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Bad bottle, opened too soon after bottling, travel shock, just plain bad wine?........that was experiance over the Easter period with my first 10 Exile. Don't know but in comparison to the 08 and 09 which I've had a few bottles of each this wine had me feeling rightly or wrongly somewhat ripped off...

Hi,
The 2010 Exile just out, has anyone bought and sampled it yet?
Also now there's the Exile cab/sav on offer as well. Is there any notes or review on that one?

My 20 year red will be Moss Wood cab.

White will be Grosett Polish Hill riesling

I have around 370 bottles on database (missing a few in storage) for my 10 year collection. Putting good bottles in 2 60bottle fridges. SA dominates my collection @ 85% with: Barossa 56%; Hobbs, Torbreck, Two Hands, Greenock Creek the most common McLaren Vale @10%; Noon Clare Valley @ 10%; Kilikanoo...

don't think it's a good idea as you've let oxygen in & that'll start the oxidation process, plus decanting will speed it up so basically your bottle will only have hours to live..... or maybe 1 day or so. also do you have access to corking machine to recork it?? one idea is to get another bottle...

Most of the Greenock Creek reds with the exception of the Cornerstone Grenache would have the legs to make it. They will be released in about 2-3 years and most you can pick up at sub $50. when most of their brew are nothing short of 17% alc, in theory they can be stored till kingdom comes.... or i...

my usual suspects..... Rusden - Sandscrub if you can afford it, otherwise Boundaries, Chookshed & Full circle are quite interesting Hentley Farm - Clos otto, Beauty, Beast... Torbreck - the lot.... Two hands - the lot.... Taste Eden Valley - Radford, Flaxman usually i'll find something special o...

I find it as long as you don't boil those poor buggers & stored in OK environment, good quality wines like yours should hold up quite well as Aussie wines of shiraz, cab sav tend to be quite robust.

Mt. Edelstone & 389 for plan B

If i'm collecting Cab Sav on 707 level, I'll go for Moss Wood, Margaret River..... flavour profile it beats 707 hands down imo..... & they can be cellared 20+ years.... my other choice is Henschke Cyril, Eden Valley Within Penfolds range, i'll get good vintages of 389 as this wine is not 'too' e...

but what about Chris Ringland's shiraz? his bottles can fetch $500+ easy in auction so how does his wine stack up against grange?

did a comparison between 04 Ch. Montrose & 03 Moss Wood CS..... everyone's glued to the Moss Wood, very nice bottle of wine

6x John Duval Eligo 06
6x Torbreck The Factor 00
1x Torbreck Descendant 00
3x Moss Wood CS 06
9x Moss Wood CS 07
1x Ch. Montrose 04
2x Greenock Creek CS 05
12x Colonial Estate Exile shiraz 08 (can't resist the low price temptation.....)

Have an awesome christmas......

william

I've penciled in 01 Willows Bonesetter, 01 Mitolo Savitar, 02 Dead Arm, 04 Hobbs Shz/Viog, 04 Branson Coach House for evening wine + cheese night... hope it'll go ahead....

I can only see Bordeaux for average person like me will only ever buy for their appreciation value like a retirement fund. But to pop one? you kidding?? Why? This is like saying I can't afford Aussie wine because Grange is $500 a bottle. Or Yattarna, or Hill of Grace etc. Plenty of decent Bdx out t...

I can only see Bordeaux for average person like me will only ever buy for their appreciation value like a retirement fund. But to pop one? you kidding??

Thanks, that's really helpful

Hi, has anyone tried the wine & want to share the experience?
Plus do you think it's worth the ~$100 bracket range?

cheers
William

with the way bordeaux marketing's heading, think we can expect to break $2k for 1st growth...

1500 with wines on both sides + 700 corridor in middle may work but can be bit risky with all the glass around, i'll say 1000 corridor will make a big difference as in turning, sliding boxes around, bending/kneeing down etc....

a good vintage Clare riesling can be very interesting..... popped a 02 Grosset Polish Hill few months back, still very youthful but starting to smoothing out very nicely & showing its secondary nodes.... or take a look at the Artisans of Barossa, in most cases, their upper-mid range of shiraz/bl...

i also use cellartracker.com for the users' TN, as i find some are quite similar to my palete so i often use that as my reference

Also been using cellar tracker for over 2 years, once setup, it's very easy to keep record & to read others tasting notes really does help me in making new purchases.

If you're oz fan, should check out pom michelvl stash, makes me want to cry just looking at it

http://www.cellartracker.com//user.asp? ... rride=4439

maybe by doing this exercise of upping the Laird price by 100% ($350-400 max imo), people may now see the Run Rig as acceptable purchase & the likes of The Factor & Descendant as 'cheap'.... In a single stroke, Dave revamped his whole range to another level.... as people may think 'so i can'...

6x 2004 Branson Coach House Rare Single Vineyard
6x 2005 Kilikanoon Reserve cab sav
2x 2005 Torbreck Descendant

3x 04 Giaconda Warner Shiraz
6x 04 Hobbs Shiraz/Viognier
6x 04 Hobbs Viognier

2x 2004 Hobbs Gregor
3x 2006 Kilikanoon Oracle
2x 2005 Moss Wood Cab Sav
1x 2006 1x 2007 Torbreck Descendant

How about Noon's Eclipse and Solaire? I believe they go the distance more than 10 years absolutely agree, not long ago popped a 03 Eclipse & it's still really really young, huge tannin & needed to sit most of the day to tone down to somewhat drinkable.... i think Eclipse can last 15+ years ...

all the best.... you'll be fine

wineries in Beijing/Shanghai..... hmm.... don't think so.... locals drink beer/rice wine/or cheap imports or rich people drink 1st growth Bordeaux/XO/Cognac by glassful....