Your Wines of the Year 2016?

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No thread on this yet as far as I can see! Thought I'd get things rolling...

Sparkling
Salon 1996
Cedric Bouchard RdJ La Haute-Lemblé 2010
Dom Perignon 2002
Cristal 2007.

White
Ramonet Montrachet 2010
Leflaive Chevalier-Montrachet 2011
Bonneau de Martray Corton-Charlemagne 1988
PYCM Mersault-Perrieres 2006
Coche-Dury Mersault-Perrieres 2006
Château Pontet-Caillou Blanc, Graves 1996

Rosé
Viña Tondonia Rosé 2000

Red
Leroy Clos de la Roche 2000
L'Ermita 2006
Soldera 1996 and 1997
Haut-Beycheville Gloria Saint-Julien 1970
Lindemans Steven Vineyard Bin 6410 1982

Sweet
Château d'Yquem 1996
Château Gilette Crème de Tête Sauternes 1983

Event of the Year - Hunter Visit inc Lake's Folly Tasting @ Lake's Folly & Muse Dinner with the Grape Mates.

Laughs of the Year - Anything involving Korean Fried Chicken Beer Robot, Fake Bruno or blurry Keyrings.

Food of the Year - Truffle Risotto @ Osteria di Russo & Russo, Dan & Eugene's Sea Urchin Pasta

Another wonderful year of friends, great wine, food, generosity, laughs and fun.

Cheers everyone, all the best for 2017. :D
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Red
1990 Wynns Black Label
(Outstanding)
Runner up red:
1983 Wolf Blass Grey Label (Such a great wine only missed top spot by a fly shit)

White:
1999 Crawford River Reserve Riesling
(Auction buy taken to an offline- For my taste, the best riesling I've ever had (Not had a great many though))
Runner up White:
2005 Hoddles Creek Chardonnay (Unbelievable considering the price)
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Hopefully the ones I am opening tonite!
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Sparkling
1990 Philipponnat Champagne Brut Clos des Goisses
Runners Up:
2002 Pierre Gimonnet Champagne Special Club
2000 Diebolt-Vallois Champagne Blanc de Blancs Fleur de Passion
2002 Camille Savès Champagne Grand Cru Brut Millésimé Bouzy
1998 Leasingham Shiraz Classic Clare Sparkling
2004 Paul Bara Champagne Grand Cru Brut Millésimé

Whites
2000 Tyrrell's Sémillon Vat 1
Runner Up:
1997 Tahbilk Marsanne

Reds
1989 Château Lafon-Rochet
Runners Up:
2002 Kalleske Grenache Old Vines
1994 St Hugo Cabernet Sauvignon
1995 Houghton Cabernet Sauvignon Jack Mann
2007 Tenuta San Guido Bolgheri Sassicaia Sassicaia
2009 Boekenhoutskloof Cabernet
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Red: 2010 E.guigal chateau d'Ampuis
2015 clonakilla S.V

White: 1975 Weingut zehnthof theo luckert senheimer lay auslese riesling
2002 leo buring leopold
Sitting on a penfolds bin 15a tonight.
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I am conflicted writing this as I have taken the decision to stop buying Penfolds in the last 12 months but my wine of the year was a well decanted 2010 St Henri.... Fair to say it DID live up to the hype...

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WOTY by daylight to whatever was second ...


'76 Wynns Black Label Cabernet
Tasted at Scopri at an off-line earlier this year. Wine courtesy of Con J amongst a great cabernet lineup on the night.
Yeah, yeah, I know, I'm a rusted on Coonawarra-phile, hoopla about JW winner blah blah, but this bottle was in absolutely pristine condition, just an absolute pleasure to drink and savour.
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mjs wrote:WOTY by daylight to whatever was second ...


'76 Wynns Black Label Cabernet
Tasted at Scopri at an off-line earlier this year. Wine courtesy of Con J amongst a great cabernet lineup on the night.
Yeah, yeah, I know, I'm a rusted on Coonawarra-phile, hoopla about JW winner blah blah, but this bottle was in absolutely pristine condition, just an absolute pleasure to drink and savour.


I've had many good bottles of this wine and completely agree with your assessment

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mjs wrote:WOTY by daylight to whatever was second ...


'76 Wynns Black Label Cabernet
Tasted at Scopri at an off-line earlier this year. Wine courtesy of Con J amongst a great cabernet lineup on the night.
Yeah, yeah, I know, I'm a rusted on Coonawarra-phile, hoopla about JW winner blah blah, but this bottle was in absolutely pristine condition, just an absolute pleasure to drink and savour.


Even after six Burgundy offlines this was the first wine that came to mind when I saw this thread.
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Red

1990 Henschke Mt Edelstone
1971 Penfolds Bin 389
2000 Chateau Lafite
1971 Wynns Black Label
1986 Henschke Mt Edelstone

Champagne

1959 Henriot Enchanteleurs (magnum)
1996 Taittinger Comtes BdB
1988 Henriot Enchanteleurs (magnum)
1995 Dom Perignon Oenotheque
1995 Hiedseick Blanc des Millenaires

White

1990 Trimbach Clos St Hune
2001 Trimbach CFE
2002 Grosset Polish Hill
1994 LEAS Chardonnay
1996 Tyrrells Vat 1

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Sparkling
Primo Estate Joseph
2000 House of Arras EJ Carr Late Disgorged

White

2007 LEAS Chardonnay

Red

1975 Bowen Estate Claret
1988 Wynns John Riddoch
2002 Trevor Jones wild witch dry grown reserve shiraz. In magnum

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Red
Chateau Ducru Beaucaillou 1985 St Julien
Domaine du Pegau Chateauneuf-du-pape 2011

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Red - Tie between 1983 Wolf Blass Grey Label Shiraz and 1991 Wynns Centenary Shiraz Cabernet. Too hard to split them. Honorable mentions for 2004 Greenock Creek Cornerstone Grenache, 2004 Burge Family Draycott Shiraz, 1994 Wendouree Shiraz, 2008 Marius End Play, 1997 La Chapelle Hermaitage and 1994 Henschke Mt Edelstone Shiraz.

White - 1999 Crawford River Reserve Riesling. Daylight second. Honorable mentions for 2007 Lake's Folly Chardonnay and 2009 Paringa Estate Estate Chardonnay.

Let's hope 2017 tops this bunch.

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ticklenow1 wrote:Red - Tie between 1983 Wolf Blass Grey Label Shiraz and 1991 Wynns Centenary Shiraz Cabernet. Too hard to split them. Honorable mentions for 2004 Greenock Creek Cornerstone Grenache, 2004 Burge Family Draycott Shiraz, 1994 Wendouree Shiraz, 2008 Marius End Play, 1997 La Chapelle Hermaitage and 1994 Henschke Mt Edelstone Shiraz.

White - 1999 Crawford River Reserve Riesling. Daylight second. Honorable mentions for 2007 Lake's Folly Chardonnay and 2009 Paringa Estate Estate Chardonnay.

Let's hope 2017 tops this bunch.

Cheers
Ian


I had a 94 mount ed friday night and thought it was pretty ordinary. Was from henschke aswel direct aged vintage release.
Im not really enjoying the older wines ive found. Like some fruit to be present. Quite tanic aswel.
Do you have any notes ian ?

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Hunter wrote:
ticklenow1 wrote:Red - Tie between 1983 Wolf Blass Grey Label Shiraz and 1991 Wynns Centenary Shiraz Cabernet. Too hard to split them. Honorable mentions for 2004 Greenock Creek Cornerstone Grenache, 2004 Burge Family Draycott Shiraz, 1994 Wendouree Shiraz, 2008 Marius End Play, 1997 La Chapelle Hermaitage and 1994 Henschke Mt Edelstone Shiraz.

White - 1999 Crawford River Reserve Riesling. Daylight second. Honorable mentions for 2007 Lake's Folly Chardonnay and 2009 Paringa Estate Estate Chardonnay.

Let's hope 2017 tops this bunch.

Cheers
Ian


I had a 94 mount ed friday night and thought it was pretty ordinary. Was from henschke aswel direct aged vintage release.
Im not really enjoying the older wines ive found. Like some fruit to be present. Quite tanic aswel.
Do you have any notes ian ?

94 mt ed used to be in a great headspace 10 years ago
i seem to recall some bottle variation ? dms or brett for some bottles
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been a great year but if I had to pick one
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2016 was a pretty good year for me and had the privilege to taste some exceptional wine thanks to the generosity some of my fellow winos.

List below is in no particular order but the Soldera is the wine that really stands out.

1996 Salon (had this twice).
1996 Dom Perignon Oenotheque.
MV Krug Rose (the only rose for the year that I can remember).

2009 Gianfranco – Soldera Brunello.
2004 Giacomo Conterno – Monfortino.
2001 Bruno Giacosa – Rabaja Barbaresco Riserva.
1982 Cheval Blanc.
1991 Guigal – La Landonne.
2001 Armand Rousseau – Clos de Beze.
1993 Comte De Vogue – Bonnes Mares.

1976 d’Yquem.

For the few Aussie’s that stood out were.

1976 & 1986 Wynns – Cabernet.
1985 Moss Wood.
1990 Mount Mary – Quintet.

Cheers Con.

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Red Wne: Chateau Gruaud Larose '66. Had to stand and clap for its longevity, balance and drinkability. Simply gorgeous. The '86 Grange and '96 Wendouree Cab Malbec had a decent, enjoyable slugfest at the Adelaide Offline too.

White Wine: Nothing really wowed me (note to self: drink better white wine in '17) but a Laurent Tribut Chablis Montmains '12 was pretty smart as I recall.

Sparkling: A Renardat Fache sparkling "pink" was something new and enjoyable for '16.

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Con J wrote:2016 was a pretty good year for me and had the privilege to taste some exceptional wine thanks to the generosity some of my fellow winos.

List below is in no particular order but the Soldera is the wine that really stands out.

1996 Salon (had this twice).
1996 Dom Perignon Oenotheque.
MV Krug Rose (the only rose for the year that I can remember).

2009 Gianfranco – Soldera Brunello.
2004 Giacomo Conterno – Monfortino.
2001 Bruno Giacosa – Rabaja Barbaresco Riserva.
1982 Cheval Blanc.
1991 Guigal – La Landonne.
2001 Armand Rousseau – Clos de Beze.
1993 Comte De Vogue – Bonnes Mares.

1976 d’Yquem.

For the few Aussie’s that stood out were.

1976 & 1986 Wynns – Cabernet.
1985 Moss Wood.
1990 Mount Mary – Quintet.

Cheers Con.


How good is the Rousseau 2001 Beze!
And the Vogue 93 bones marres last year was stunning
This year we have a Vogue 93 Musigny to taste
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michel wrote:
Con J wrote:2016 was a pretty good year for me and had the privilege to taste some exceptional wine thanks to the generosity some of my fellow winos.

List below is in no particular order but the Soldera is the wine that really stands out.

1996 Salon (had this twice).
1996 Dom Perignon Oenotheque.
MV Krug Rose (the only rose for the year that I can remember).

2009 Gianfranco – Soldera Brunello.
2004 Giacomo Conterno – Monfortino.
2001 Bruno Giacosa – Rabaja Barbaresco Riserva.
1982 Cheval Blanc.
1991 Guigal – La Landonne.
2001 Armand Rousseau – Clos de Beze.
1993 Comte De Vogue – Bonnes Mares.

1976 d’Yquem.

For the few Aussie’s that stood out were.

1976 & 1986 Wynns – Cabernet.
1985 Moss Wood.
1990 Mount Mary – Quintet.

Cheers Con.


How good is the Rousseau 2001 Beze!
And the Vogue 93 bones marres last year was stunning
This year we have a Vogue 93 Musigny to taste
Good list!


Rousseau’s are always great and the 01’s are drinking well.
Had the 03 Clos st Jaques and 03 Clos de la Roch for Christmas with my wine group which were outstanding for a hot vintage.

The 93 Vogue Musigny should be fantastic. Please report how it goes when you open it.

Cheers Con.

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Con J wrote:
michel wrote:
Con J wrote:2016 was a pretty good year for me and had the privilege to taste some exceptional wine thanks to the generosity some of my fellow winos.

List below is in no particular order but the Soldera is the wine that really stands out.

1996 Salon (had this twice).
1996 Dom Perignon Oenotheque.
MV Krug Rose (the only rose for the year that I can remember).

2009 Gianfranco – Soldera Brunello.
2004 Giacomo Conterno – Monfortino.
2001 Bruno Giacosa – Rabaja Barbaresco Riserva.
1982 Cheval Blanc.
1991 Guigal – La Landonne.
2001 Armand Rousseau – Clos de Beze.
1993 Comte De Vogue – Bonnes Mares.

1976 d’Yquem.

For the few Aussie’s that stood out were.

1976 & 1986 Wynns – Cabernet.
1985 Moss Wood.
1990 Mount Mary – Quintet.

Cheers Con.


How good is the Rousseau 2001 Beze!
And the Vogue 93 bones marres last year was stunning
This year we have a Vogue 93 Musigny to taste
Good list!


Rousseau’s are always great and the 01’s are drinking well.
Had the 03 Clos st Jaques and 03 Clos de la Roch for Christmas with my wine group which were outstanding for a hot vintage.

The 93 Vogue Musigny should be fantastic. Please report how it goes when you open it.

Cheers Con.


Interestingly the 03s look better than what I ever thought they could
AND
the 2009s also look very good
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Best white was a 1999 Coche-Dury Corton Charlemagne from my cellar, consumed with a winemaker friend who produced a bottle of 2006 DRC Romanee St Vivant. It was my last bottle of 1999 Coche CC and was considerably more developed than the penultimate bottle from 2 years before but still in great condition for chardonnay with this bottle age. Honourable mentions to a 2011 Coche-Dury Meursault Genevrieres and a 2012 Roulot Meursault Clos des Boucheres in restaurants during a trip to France in October.

Consistent with the observations above about the excellence of Rousseau, best red was a 2012 Rousseau Chambertin at the Burgundy Lounge in Lyon on the trip mentioned above. It hadn't closed down at all and was extraordinary. Price was friendly too. For reds for the rest of the year, daylight second to this wine.

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mjs wrote:WOTY by daylight to whatever was second ...


'76 Wynns Black Label Cabernet
Tasted at Scopri at an off-line earlier this year. Wine courtesy of Con J amongst a great cabernet lineup on the night.
Yeah, yeah, I know, I'm a rusted on Coonawarra-phile, hoopla about JW winner blah blah, but this bottle was in absolutely pristine condition, just an absolute pleasure to drink and savour.



Had this only a month ago, cracker of a wine, absolutely loved it, had a 66 mouton on the same night, it didnt look out of place.

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Con J wrote:2016 was a pretty good year for me and had the privilege to taste some exceptional wine thanks to the generosity some of my fellow winos.

List below is in no particular order but the Soldera is the wine that really stands out.

1996 Salon (had this twice).
1996 Dom Perignon Oenotheque.
MV Krug Rose (the only rose for the year that I can remember).

2009 Gianfranco – Soldera Brunello.
2004 Giacomo Conterno – Monfortino.
2001 Bruno Giacosa – Rabaja Barbaresco Riserva.
1982 Cheval Blanc.
1991 Guigal – La Landonne.
2001 Armand Rousseau – Clos de Beze.
1993 Comte De Vogue – Bonnes Mares.

1976 d’Yquem.

For the few Aussie’s that stood out were.

1976 & 1986 Wynns – Cabernet.
1985 Moss Wood.
1990 Mount Mary – Quintet.

Cheers Con.


Hi Con, I recognise quite a few of these wines (!) and a lot of the same wines are in my wines of year list as well. Here is my list...

Not in any order really, all were spectacular. I have to agree with Con about the 2009 Soldera Case Basse, an amazing wine that really blew me away...

1982 Ch. Cheval Blanc
1998 Ch. Petrus
1998 Ch. Trotanoy
2005 J. L. Chave Hermitage
2007 C. Roumier CM Les Fuees
2001 A. Rousseau Clos des Beze
2002 R. Engel Echezeaux
1990 Valdicava BdM Riserva
2009 Soldera Case Basse BdM
2001 B. Giacosa Barbaresco Rabaja Riserva
2004 G. Conterno Monfortino
1996 Salon Blanc des Blancs
1998 Philipponnat Clos De Goisses
1976 Ch. Yquem

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Had a look through my notes. My best of the best for 2016 were:

Best Shiraz - 1994 Best's Thomson Family
Best Pinot Noir - 2003 Rousseau Clos de La Roche Grand Cru
Best Nebbiolo - 2001 Gaja Barbaresco
Best Cabernet - 1976 Wynns Black Label
Best Cabernet Merlot - 1995 Cullen (Diana Madeline)
Best Sparkling Shiraz - 1994 Seppelt Show Sparkling
Best Champagne - 1995 Heidsieck Blanc des Millenaires
Best Port - 1980 Warre's VP

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My memorable wine highlights for 2016:

Sparkling:
Deviation Road - Loftia 2013
Mordrelle - Adelaide Hills Sparkling 2011

White:
Lobethal Road - Roussanne 2015
Murray Street Vineyards - Viognier Marsanne 2010
Gestalt Wines - Lenswood Gewürztraminer 2015
Petaluma - (Hanlin Hill) Riesling 1993

Red:
Seppelt - Great Western Shiraz 1996
Wendouree - Cabernet Sauvignon Malbec 1996
Rockford - SVS Moorooroo Shiraz 1996
Kalleske - Johan Georg Shiraz 2006
Hentley Farm - The Quintessential Shiraz Cabernet sauvignon 2014
Tapanappa - Whalebone Cabernet Sauvignon Shiraz 2012
Classic McLaren - La Testa Cabernet Sauvignon 2000
Sevenhill - Inigo Barbera 2013
Springs Hill - Blewitt Springs Merlot 2009
McLaren Vale Orchards - Old Vine Cabernet Sauvignon 2013

Sweet:
Grosset - Noble Riesling 2011
d'Arenberg - Noble Mud Pie Viognier Roussanne 2010
Gestalt Wines - Kenton Valley Botrytis Viognier 2014

Fortified:
Patritti - Rare Old Apera
Ballycroft - Fortified Mataro 2011

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Red
1986 Penfolds Grange (offline)
1998 Balnaves Cabernet Sauvignon
1996 Seppelt Great Western Shiraz (offline)
1996 Wendouree Cabernet Sauvignon Malbec (offline)
1996 Rockford SVS Moorooroo Shiraz (offline)
2004 Knappstein Enterprise Cabernet Sauvignon
2005 Mitchell McNicol Shiraz
2008 Penfolds Bin 28 Kalimna Shiraz
2008 Penfolds Bin 128 Shiraz
2010 Yalumba Signature
2013 Yangarra Estate Old Vine Grenache

White
2006 Grosset PH (offline)
2007 The Lane Vineyard Beginning Chardonnay
2015 Grosset Sémillon Sauvignon Blanc

Sparkling
Braydun Hill 'Crimson Silk' Sparkling Shiraz
(Went thru 3 of these over xmas break. Great VFM)

Quaff of the year
2014 Clonakilla Shiraz Hilltops
2013 balnaves ‘The blend’

Out and out WOTY was a split decision between the Rockford and The Sepplet GWS.
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Sparkling: Taittinger Comtes 2004
White: Crawford Reserve Riesling 1999 that Rens mentioned above or the sister Riesling that went with it.
Red: Tie between the 2012 Rockford Basket Press and the 2012 Rockford Rifle Range
Sticky: Morris Rare Tokay
Honourable mentions:
Arras Blanc de Blanc 2006
Great Squid Ink 2010
Classic Mclaren La Testa Grenache 2001
Wendouree Shiraz 2005
Seaview Cabernet Sauvignon 1980
Penfolds RWT 1997
Cullen Diana Madeline 2001
FU Shiraz 2008
Henschke Euphonium 2002
Marius End Play 2008
Cape d'Estaing Cabernet Sauvignon 2001
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Hunter wrote:
ticklenow1 wrote:Red - Tie between 1983 Wolf Blass Grey Label Shiraz and 1991 Wynns Centenary Shiraz Cabernet. Too hard to split them. Honorable mentions for 2004 Greenock Creek Cornerstone Grenache, 2004 Burge Family Draycott Shiraz, 1994 Wendouree Shiraz, 2008 Marius End Play, 1997 La Chapelle Hermaitage and 1994 Henschke Mt Edelstone Shiraz.

White - 1999 Crawford River Reserve Riesling. Daylight second. Honorable mentions for 2007 Lake's Folly Chardonnay and 2009 Paringa Estate Estate Chardonnay.

Let's hope 2017 tops this bunch.

Cheers
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I had a 94 mount ed friday night and thought it was pretty ordinary. Was from henschke aswel direct aged vintage release.
Im not really enjoying the older wines ive found. Like some fruit to be present. Quite tanic aswel.
Do you have any notes ian ?


Sorry, didn't take notes. We drank it as a birth year wine for my oldest boy on his Birthday. Quite a stunning wine. I like the aged characters as the fruit fades, but each to their own. This bottle had been perfectly cellared which probably helped. Thanks Jamie!!

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I still have 12 x Henschke Mt Edelstone 1994. No issues with drinking over the next 10 years + considering they were bought from cellar door and stored in climate controlled conditions since. I've had magical experiences with Mt Edelstone back to the early sixties vintages and I have no doubt there are going to be many, many more similar experiences especially considering the climate controlled cellaring.

Now, 1994 was the oddest vintage. Backward and elemental for 10 - 15 years, it then blossomed, as Michel indicated, a decade or so ago.

I'm not sure what the issue with Hunter's bottle is but brett and DMS have been alluded to by some commentators; and Henschke's own storage came into question over the issues with a % of the 98 release. I don't see the brett in 94 frankly, it seems to me to be typical shiraz in evolution with characteristics not dissimilar to the Northern Rhone. DMS was more a Cyril issue in 94 and I could sort of see it a bit, maybe, in 96 Mt Ed.

Anyways, 2 x six packs of 1994 Henschke Mt Edelstone left, unopened, climate controlled since release, I'll leave them go for long term enjoyment and with strict instructions never to be flogged off at auction if I pass. The secondary market is a joke in Australia, near parasitical, failing to reward great wines and great cellaring.
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