Which vintage is the largest in your cellar?

Andrew Jordan · Post by **Andrew Jordan** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:23 pm

Was in the cellar on the weekend, and following on from Brian's Poll from last week, wondered which vintage was the most popular in my cellar. 90% of the wine in my cellar is Australian and I have only been buying wine seriously for about 7 years, so the below results show which Australian vintage takes up the most room in my cellar:

1996 or older - 6%
1997 - 2%
1998 - 17%
1999 - 13%
2000 - 8%
2001 - 12%
2002 - 25%
2003 - 13%
2004 - 4%

Clearly 2002 has been a popular year in my purchasing habits with a good vintage in SA, plus the addition of many new boutique wineries popping up all over the place (i.e. Kalleske, Schubert, Glaymond, etc). Although the 2004 vintage only makes up 4% of my collection right now, I think this will equal, or even better the 2002 purchases :shock:

. I had better start saving!!

How does your cellar compared??

AJ

Ratcatcher · Post by **Ratcatcher** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:40 pm

I haven't got proper records but off the top of my head it's 98.

I'd say a rough guess would be:

Pre 96: 15% (I've still got a few 93 and 94 Penfolds and Henschkes)
1996 : 15%
1997 : 2% I avoided these like the plague
1998 : 30%
1999 : 15% ( I had spare cash in 2000 - 2002 so I bought a few 98 and 99's - the 99's are mainly Coonawarra and Victorian)
2000 : 2%
2001 : 5%
2002 : 13% (I'll probably try and get a few more of these)
2003/2004 : 3% (will obviously increase)

Lincoln · Post by **Lincoln** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:03 pm

2001 wins by a few bottles.

1996 or older - 17%
1997 - 4%
1998 - 10%
1999 - 19%
2000 - 12%
2001 - 19%
2002 - 15%
2003 - 3%
2004 - 0%

TORB · Post by **TORB** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:17 pm

1996 or older - 19%
1997 - 3%
1998 - 21%
1999 - 11%
2000 - 7%
2001 - 16%
2002 - 18%
2003 - 3%
2004 - 0%
N/V - 2%

Red Bigot · Post by **Red Bigot** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:19 pm

My current stocks are as follows (with a few pre-90 as well) a few more 2002's yet to buy no doubt, being quite wary of 2003, although as ever, the gems are there to be found.

Vintage - PC (Now)
nv - 1.7%
2004 - 1.1%
2003 - 4.5%
2002 - 16.9%
2001 - 15.4%
2000 - 8.9%
1999 - 10.4%
1998 - 21.8%
1997 - 3.9%
1996 - 8.1%
1995 - 2.4%
1994 - 2.5%
1993 - 0.5%
1992 - 0.4%
1991 - 1.2%
1990 - 0.3%

Another perspective (had to write a new query in the trusty RB Cellar Master), percentages of all wine bought (since 1988) by vintage, not current stock as above:
Vintage - PC (Bought)
nv - 1.4%
2004 - 0.5%
2003 - 2.3%
2002 - 8.6%
2001 - 8.1%
2000 - 5.1%
1999 - 7.0%
1998 - 18.3%
1997 - 8.2%
1996 - 11.4%
1995 - 4.3%
1994 - 6.4%
1993 - 2.6%
1992 - 3.4%
1991 - 4.6%
1990 - 4.7%
1989 - 0.5%
1988 - 1.5%

camw · Post by **camw** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:19 pm

2004 (10.74%)
2003 (34.90%)
2002 (25.50%)
2001 (16.78%)
2000 (5.37%)
1999 (0.67%)
1998 (1.34%)
1993 (0.67%)
1992 (0.67%)
1991 (0.67%)
1983 (0.67%)
1981 (0.67%)
N.V. (1.34%)

Only been collecting for a year now, so a heavy bias towards more recent vintages which I imagine will even out over time.

Nayan · Post by **Nayan** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:26 pm

1996 and older 16.25%
1997 6.25%
1998 5%
1999 8.75%
2000 10%
2001 20%
2002 33.75%

Ah, the wonders of CellarTracker.

While I was at it, I looked at my breakdown by variety and was surprised to see my cellar is dominated by Shiraz... despite my constant claims as to not really liking the variety!!

Christo · Post by **Christo** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:08 pm

interesting post aj, doing some quick math i've deduced that i absolutely went stupid on 2002 wines :shock:

... oh well i'll have to buy more 04 & 05's!!! :shock:

christo

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:49 pm

Christo there will be plenty of great SA 04s and alot of 05 from Vic. Alot of areas there had there best ever vintage it looks like even at this early stage.

GrahamB · Post by **GrahamB** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 6:23 pm

97 and earlier 1.5%
98 - 12.25%
99 - 7.4%
00 - 9.3%
01 - 20%
02 - 24.1%
03 - 14.8%
04 - 7%

More importantly is:

Cabernet & cab blends 30.1%
Shiraz & shiraz blends 56%
Other red varieties 10.2%

This means I only have 3.7% whites which are mainly Riesling and Semillon. I did discover 1 chardonnay which someone must have left here.

Graham

Christo · Post by **Christo** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 6:25 pm

Grreaaaaaatt! 02 was my marrige year, Jan 04 1st born, Nov 05 2nd born. My credit cards are about to be abused. :twisted:

c

Red Bigot · Post by **Red Bigot** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 6:41 pm

GrahamB wrote:This means I only have 3.7% whites which are mainly Riesling and Semillon. I did discover 1 chardonnay which someone must have left here.

Graham

A bit over-weight on whites then? :?:

You need to get it down below 1% to be a real red bigot. :wink:

TORB · Post by **TORB** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:26 pm

Red Bigot wrote:A bit over-weight on whites then?

You need to get it down below 1% to be a real red bigot.

Yep! and 99% of that 1% has to be Frog Bubbles or stickies.

Brian,

It is frightening to see how close the percentages are between our two cellars. It looks like all those split purchases really do influnce the stock count.

Craig(NZ) · Post by **Craig(NZ)** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:31 pm

The 1998s are mainly kiwis, I prefered 96 as a vintage in Aussie.

2004 9%
2003 4%
2002 16%
2001 8%
2000 9%
1999 3%
1998 18%
1997 3%
1996 9%
1995 9%
1994 11%
1993 1%
1992 1%

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:44 pm

Craig(NZ) wrote:The 1998s are mainly kiwis, I prefered 96 as a vintage in Aussie.

2004 9%
2003 4%
2002 16%
2001 8%
2000 9%
1999 3%
1998 18%
1997 3%
1996 9%
1995 9%
1994 11%
1993 1%
1992 1%

I was waiting for the 96 is better than 98 rubbish to start again :roll:

action2096 · Post by **action2096** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:22 pm

2003 16%
2002 29%
2001 18%
2000 12%
1999 14%
1998 7%
1996 2%
1995 1%
1994 1%

Plenty of people seem to have a big stash of 02's in the cellar. My cellar is still small and i'm looking to add more. Anyone reccommend any 02's in the $30-50 range that are still available that may be worth a look ????

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:58 pm

action2096 wrote: Anyone reccommend any 02's in the $30-50 range that are still available that may be worth a look ????

great question... perhaps a new thread "must haves of 2002"?!
c

Jordan · Post by **Jordan** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:21 pm

action2096 wrote:Plenty of people seem to have a big stash of 02's in the cellar. My cellar is still small and i'm looking to add more. Anyone reccommend any 02's in the $30-50 range that are still available that may be worth a look ????

33% of my wines are 2002.

A few of my 2002 faves:

Penfolds Bin 389 Cabernet/Shiraz - $35
Petaluma Adelaide Hills Shiraz Viognier - $40
Charles Melton Shiraz - $40
Charles Melton Nine Popes - $40
Wirra Wirra RSW - $45
Seppelts St. Peters - $50

Adair · Post by **Adair** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:32 pm

1998 but the 2002 Clare Rieslings nearly pipped the 1998s.

Adair

platinum · Post by **platinum** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 12:10 am

Without counting to the bottle it would be close between 98 and 02 though I voted 98 simply due to more of them being top notch compared to a wide level of 02s.

wizz unlogged · Post by **wizz unlogged** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:43 am

Lincoln wrote:2001 wins by a few bottles.

1996 or older - 17%
1997 - 4%
1998 - 10%
1999 - 19%
2000 - 12%
2001 - 19%
2002 - 15%
2003 - 3%
2004 - 0%

I'm curious Linc - if this were two coumns, one for Aussie gear and one for imports, how does the splitup look? I'm wondering whart all the 01's are, WA Cabs, Burgs?

AB

Lincoln · Post by **Lincoln** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:08 am

1996 or older - 17% (all oz)
1997 - 4% (98% oz, 2% imports)
1998 - 10% (91% oz, 9% imports)
1999 - 19% (87% oz, 13% imports)
2000 - 12% (72% oz, 28% imports)
2001 - 19% (60% oz, 40% imports)
2002 - 15% (63% oz, 37% imports)
2003 - 3% (all oz)
2004 - 0%

Craig(NZ) · Post by **Craig(NZ)** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:12 am

I prefered 96 as a vintage in Aussie.

I was waiting for the 96 is better than 98 rubbish to start again

Dear Guest

Perhaps look into the meaning of the words "I prefered"

When you really get to the bottom of that definition you will realise that the author alone is the most qualified person to complete this sentance by the very virtue of its purpose.

However as I have said before, at least I have the guts to put my name next to my opinion.

C.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:26 pm

I suggest you either missed out on most 98s and therefore justifying your losses or have tried some average wines and are using those as your rating for the vintage? Which 98s didnt you like and why? It seems to me month after month you are trying to make the same point again and again. Are you trying to convince everyone else or yourself?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:27 pm

Oh and i am happy to say i like alot of wines from 96,98,2002

Andrew Jordan · Post by **Andrew Jordan** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:00 pm

Interesting results. Looks like it is a close race between 1998 and 2002 for the most popular vintage in Auswine Forum members cellars. Hopefully these 2 vintages will age wonderfully and we will have plenty of gems in the cellar in 2 - 6 years time.

Thanks for everybody's feedback and votes on the poll.

AJ

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:12 am

AJ,

I'm sure you have a rough idea of mine, but thought I would post them anyway ..

96 and older 20%
97 - 1%
98 - 19%
99 - 14%
00 - 2%
01 - 11%
02 - 18%
03 - 9%
04 - 2%
NV - 4%

Cheers

Mike

Mike Hawkins · Post by **Mike Hawkins** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:23 am

Twas me....

Ian S · Post by **Ian S** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 5:52 am

Anonymous wrote:I suggest you either missed out on most 98s and therefore justifying your losses or have tried some average wines and are using those as your rating for the vintage? Which 98s didnt you like and why? It seems to me month after month you are trying to make the same point again and again. Are you trying to convince everyone else or yourself?

Guest
I share your view that 98 seems to be played down too much (I don't have enough experience with 96 to comment) - however taking anonymous pot shots at members does you no credit. I value Craig's input to this forum - I might value your opinion as well if you put your name to them. Please sign-up and post and I'm sure we'll have a pleasant discussion on the subject.
regards
Ian

peterk · Post by **peterk** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:21 am

Vintage Percentage
2003 1.3%
2002 3.5%
2001 2.9%
2000 7.5%
1999 7.9%
1998 30.0%
1997 12.2%
1996 14.1%
1995 3.1%
1994 3.8%
1993 1.7%
1992 1.1%
1991 1.2%
1990 1.3%
1989 0.4%
1988 0.4%
1987 0.4%
1986 0.7%
1985 1.0%
1984 0.4%
1983 0.4%
1982 0.3%
1981 0.5%
1980 0.5%
1979 0.3%
1978 0.4%
1977 0.2%
1976 0.1%
1975 0.1%
1974 0.1%
1973 0.1%
1972 0.1%
1965 0.1%
1954 0.1%
1951 0.1%
1945 0.1%
NV 1.6%
Well thanks to the joys of Brians Cellar Master it looks like 98 is the year in my cellar.

Cheers
Peterk

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