Hi all,
Yesterday's Epicure had an interesting article by Jeni Port on typicity.
In it she wrote "when a Yarra Valley winemaker makes a pinot noir, labelled as "reserve" no less, that is heavy in alcohol and tastes more like a chocolately merlot than a pinot, perhaps he (and it is a he in this instance) needs to look at the regional template - the regional typicity - for guidance. "
Any guesses at what wine and winemaker she may be referring to?
Yering Station Reserve Pinot Noir?
Coldstream Hills Reserve?
I thought it was similar to the way Robert Parker Jnr subtely sledged Jancis - which of course has been the beginning of World War III.
Cheers
Andy
Subtle Digs
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Gary W
Re: Subtle Digs
The winemaker should be allowed to make any style of wine that he/she wants. Ultimately the market will decide what they want to drink - not Jenni Port. It would be dull if everyone made the same style of pinot. It would not be the 02 CH Reserve though. That is 13% and has sappy pinot characters even though it is quite full bodied for the varietal.
GW
GW
Re: Subtle Digs
Gary W wrote:The winemaker should be allowed to make any style of wine that he/she wants. Ultimately the market will decide what they want to drink - not Jenni Port. It would be dull if everyone made the same style of pinot. It would not be the 02 CH Reserve though. That is 13% and has sappy pinot characters even though it is quite full bodied for the varietal.
GW
Agreed, although I think all pinot producers should strive to emulate the desirable Hunter style.
And gladys save a place for me
On your grapevine
Till i get my own tv show
On your grapevine
Till i get my own tv show
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Gary W
Re: Subtle Digs
brad wrote:
Agreed, although I think all pinot producers should strive to emulate the desirable Hunter style.
I can but only most humbly agree.
GW
Subtle? 
This is from the newest edition of Bordeaux (RP defending garage wines from St.-Emilion':
'The final attack on garage wines, and the most sinister, is the charge made by Jancis Robinson (parroting the same lines I have heard again and again in Bordeaux) that these wines "fail to express their place of origin." In winedom, this is akin to being accused of guilt by the Spanish Inquisition...'
This is from the newest edition of Bordeaux (RP defending garage wines from St.-Emilion':
'The final attack on garage wines, and the most sinister, is the charge made by Jancis Robinson (parroting the same lines I have heard again and again in Bordeaux) that these wines "fail to express their place of origin." In winedom, this is akin to being accused of guilt by the Spanish Inquisition...'
I was more talking about when Parker began a thread (i.e. was not responding to others), with:
"Dark plum/purple, this young wine possesses flawed aromas,overripe cherries,plums,black currants,and prunes interwoven with hints of balsamic and potent volatile acidity.The flawed/defective aromatics are followed by a ponderous,excessively concentrated and alcoholic wine that has cloying amounts of residual sugar,and seemingly no acidity. Heavy,unctuously textured flavors add to the freakish nature of this wine that is the antithesis of classic Bordeaux.Clearly a failure."
This could have been the 6-month old tasting notes for....Choose your poison....1947 Cheval Blanc,1947 Lafleur,1947 Petrus,1947 L'Evangile,1961 Petrus,1961 Latour a Pomerol,or possibly 1926 Haut Brion or 1929 La Mission Haut Brion. "
...........and the saga that followed - see TORB's site for the link.
Still does anyone want to have a guess at what Reserve pinot from the Yarra Valley Jeni Port was talking about?
Cheers
"Dark plum/purple, this young wine possesses flawed aromas,overripe cherries,plums,black currants,and prunes interwoven with hints of balsamic and potent volatile acidity.The flawed/defective aromatics are followed by a ponderous,excessively concentrated and alcoholic wine that has cloying amounts of residual sugar,and seemingly no acidity. Heavy,unctuously textured flavors add to the freakish nature of this wine that is the antithesis of classic Bordeaux.Clearly a failure."
This could have been the 6-month old tasting notes for....Choose your poison....1947 Cheval Blanc,1947 Lafleur,1947 Petrus,1947 L'Evangile,1961 Petrus,1961 Latour a Pomerol,or possibly 1926 Haut Brion or 1929 La Mission Haut Brion. "
...........and the saga that followed - see TORB's site for the link.
Still does anyone want to have a guess at what Reserve pinot from the Yarra Valley Jeni Port was talking about?
Cheers
