Wines with pedigree
Wines with pedigree
I am trying to compile a list of Australian wines that have a 40 year plus run of consecutive vintages.
Grange is a gimme, St Henri kicked off in 56, with an unbroken run of vintages from 66. 389 almost qualifies with continuous production from 75, same with the Bin 28. I suppose we should take the fine people form Seppeltfield at their word to and assume their is 100 or so years of Para to look forward to as well.
No doubt there are others. Any help?
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Yes forgot Tahbilk. Marsanne and Cab meet the criteria...Shiraz has only missed one vintage in 1983 so close enough for me.
Grange is a gimme, St Henri kicked off in 56, with an unbroken run of vintages from 66. 389 almost qualifies with continuous production from 75, same with the Bin 28. I suppose we should take the fine people form Seppeltfield at their word to and assume their is 100 or so years of Para to look forward to as well.
No doubt there are others. Any help?
Edit:
Yes forgot Tahbilk. Marsanne and Cab meet the criteria...Shiraz has only missed one vintage in 1983 so close enough for me.
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I suspect Kay Brothers would have that run at least with a shiraz.
Tahbilk would be worth checking. I suspect some of the Rutherglen makers would have had annual fortifieds releases (at least from solera) over that time period.
Tahbilk would be worth checking. I suspect some of the Rutherglen makers would have had annual fortifieds releases (at least from solera) over that time period.
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Just a few quick thoughts:
Wynns BL
Mildara Cab
?Houghtons White Burg
I'm sure there would be a few Rutherglen reds that have chalked up 40- ?Stanton & Killeen, Chambers, Campbells, Bullers
The Mount Pleasant portfolio
?Lakes Folly
Wendouree
Leasingham
Wynns BL
Mildara Cab
?Houghtons White Burg
I'm sure there would be a few Rutherglen reds that have chalked up 40- ?Stanton & Killeen, Chambers, Campbells, Bullers
The Mount Pleasant portfolio
?Lakes Folly
Wendouree
Leasingham
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Possibly Tyrrells.
Vat 9 started in 1961
Vat 1 in 1963
Vat 47 in 1971 - so nearly 40 years
Maybe some Bests Great Western wines.
Vat 9 started in 1961
Vat 1 in 1963
Vat 47 in 1971 - so nearly 40 years
Maybe some Bests Great Western wines.
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Seppelt will have Great Western wines with that pedigree - they have empty bottle of Chalambar in the cellar door that go back that far. And theres the sparkling shiraz of course.
Leo Buring Rieslings go back along way, although i don't think the DW bin series are consecutive all the way back 40 years.
Metala will go back that far.
Lots of Ruthergeln dry reds - Doesn't Baileys Bundarra hermitage go back to the 50s?
Hey this is post no 1000.
Leo Buring Rieslings go back along way, although i don't think the DW bin series are consecutive all the way back 40 years.
Metala will go back that far.
Lots of Ruthergeln dry reds - Doesn't Baileys Bundarra hermitage go back to the 50s?
Hey this is post no 1000.
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Wizz wrote:Seppelt will have Great Western wines with that pedigree - they have empty bottle of Chalambar in the cellar door that go back that far. And theres the sparkling shiraz of course.
Leo Buring Rieslings go back along way, although i don't think the DW bin series are consecutive all the way back 40 years.
Metala will go back that far.
Lots of Ruthergeln dry reds - Doesn't Baileys Bundarra hermitage go back to the 50s?
Hey this is post no 1000.
You spoilt it by posting again but you are still binary

How about all the brands that have been dumbed down?
Queen Adelaide
Lindemans Porphry, Cawara
Hardy's Siegersdorf?
I few others would be Henschke Hill of Grace, Pewsey Vale, Best's, D'arry's original
Halliday's Classic wines would be a good place to take a look I reckon.
cheers
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Hmm,
How about:
Tyrrell's HVD Semillon,
Lindeman's Huter Valley Bin wines with the four digits (regular and reserve),
Booth's Tamminick Cellars whose red and white (Trebbiano if you can believe) go back to the 1920s,
Hardy's Port (my oldest being the 1972),
Then there might be some Yalumba wiines like the Signature, though I'm not sure how long it has been around.
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How about:
Tyrrell's HVD Semillon,
Lindeman's Huter Valley Bin wines with the four digits (regular and reserve),
Booth's Tamminick Cellars whose red and white (Trebbiano if you can believe) go back to the 1920s,
Hardy's Port (my oldest being the 1972),
Then there might be some Yalumba wiines like the Signature, though I'm not sure how long it has been around.
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I'd better get in quick before Daz does.....
Tahbilk Marsanne 1953 was allegedly served to Queen Elizabeth. I believe their Cabernet and Shiraz in various labels date well before this in a continuous run.
Wynns definitely, and Penfolds, Hardy, go well over 40 years.
Houghton's White Burgundy was a 1937 creation. I had magnums of their 1996 (60th vintage) and we're well past that now. Is this the longest continuous run in Australia?
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Tahbilk Marsanne 1953 was allegedly served to Queen Elizabeth. I believe their Cabernet and Shiraz in various labels date well before this in a continuous run.
Wynns definitely, and Penfolds, Hardy, go well over 40 years.
Houghton's White Burgundy was a 1937 creation. I had magnums of their 1996 (60th vintage) and we're well past that now. Is this the longest continuous run in Australia?
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roughred wrote:389 almost qualifies with continuous production from 75, same with the Bin 28.
You're suggesting there was no '74 Bin 389? I thought 389 hadn't missed a vintage since it began in 60...
74 may have been crap, but I thought there was a bin 28 as well.
It was Bin 707 which restarted in 76.
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Graeme
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Mt Edelstone.
And there's bound to be something from Yalumba - Signature to start with.
Start with the long-established family companies...
And there's bound to be something from Yalumba - Signature to start with.
Start with the long-established family companies...
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Err..We are just talking age here. Pedigree is a bit different.
My guess would be that the oldest continous wine in the country would be a a Gehrigs Shiraz.
It may have been labelled different things over the years but I'd suggest its been made since the 1850's.
Pre dating the Tahbilk.
My guess would be that the oldest continous wine in the country would be a a Gehrigs Shiraz.
It may have been labelled different things over the years but I'd suggest its been made since the 1850's.
Pre dating the Tahbilk.
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roughred wrote:I suppose we should take the fine people form Seppeltfield at their word to and assume their is 100 or so years of Para to look forward to as well.
You are a doubting thomas ? Do you think the staff have been having sly tipples over the decades

I was there yesterday taking a small group on a tour through the Barossa and can confirm there are actually many puncheons stored in the original "cellar", although they wouldn't let me sample them they state categorically they contain port set aside for 100 years (some is even older now, although not is much left).
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Sean,
I think recent RoPs have omitted more modest wines known to be over-the-hill from earlier tastings - hence the gaps in the earlier years.
The Bin 28, 389 wines were centainly made (the missing 707s are correct - not made 70-75, 81, 95, 00).
I took the 'consecutive vintages' in the original post literally: hence the legitimate claim of Mt Edelstone, but not HoG (not made in 1974 & 2000).
Just cause it's in the old Evans book, and still around now, doesn't mean it's got 40 on the trot...
cheers,
Graeme
I think recent RoPs have omitted more modest wines known to be over-the-hill from earlier tastings - hence the gaps in the earlier years.
The Bin 28, 389 wines were centainly made (the missing 707s are correct - not made 70-75, 81, 95, 00).
I took the 'consecutive vintages' in the original post literally: hence the legitimate claim of Mt Edelstone, but not HoG (not made in 1974 & 2000).
Just cause it's in the old Evans book, and still around now, doesn't mean it's got 40 on the trot...
cheers,
Graeme
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Thanks Graeme and Sean. I also read the Rewards of Patience omissions as those wine not being produced in those years...funny that they would just leave them out without any reference at all.
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Don't forget, the big RoP book in the shops now is the 6th edition. The one I have at home is the 3rd or 4th, and the earlier ones (from the early 90s, or was it late 80s?) certainly covered all earlier vintages (of wines they could get their hands on).
Surely somewhere in the introduction they cover-off the 'missing' (not tasted) early vintages of the Bin wines?
I think Hooke's book on Schubert, and earlier RoPs, attributed the 707 hiatus mainly to the demands being placed on Penfolds cabernet resources by the growth of bin 389, and there being just not enough cabernet to go around.
regards,
GG
Surely somewhere in the introduction they cover-off the 'missing' (not tasted) early vintages of the Bin wines?
I think Hooke's book on Schubert, and earlier RoPs, attributed the 707 hiatus mainly to the demands being placed on Penfolds cabernet resources by the growth of bin 389, and there being just not enough cabernet to go around.
regards,
GG