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TORB
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Hi Good Peoples,

I tried to post this a few times today but it kept timing out.

You know the drill by now, so pleat let us know what you have been drinking.
Cheers
Ric
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rooman
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Grosset Gaia 1999. I started out with a six pack of these and have slowly drank them over the last few years. Generally I have put them in the quaffable but not too interesting category, that is until the other night. Now that I am down to virtually the last bottle, it has finally decided to emerge from it foxhole and declare for all the world to hear,"Wait there is more to come". Only now that the supply has almost gone has it decided to take on a new depth of flavour, the mid palate has rounded out and the length of flavour noticably increased. :x

Bass Premium Chardonnay 2007. Tasted this blind at a slightly excessive wine dinner on Friday. Knowing there were Australian, French,German and Italian wines to come, picking which country this came from stumped most of the "experts" at the table. An elegant wine, lovely seamless wine and citrus tone and a hint of apples , most diners picked it as burgundian. Actually given the touch of apples, I initially thought it might be Marsanne notwithstanding the chardonnay nose.

Mt Mary Quintet 2006. Another wine tasted blind and again much confusion among the diners. A superb example of a top tier Australian cabernet. Soft tannins, medium bodied, floral red berry notes, very approachable for such as young wine.

Solaria Brunello di Montalcino 1996. Still very much a big wine. Even at 13 years, it clearly needs another 7 or so to fully open up and for the tannins to soften and integrate into the wine. Savory, dark cherry and slightly dusty flavour.

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Steve
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Post by Steve »

Had some people over for a night of pork in various delicious forms and wine... here are some thoughts.

1996 Domaine de la Biche Vouvray.
Dark golden yellow, very nice looking...
Green tea, cornflakes, sweet, lemon, fruit, pawpaw, unctuous tropical fruit. Dried seaweed.
Seaweed, fruit, aged white, kerosene, green tea, long and intense length, sweet, some citrus, delicious.


1992 Wendouree Cabernet Malbec.

Amazingly impenetrable inky black/purple/red, minimal bricking. Looks four years old.
Intense. Mint, rich red fruit, cassis, hugely powerful nose not showing any signs of unfortunate ageing. Chocolate, stewed plums, awesome in a glass.
Intense fruit, still looks young. Obvious tannins but not offensive, mint, some alcohol, absolutely beautiful complexity of aged characters balanced by an incredibly strong fruit backbone. Violets, cassis, chocolaty-ish. Stunning. Pity it's my last one!

Those are the stand outs that I bothered to take full notes on.

Others were an 04 Noon Eclipse (beautiful now), 2000 Maurice O'Shea shiraz (good but looking a bit old), 2006 Melton Grains of Paradise (I think it was good...!), 2004 KT And The Falcon aged release riesling (delicious), a Debortoli Black Noble (good, but not as outstanding as I'd hoped) and a couple of unknown disgorgements of Rockford Black - delicious.

I was hugely impressed with the Wendouree. The previous bottle I opened was quite disappointing, but this one was exceptionally good and one of the better wines I've had this year.

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Wayno
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Mount Pleasant Elizabeth Museum Release Semillon 1998
Closed and neutral at first but as it warmed and aired, it revealed itself as a very classy, elegant wine, with honeyed notes, lanolin and a grassy backdrop. Still quite repressed and it seems likely that this will only blossom further.

Cullen Pinot Noir 2004
Hardly the strength of the winery, one would have thought but a well made wine, all the same, lacking a varietal strength and definition. A pleasant earthiness and a lot of warming texture - which in fact, makethed the wine in this case. Nothing extraordinary but good.

DeBortoli Yarra Valley Pinot Noir 2005

A different beast to the sleepy Cullen, this leaps from the glass with a vigour, flourished with a funky backdrop. Full of stuffing and trickery, this is enjoyable and challenging at the same time.
Cheers
Wayno

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bacchaebabe
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On Friday, 98 Maxwell Reserve Shiraz. Hadn't had one of these for a while so thought it was about time. It hadn't really showed that well in the past which possibly explains my reluctance to have more however things have well and truly changed now for tis wine. This wine reminds me of a teenage boy who is growing quickly and is all arms and legs and just starting to realise his full potential. There are some jagged edges but it's finally all coming together and starting to sing. Still a deep purple colour. Lots of primary fruit still with plums and blackberry and a solid core of anise surrounded with chocolate, much like a bullet. Delicious wine just starting to hit its straps with a long future. 93

And last night we got along to Softie's for a wonderful offline. I'll post tasting notes in a separate thread but the list of wines was as follows:
96 Lanson
96 Pol Roger
97 Louis Jadot Grand Eschezeaux
95 Mount Mary Pinot Noir
90 Wantirna Estate Cab Sav Merlot
91 Wynns Black Lable cabernet Savignon
90 Chateau Filhot
NV Campbells Liquid Gold Classic Tokay
71 Chambers Rosewood Vintage Port
Cheers,
Kris

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Daryl Douglas
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Jasper Hill Georgia's Paddock 2000 Opened this bottle mid last week but didn't get around to posting an impression, left about a third of the bottle sitting in the fridge for 4-5 days. It's still a big sweet Heathcote shiraz with plenty of complementary, slightly charry oak but does show some degradation from it's time in the fridge. I'll leave the last bottle for at least another 3 years.

daz

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Post by Pelican »

Hello

2008 Crawford River Young Vines Riesling

$24 screwcap

Had an AFW( alcool free week ) so perhaps anything would've tasted great - BUT I really enjoyed this - sort of fruity but also with that acidy sterness and strictness that I dig and drink Ryesling for

2006 Rolf Binder Heinrich Greanche Shiraz Mourvedre

$30 screwcap

Tasted like Barossa so was GOOD. With Berkshire Pork cooked over charcoal.

2007 Yeringberg " DECLASSIFIED "

$20 from the mailing list , DIAM cork

Drinking as I type : nice and tannic. Admirably sold cheaper this year as apparently not up to scratch due to vintage conditions. Drinking nicely . especially considering it travelled 20km in my backpack on my treadly on my way homeafter visiting my folks this arvo' where I get my wine delivered ! I guess this is where my mind is at with wine at the moment - I'd rather drink a supposedly inferior wine from a good known spot than a blended anonymous better one - then again if anyone brought the latest Grange to try tonight I might differ....bargain at $20 !

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A blind tasting Friday night (I only consumed small amouts of each - no notes, comments from memory only)

Orlando St Helga Riesling 2007 - decent, nice aromatic nose of bath salts, passionfruit, lime and apples but a little simple and slightly confected on the palate with a distinct break in the wine's line before the acid kicked in. Tasted manipulated to me. 84 points. A disappointment when revealed.

Soumade Cote du Rhone Rasteau 1997 - OK to a point but too many faults - duck pond, burnt rubber amongst some meaty but fading dusty red fruit, reasonable structure, not a great deal of length - totally unexciting for me. 82 points. Old mate kinda liked it. :?

Oakridge Reserve Cabernet 1991 - excellent mature cabernet with classical proportions. Magical fruit at first that tended to dissipate slightly after being opened for some time. Hard to fault otherwise. Might be just past its very best. Still, 92 points from me - outstanding.

Petaluma Shiraz 1998 (First Release) - monster wine with lashings of heavily extracted black fruit and what I thought was a mixture of new US and French oak. (Sorta) Knowing Croser's propensity for doing things in his indelible way, I'd be surprised if he used American oak, but there's no mention on the bottle of what oak was used - generally a sign that US was used. Confused? So am I! My mate didn't like this one bit. I couldn't detect any overt apricot from the viognier. I thought it of excellent quality, just too young, a comment I've been making about this wine for almost a decade now. Very unusual lumpy style for a Brian Croser-inspired wine. Still, it's got a lot of potential and I'd score it at 89 points.

Maximilian Von Othergraven 1975 Kanzemer Altenberg Auslese - deeply gold-coloured but overall still in great condition for its considerable age. Displays enormous complexity without any senile characters. Lotsa sweet stone-fruits intermingling with honey, toast, minerals, apple pie, marangue and redcurrants. Lovely decadent wine possibly past the peak of its once considerable powers but still very impressive to sniff and sip on the night. Acid still evident in the long finish. 91 points.
Cheers,

David

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Post by orpheus »

Very encouraged by your tasting note of the Gaia, Rooman. I had the same feeling of disappointment that you describe when I tasted one of mine about a year ago.

I think I have the better part of a dozen yet, so I'll open one soon.

rooman wrote:Grosset Gaia 1999. I started out with a six pack of these and have slowly drank them over the last few years. Generally I have put them in the quaffable but not too interesting category, that is until the other night. Now that I am down to virtually the last bottle, it has finally decided to emerge from it foxhole and declare for all the world to hear,"Wait there is more to come". Only now that the supply has almost gone has it decided to take on a new depth of flavour, the mid palate has rounded out and the length of flavour noticably increased. :x


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Roscoe
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De Bortoli Hunter Valley Shiraz 2003
This is starting to show some regionality. There is decent intensity of fruit and alcohol with softish tannins. Good length. Good but has more (medium term) potential.
Ingoldby Shiraz 2003
Softened nicely, still with a lot of black pepper on the back palate. Good and I don't think it will improve.
McWilliams Hanwood Shiraz 2006
This did very well on the show circuit and thus I thought it would be an excellent qpr quaffer. I found it disappointing, being rather simple and lacking intensity. Just ok at the price, but not a bargain.
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jeremy
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Post by jeremy »

Wayno wrote
Mount Pleasant Elizabeth Museum Release Semillon 1998
Closed and neutral at first but as it warmed and aired, it revealed itself as a very classy, elegant wine, with honeyed notes, lanolin and a grassy backdrop. Still quite repressed and it seems likely that this will only blossom further.


Very close to how I found it a couple of years ago. Others have said it was an advanced wine (maybe bottle variation or taste), not a very good Lizzy. Nice to hear someone had a similar experience of it to me. Helps me feel sane :)

Tahbilk Shiraz 2005- loved it, dark but light on its feet with wonderful earthy aniseedy notes annd fascinating tannins. $16? God there are some good cheaper wines out there! Will try and cellar some.
As always, IMVHO. And Cheers
jeremy- http://winewilleatitself.blogspot.com/

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Post by Zinisking »

Couple oh Hunter boutique wines over the weekend


Firtsly - Lucy's Run merlot 07

A more full bodied Merlot than most you will find. Certainly has the taste of berries and I will be back for more.

Secondly - McLiesh Estate 98 Verdelho - young fresh and certainly had that fruity palate....

Both are small Hunter wineries that feature in my cellar - glad I have some more....

Also read about the Lizzie - hmm I don't mind it but much prefer the Lovedlae single Vineyard and the Phil Ryan semillon as well....

monghead
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Post by monghead »

Hi all,

A couple last night:

2005 Kooyong Haven Pinot Noir- Great meaty pinot, with masses of new world fruit. Not too heavy though, thoroughly enjoyable.

1998 Penfolds St Henri- What a monster of a wine! Mouth-staining..... I reckon it stained the innards too. Everything that others have said plus more. Sheer class. Should be a great wine in 10+ years.

Cheers,

Monghead.

bacchaebabe
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Post by bacchaebabe »

dlo wrote:Petaluma Shiraz 1998 (First Release) - monster wine with lashings of heavily extracted black fruit and what I thought was a mixture of new US and French oak. (Sorta) Knowing Croser's propensity for doing things in his indelible way, I'd be surprised if he used American oak, but there's no mention on the bottle of what oak was used - generally a sign that US was used. Confused? So am I! My mate didn't like this one bit. I couldn't detect any overt apricot from the viognier. I thought it of excellent quality, just too young, a comment I've been making about this wine for almost a decade now. Very unusual lumpy style for a Brian Croser-inspired wine. Still, it's got a lot of potential and I'd score it at 89 points.


Thanks for this note David. I bought a single bottle of this on release thinking I'd try it, see how I like it and buy some more. Of course it's still sitting in the cellar waiting to be tried. On this note, I might wait a bit longer. Doubt I'll be able to buy much more if I like it though!
Cheers,
Kris

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Mahmoud Ali
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Post by Mahmoud Ali »

A dinner among friends, all the wines served blind:

1990 Gloria Ferrer Royal Cuvee Brut, vintage Reserve, Carneros, California. Fine mousse, still fresh, and lots of crisp acidity. Surprised everyone.

2004 Signorello 'Seta' (60% Semillon/40% Sav Blanc) Barrel Fermented, Napa, California. A rich, viscous wine with considerable depth. Would love to cellar this one.

N/V T Solomon Wellborn, Pinot Noir, Santa Barbara, California. Apparently a wine made from the unused barrels of a premium product, this was quite delightful, full of rich cherry and strawberry fruit, and some depth. Well liked by all.

1997 Castcina Castlet 'Passum' Barbera D'Asti, Piedmont, Italy. Normally a 10 year old Barbera would not last this long but this producer uses the Amarone-method, drying a portion of the grapes that go into the wine. Rich and elegant when young this wine appeared somewhat clumsy now. Lots of interest here but mixed reviews

2004 Tapiz Reserva, Selection de Barricas, San Pablo Vineyard, Mendoza, Argentina. A blend of Cabernet, Malbec and Merlot, this wine was a baby, young and firm but with an elegant tannic structure. One for the cellar.

1977 Tokaji 'Szamarodni' Edes (Sweet), Hungary. This was a wine I bought many years ago and it had a lot of dark silty sediment. Being a simple Szamarodni, literally "as it comes" which means it is made from grapes straight from the vineyard without any sorting of the botrytis grapes, I had not expected anything rich or special. However it smelled good right from the decanter and turned out to be the wine of the evening, not so much for its concentration but rather its refinement and elegance. The colour of dull copper, this tokaji had an elegant candied and sherried nose, and a dryish but complex palate. Very nice.

Broadbent 10 Year Old Malmsey, Madeira, Portugal. A very nice Madeira, elegant, rich, and long, with that tangy acidity that marks a madeira. It didn't fool anybody.

Dutschke 'The Muscat', South East Australia. A rich, decadent wine, it was thick and viscous, full of sweet caramel, raisins and honey, and a spicy cinnamon note. Luscious.

A fine evening, and a real mix of wines.

Mahmoud.

Dave Dewhurst
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Just drinking right now a Katnook Estate Cabernet Sauvignon 2001, just delicious. Tobacco and juicy blackcurrant on the nose. Lots of mint and savoury blackcurrant with soft dusty tannins on the palate. With time, the nose becomes more minty and the plate laden with milk chocolate, with seemingly increasing viscosity and drying tannins. Plenty in the tank for this one too I think.

Joseph Perrier Cuvee Royale, 2002 and 2003, very similar in flavours these two with lemons and breadiness on the palate, although the 02 was nicely crisp and acidic and would probably keep a while, whereas the 03 was more rounded and easy drinking and ready to go now for me. Much preferred the 02, the 03 probably a product of the heatwave.

Chateau Fontis, 2003, Cru Bourgeois, Medoc, again a heatwave wine, but no evidence of burnt fruit. In fact no evidence of fruit at all. All mocha and milk chocolate with feathery tannins and low acidity. It was not unpleasant to drink but the lack of fruit and acidity suggest it ain't goin' nowhere. Relatively one-dimensional.

Paringa Estate Riesling, 2004, soft lemons and light honey touches with lovely acidity and good length. I have been quite impressed with the 04s and 06s I have had from Paringa - they seem to age quite nicely in the short to medium term. Know the WA distributor well for this one, so pinches of salt all round.

Cheers

Dave

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