Advice: favourite savory &/or cool climate shiraz

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Teisto
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Re: Advice: favourite savory &/or cool climate shiraz

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Chalambar is very cheap this weel. Can also recommend

Port Phillip Estate Rimage Syrah
Yering Station Reserve - although has a viognier component
Paringa Estate
Ravensworth - Canberra based as a cheaper option Bryan Martin has worked under Tim Kirk for some time and his Shiraz Viognier is pretty good drinking I think for the price
Collector - both the Marked Tree and Reserve

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Re: Advice: favourite savory &/or cool climate shiraz

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monghead wrote:
Softie wrote:Had a 2002 Michelton print Shiraz tonight. Fantastic drinking: pepper, light blackberry and licorice. Considerable tannin, but very fine. No need to touch this for 2+ years; not the slightest sign of peaking.


One of my favourite vintages for the Print.


I opened my '98 recently and was disappointed with the first bottle out of the case. It has been stored well since I purchased it so it is not storage that is the issue. I am wondering if I should just leave the rest for another few years to see what happens. Have you tried the '98 yet? If so any thoughts on it?

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rooman wrote:
monghead wrote:
Softie wrote:Had a 2002 Michelton print Shiraz tonight. Fantastic drinking: pepper, light blackberry and licorice. Considerable tannin, but very fine. No need to touch this for 2+ years; not the slightest sign of peaking.


One of my favourite vintages for the Print.


I opened my '98 recently and was disappointed with the first bottle out of the case. It has been stored well since I purchased it so it is not storage that is the issue. I am wondering if I should just leave the rest for another few years to see what happens. Have you tried the '98 yet? If so any thoughts on it?


I haven't tried one for quite a few years now, but I remember storing at the back of my mind that this was one of the '98s that I thought was too ripe and porty sweet, and I thought was starting to dry up, and wouldn't age well... Yep, just checked the cellar list. Used to have a 6-pack, drank 2, unloaded the other 4...

Hope that helps...

Monghead.

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Re: Advice: favourite savory &/or cool climate shiraz

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monghead wrote:
rooman wrote:
monghead wrote: One of my favourite vintages for the Print.


I opened my '98 recently and was disappointed with the first bottle out of the case. It has been stored well since I purchased it so it is not storage that is the issue. I am wondering if I should just leave the rest for another few years to see what happens. Have you tried the '98 yet? If so any thoughts on it?


I haven't tried one for quite a few years now, but I remember storing at the back of my mind that this was one of the '98s that I thought was too ripe and porty sweet, and I thought was starting to dry up, and wouldn't age well... Yep, just checked the cellar list. Used to have a 6-pack, drank 2, unloaded the other 4...

Hope that helps...

Monghead.


Thanks that is sort of how I recall it. I now know what I need to move to Langtons this month to cover some of the recent riesling purchases. :D

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The Story

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daz wrote:There has been mention of Howard Park Scotsdale but that's the only one I noticed from the Great Southern region. There's also Plantagenet and Forest Hill, in particular from the latter, the Block 9.


Agreed about the HP, and also the HP Leston shiraz. These wines need time to show their best; IME, at about 7 years they are at their best.

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daz wrote:The Story


Hi Daz

Are you going to open one? I am umming and ahhing as it is usually a buy for me but being so far over busget and starting renovations I am wondering whether I should skip the 09

Cheers

Michael
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daz
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Re: Advice: favourite savory &/or cool climate shiraz

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Michael McNally wrote:
daz wrote:The Story


Hi Daz

Are you going to open one? I am umming and ahhing as it is usually a buy for me but being so far over busget and starting renovations I am wondering whether I should skip the 09

Cheers

Michael


Gday Michael. I've only ever bought three each of the 2006 Grampians and Westgate. I think (hope?) I have just one btl of the Westgate left and that won't be opened for some years yet. Going by Halliday's TNs the qpr of Rory's wines is consistent hence my mention of them.

Like you I have only Rory's "early days" comments to go by for the 2009s.

Regards

daz

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Re: Advice: favourite savory &/or cool climate shiraz

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I too am biased but have you tried the Winter Creek Williamstown (Southern Barossa) Shiraz and Grenache Shiraz which are savory and elegent due to the climatic conditions we experience here, with the close proximity to the Barossa Ranges. Not all Barossa reds are big and alcoholic. Prices range $25-$30.00. Refer to James Halliday 2010 Companion.
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