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Sunday yet again....

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Hi Good Peoples,

Its that time of the week again. Please let us know what you have been drinking over the last week. As usual, all input is welcome.
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P Morey Meursault 1er Cru Les Perrieres 1995
A gorgeous floral, mineral laden nose with a stunning citrus focus and an oily focus. The honey, richness and texture are in great harmony. The oleaginous texture is kept in check beautifully by the wines perfect acidic rear end! A celestial glass of Chardonnay and a wine for a posh supper with appropriate fodder. Finishes long & delicious. 13.5%vol. 90pts


Domaine Marcoux 'Domaine et Selection' CdP 2001
This 'black label' bottling (not the traditional tan label or VV one) is made from a separate parcel of almost 100% old vine Grenache and apparently sold into the ownership of Domaine et Selection when the Armenier sisters and brother were at hostilities over ownership of Domaine Marcoux in 1997 – although I have to admit I don’t know why they sold this small parcel of land. This wine is however, made by the Armenier sisters and labelled separately. Apparently 200-300 cases were made from each vintage between 1998-2003. A bit of an oddball by the sound of things!

Opened for an hour to remove the funk…

Deep crimson. The nose reveals a grocers bag of black cherry, wild strawberry, ripe fig, dark meat, animal fur, soy, mushroom and lavender. This doesn’t half taste terrific with its silky textured palate showing admirable concentration and thankfully not another sweaty bollocked négociant wine with good acidity, softening tannins, warming finish and a spicy kick just in the right place. Although very nicely balanced this still needs a couple of years to strut its stuff with more confidence. Not a profound wine (or one for the masses either) but wonderfully delicious one, and glad to have found another case at a great price. 15%vol. 91pts

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On Friday night 16 people from the tasting groups I participate in had a feast of good Thai food at our favourite Thai restaurant, with red wine from my cellar. Menu and wines matched to the courses are here:
http://redbigot.info/thai_and_red_wine.htm
The wines went pretty well with the food and the two shiraz went better with the duck dishes than the young (and otherwise quite acceptable) NZ Pinot, which was included as an experiment. Most of the food was less chilli hot than the restaurant would normally serve to me, in consideration of the mixed tolerance of the group, but otherwise the dishes were authentically spiced, the sliced chillis on the side for those addicted were a "good batch".
Most wines were under cork, the Dalwhinnie Shiraz 1998 was very slightly tainted, but shared between 12-14 people, only a few noticed, all the rest were in fine condition.
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Brian, how was the Mayford Porepunkah shiraz?
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And how'd you find the 02 RSW? Now or later?
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pstarr wrote:Brian, how was the Mayford Porepunkah shiraz?

The Mayford is brilliant, second bottle I've tried from the 6 I bought, the pure fruit and spiciness stood up to both the tangy Larb Ped and the richer, sweeter red duck curry, although the Massena matched the rich red duck curry a little better. Should have bought more (of the Mayford).
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Gary W wrote:And how'd you find the 02 RSW? Now or later?
GW

I was pretty happy with this bottle of the RSW, pretty similar to the one I had late last year, drinks well now, but will hold for 2-3 more yet I think. I have 3 left and will probably leave one until 2012 to see how it goes and drink the other 2 next year.
I know Brucer has had a very bad run with his (oxidised), the three I've had in the past year or so have all been consistently good, no signs of premature oxidation or excessive va.
I usually aim to drink my RSWs by about 10yo, have a couple of 98's left, last tried late 2008 as well, seemed to be no hurry to drink them up though.
Haven't bought recent vintages since they went from $40 to $55.
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02 cullen Chardonnay
94 Irvine Grand merlot
03 Cirillo Grenache
06 Cirllo Granache
06 Rusden Mataro
04 Killikanoon Prodical Grenache


Regards Dazza :mrgreen:
Some people slurp it,others swill it,a few sip on it,some gaze at it for hours ,enough now wheres the RED

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dazza1968 wrote:02 cullen Chardonnay
94 Irvine Grand merlot
03 Cirillo Grenache
06 Cirllo Granache
06 Rusden Mataro
04 Killikanoon Prodical Grenache


Regards Dazza :mrgreen:



How was the Irvine Daz?....i've heard the '94 to be quite magnificent

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I tried one of the dozen Tyrrell's Rufus Stone 2007 Heathcote Shiraz that I bought this week. I think it will do nicely in a few years.

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No ability to write tasting notes whatsoever but will try to convey as much as possible... apologies for my amateurism.

Dromana Estate Reserve Pinot 2001 (Mornington Peninsula) - Poor cellaring made this right at the end of its ageing but this was a still a beautiful rich wine. Translucent brown colouring, slightly muddy. Drank beautifully, wondering how it would have been if stored in better conditions, but not complaining.

The other red wine of last night was just a Koonunga Hill Shiraz Cabernet 2001 - Big, dry, hefty and chewy. Even considering its position in the range this is still very Penfolds, full-bodied. Blackberries, moderate oak. Thick, no shortage of tannins. Very enjoyable, did exactly what was expected of it.

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How was the '99 Langi, Brian? Never tasted a Langi before, but have a '98 stashed away in a dark corner somewhere, collected on a whim whilst making up a dozen. Don't know what to expect...

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1998 Peter Lehmann Black Queen Sparkling Shiraz - much earthier than I recall. Ok, but nothing to write home about.

2006 Penfolds Bin 389 - on day 2 this was singing. Perfumed, long and delicious. This will be fantastic in 2022.

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1998 Te Mata Awatea. Have seen a few comments that this is fading and have had the odd struggling bottle myself but this bottle was pristine, structured and youthful. Very impressive. I only have one bottle left. Think I will still drink it fairly soon
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Hello Ross and yes what you have heard is spot on, Rich in colour and silky smooth . I was impressed just how good it was :!:Mind you we were all well over the limit ( :roll: ) I saw a tn on 94 abbotts praire from henschke and the 94 was singing so maybe they are hitting their straps and 94 is coming into its own

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odyssey wrote:How was the '99 Langi, Brian? Never tasted a Langi before, but have a '98 stashed away in a dark corner somewhere, collected on a whim whilst making up a dozen. Don't know what to expect...

Typical of that era of Langi Shiraz, medium-weight, still spicy and a little white-peppery, mellowed black cherry fruit and drinking very well now - as long as you don't mind the touch of brett, this bottle was only mildly affected and didn't detract from the enjoyment. Some bottles in different settings have been unpleasantly bretty, this was my last one. I still have 3 98, time to get into them probably.
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Well, enjoying Brian's adventures with shiraz and duck :) Pretty bog standard week for me. But here are a few-

2007 Catching Theives Cab/Merlot- lovely stuff, not much 07 left in Sth Brisbane. Had meant to taste it alongside an 08. Oh well, very nice on 2nd day with lamb chops, green beans and chips.

2008 Angove's Nine Vines Shiraz Viognier- I liked this more when it was a little closed off than when it opened up. There you go. Top value either way at $13.

2008 Jacob's Creek Reserve Reisling- geez, you can be low on income and still enjoy very good wine in Australia. Sub $12 for this :!: . Beautiful limes and zippy but not overhwelming acidity. Worked a treat with Maggie Beer's Pea, Mint and Verjuice paté. In the sun, it's still summer-ish in Brisbane. Lovely picinic with my girlfriend.
As always, IMVHO. And Cheers
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Chapel Hill "the Vicar" 2006

Have to put in another vote for this wine, which seems to me to be overlooked because of recent Chapel Hill form.

Can't tell you what it will be like as a cellaring proposition, but it is bloody marvellous at the moment!

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A few wines had at my brother’s 50th birthday party. Cheap bastard put the 1998 Grange back in the cellar!

2001 Penfolds Bin 707 glorious, smooth, unctuous, wrap around your mouth, worth every bit of its $150 price tag.

2001 Penfolds RWT beautiful, full bodied, full of flavour, silky. I was worried about this due to its provenance and a previous review that suggested cloves but didn’t find the cloves – just pleasure.

2004 Torbreck Run Rig everything you could want in a wine, layer upon layer of flavours, beautiful berries, oozes class and youthfulness but a wine that you can really enjoy young or leave for many years.

1995 Penfolds St Henri – a swan of a wine that we flew with at the end of the night knowing that we would have a hell of a hangover in the morning but that it was going to be worth it! A plethora of flavours to die for

1999 Wynns John Riddoch – just couldn’t live up to its peers – too thin and weak compared to the rest

2002 La Testa cabernet – opened for one of the outer group who wasn’t really into wine but when we tried it we got a shock – it was universally the 2nd favourite of the night! An “in your face” wine of wonderful flavour and balance

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Luke W wrote:A few wines had at my brother’s 50th birthday party. Cheap bastard put the 1998 Grange back in the cellar!

2001 Penfolds Bin 707 glorious, smooth, unctuous, wrap around your mouth, worth every bit of its $150 price tag.

2001 Penfolds RWT beautiful, full bodied, full of flavour, silky. I was worried about this due to its provenance and a previous review that suggested cloves but didn’t find the cloves – just pleasure.

2004 Torbreck Run Rig everything you could want in a wine, layer upon layer of flavours, beautiful berries, oozes class and youthfulness but a wine that you can really enjoy young or leave for many years.

1995 Penfolds St Henri – a swan of a wine that we flew with at the end of the night knowing that we would have a hell of a hangover in the morning but that it was going to be worth it! A plethora of flavours to die for

1999 Wynns John Riddoch – just couldn’t live up to its peers – too thin and weak compared to the rest

2002 La Testa cabernet – opened for one of the outer group who wasn’t really into wine but when we tried it we got a shock – it was universally the 2nd favourite of the night! An “in your face” wine of wonderful flavour and balance

cheers

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Shame about the grange but not bad alternatives :shock: . Nice selection

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Luke W wrote:A few wines had at my brother’s 50th birthday party. Cheap bastard put the 1998 Grange back in the cellar!

2001 Penfolds Bin 707 glorious, smooth, unctuous, wrap around your mouth, worth every bit of its $150 price tag.

2001 Penfolds RWT beautiful, full bodied, full of flavour, silky. I was worried about this due to its provenance and a previous review that suggested cloves but didn’t find the cloves – just pleasure.

2004 Torbreck Run Rig everything you could want in a wine, layer upon layer of flavours, beautiful berries, oozes class and youthfulness but a wine that you can really enjoy young or leave for many years.

1995 Penfolds St Henri – a swan of a wine that we flew with at the end of the night knowing that we would have a hell of a hangover in the morning but that it was going to be worth it! A plethora of flavours to die for

1999 Wynns John Riddoch – just couldn’t live up to its peers – too thin and weak compared to the rest

2002 La Testa cabernet – opened for one of the outer group who wasn’t really into wine but when we tried it we got a shock – it was universally the 2nd favourite of the night! An “in your face” wine of wonderful flavour and balance

cheers

Luke


Sounds like a great party!

Interested to hear that of the Run Rig. I think this vintage got mixed reviews? Haven't tasted it myself, but what do others think?

Hopefully that cheap bastard will bring the '98 Grange to your 50th?...

Cheers,

Monghead.

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98 Tahbilk Cabernet Sauvignn Magenta red in colour. On the nose, meat, pepper, sweet tobacco and red berries. Juicy berries on palate with fully resolved tannins. Faded a little bit towards the end of the bottle. Drinking well now but time to drink up. 91

01 Caledonia Australis Pinot Noir Pale crimson red. Lovely full bodied nose of funky mushrooms, strawberries, raspberries and cherries. All this followed through to the palate although it had a slightly bitter finish after a nice sweet entry. This was a cheap grays purchase and for the price is really just fantastic drinking. 89.
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Two nice Barossa reds

2006 Sons of Eden “Kennedy” Barossa Valley Grenache Shiraz Mourvedre. SC
Dark ruby red. Nose of sweet red plums, old wood, a little musk and spice. Very enticing. Savour plum and red berry fruit with good mouthfeel. The slightly sweet musk is balanced by the savoury elements nicely. Little tannin to speak of. Very, Very Good. Two out of two from this producer.
(next night not a lot of improvement and the nose was a little duller. Still good but not as good as night one which suggests to me drink soonish)

2006 St Hallet “Blackwell” Barossa Valley Shiraz. 375ml. SC.
Deep red with purple at the edge. Nose of wet red earth, black tea, black berry, spice and dark chocolate. Something I can’t pick. Palate has gutsy black plum and berry with coffee grounds, chocolate and vanilla bean. Excellent length. Very, Very Good (almost made Excellent).
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1990 Mosswood Cabernet

Not overly impressed with this bottle, although in pristine condition the wine showed a huge amount of leather and some stewed prune characteristics but not much else. The mouthfeel was lovely and silky but the strange leathery prune in the mouth just didnt seem quite right. Has anyone else had any similar experiences with this vintage of late?

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RedVelvet wrote:1990 Mosswood Cabernet

Not overly impressed with this bottle, although in pristine condition the wine showed a huge amount of leather and some stewed prune characteristics but not much else. The mouth feel was lovely and silky but the strange leathery prune in the mouth just didn't seem quite right. Has anyone else had any similar experiences with this vintage of late?


My last bottle earlier this year was exceptional. No prunes. Multifaceted, still building, quite simply, exceptional.
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Michael McNally wrote:Two nice Barossa reds

2006 Sons of Eden “Kennedy” Barossa Valley Grenache Shiraz Mourvedre. SC
Dark ruby red. Nose of sweet red plums, old wood, a little musk and spice. Very enticing. Savour plum and red berry fruit with good mouthfeel. The slightly sweet musk is balanced by the savoury elements nicely. Little tannin to speak of. Very, Very Good. Two out of two from this producer.
(next night not a lot of improvement and the nose was a little duller. Still good but not as good as night one which suggests to me drink soonish)

2006 St Hallet “Blackwell” Barossa Valley Shiraz. 375ml. SC.
Deep red with purple at the edge. Nose of wet red earth, black tea, black berry, spice and dark chocolate. Something I can’t pick. Palate has gutsy black plum and berry with coffee grounds, chocolate and vanilla bean. Excellent length. Very, Very Good (almost made Excellent).


I agree that the Blackwell is a good wine. Judging from your tasting notes, you are a super-taster :D . I did not notice wet red earth or black tea on the nose. I did not notice any coffee grounds, nor black plum. Will have to open another one (or two) :D

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Sounds like a great party!

Interested to hear that of the Run Rig. I think this vintage got mixed reviews? Haven't tasted it myself, but what do others think?

Hopefully that cheap bastard will bring the '98 Grange to your 50th?...

Cheers,

Monghead.


Wish I was 50 again - maybe for my 60th. I don't know about you but I often save incredibly good wines until it's too late to drink them..... (hard to let go e.g., I bought a bottle of 1996 Grange and 1996 Dom for my wife's 50th birthday 2 years ago but haven't been able to bring myself to open them).
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Luke, I share your pain. I have a dozen 1990 Grange set aside for my 50th but I'm thinking they might drink better on my 60th. Maybe a couple for the 50th to see how they are going then some on my 60th. It's also number 1 nephew's birth year so he might get a few for his 40th - or 50th even! He won't be seeing one for his 21st though, that's for sure.

Those two 96 wines are probably best left for your wife's 60th at the VERY earliest and probably much better on the 70th! Good move not drinking them on her 50th!

I have a major problem with vinfanticide but I'm also very annoyed when I miss the boat on something. It's a constant problem.
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orpheus wrote:I agree that the Blackwell is a good wine. Judging from your tasting notes, you are a super-taster :D . I did not notice wet red earth or black tea on the nose. I did not notice any coffee grounds, nor black plum. Will have to open another one (or two) :D


I trust there is a good dose or irony in there orpheus! I admit I was struggling a bit for descriptors for the Blackwell as there was something I couldn't quite pick on the nose. I don't normally go so much for the "palate of nightingale tongue" malarkey.

Happy if it gives you an excuse to crack another bottle.

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Fairly hefty weekend...

Saturday: -
Raveneau Montee de Tonnerre Chablis 2003
Reinhold Haart Kabinett 2007
Domaine Clape Cotes du Rhone 2005
Rockford Moppa Springs 2004
Domaine Breton Bourgueil Clos Senechal 2007

Sunday - welcome drinks for some sommeliers visiting the Barossa probably around 50 Barossan wines but I don't have the list.

Monday: Around the traps with the sommeliers....first a visit to Pewsey Vale vineyard on a very dismal morning....tried the 2004 Pewsey Vale contours riesling up against a Egon Muller Scarzhoffberger Spatlese 2007.
Then off to visit Troy and Tony Kalleske and try their Grenache against a 2004 Chateau Rayas Reserve CNdP + the '04 and '05 Johan Georg.

Next stop...Kalimna cottage for a look at the 2004 Penfolds Block 42 up against a 2005 Chateau Pichon Lalande.

Then last stop was Hill of Grace vineyard where we had a look at the 2005 Hill of Grace up against a 2006 Chave Hermitage.

Lunch at Yalumba in the awesome new 'tank' rooms and then a sub-regional tasting....wines as follows.

Dutschke St Jakobi 2006
Burge Draycott Shiraz 2006
Linfield Road The Stubbon Patriach 2005
Jacobs Creek Centenary Hill shiraz 2006
Schild estate Moorooroo Shiraz 2005
Bethany LE Reserve Shiraz 2006
Schwarz Nitschke Block Shiraz 2006
Rusden Black Guts Shiraz 2006
St Hallet Eden Valley Shiraz 2006
Poonawatta The Cuttings Shiraz 2006
Sorby Adams The Thing Shiraz 2006
Langmeil The Freedom 2008
Peter Lehmann Light Pass Shiraz 2007
Elderton Command 2005
First drop Fat of the Land Shiraz 2006
R Wines evil Incarnate Shiraz 2004
Teusner Astral series Riebke FG Shiraz 2006
Chateau Tanunda Greenock Shiraz 2008
Torbreck Factor 2006
Standish Wine Co Andelmonde Shiraz 2007
Kaesler Alte Reben Shiraz 2006
Charles Melton Grains of Paradise Shiraz 2006
Glaymond The Distance Shiraz 2006
Rolf Binder Hanisch Shiraz 2006

Second one of these sub-regional tastings I've been to and it is amazing the difference you pick up between the various regions within the Barossa.

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