Suggestions-Best Shiraz around $50 mark (Shrz/Cab incl)

Partagas · Post by **Partagas** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:40 pm

I know this is a pretty broad question, but IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve over stocked on Cab Sav over the years (not a bad thing usually) and want to balance out a bit more with Shiraz. Would really like to hear opinions I also think this might be a fairly difficult price bracket cause there is so much out there (which is my reason behind the question).

Sam

dave vino · Post by **dave vino** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:34 pm

Rockford Basket Press
Seppelt St Peters
Dalwhinnie Shiraz
Darenburg Dead Arm Shiraz
Glaetzer Annaperena Shiraz/Cab
Mount Langhi Ghiran Shiraz
Tahbilk ES Purbrick Shiraz

cuttlefish · Post by **cuttlefish** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 6:01 pm

You could make a massive list....here's a few...

Shaw and Smith
Cape Mentelle
Wirra Wirra RSW
Jardine
Jim Barry McCrae Wood
Clonakilla O'Riada
Tyrrells Vat 9
Murdock
Murray Street Vineyard
Hochkirch

All would have very good shiraz between $40-60, a couple might even come in under $40.

Leigh · Post by **Leigh** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:03 pm

Howdy Sam,

I am a big fan of the 2005 Teusner Albert Shiraz. Smooth, rich and very easy drinking. Our host (Gavin) I think sells it!. Bloody good wine and will only get better over the next 5-10 years.

Cheers
Leigh

Mike Hawkins · Post by **Mike Hawkins** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:26 am

For mine it would be in order, Rockford BP, Schubert Gooseyard Block, Kalleske & Turkey Flat.

Of the blends - Yalumba Signature, Penfolds Bin 389 & Glaetzer Annaperna (some may be morte cab than shiraz).

Cheers

Mike

JamieH · Post by **JamieH** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:59 am

and the list goes on -
The willows bonesetter
Bests Bin 0
port phillip estate syrah
shadowfax oneeye shiraz

Jamie

winetastic · Post by **winetastic** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:22 am

Meerea Park 'Alexander Munro' Shiraz
Keith Tulloch 'Kester' Shiraz
Thomas 'Kiss' Shiraz
d'Arenberg 'The Dead Arm' Shiraz
Murray Street Vineyards Gomersal Shiraz
Murray Street Vineyards Greenock Shiraz

rooman · Post by **rooman** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:40 am

cuttlefish wrote:You could make a massive list....here's a few...

Shaw and Smith
Cape Mentelle
Wirra Wirra RSW
Jardine
Jim Barry McCrae Wood
Clonakilla O'Riada
Tyrrells Vat 9
Murdock
Murray Street Vineyard
Hochkirch

All would have very good shiraz between $40-60, a couple might even come in under $40.

Does anyone really collect the Vat 9? I ask because I never see it written up anywhere or referred to even in passing.

griff · Post by **griff** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:24 am

rooman wrote:
cuttlefish wrote:You could make a massive list....here's a few...

Shaw and Smith
Cape Mentelle
Wirra Wirra RSW
Jardine
Jim Barry McCrae Wood
Clonakilla O'Riada
Tyrrells Vat 9
Murdock
Murray Street Vineyard
Hochkirch

All would have very good shiraz between $40-60, a couple might even come in under $40.

Does anyone really collect the Vat 9? I ask because I never see it written up anywhere or referred to even in passing.

Well I drink it if that helps

Was variable in the past but recent vintages i.e. 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 have been consistently good. If you google you would find quite a few reviews.

cheers

Carl

mopiko · Post by **mopiko** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:00 am

speaking of Basket Press (Rockford), does anyone know when it will be released this year?

pstarr · Post by **pstarr** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:10 am

rooman wrote:
cuttlefish wrote:You could make a massive list....here's a few...

Shaw and Smith
Cape Mentelle
Wirra Wirra RSW
Jardine
Jim Barry McCrae Wood
Clonakilla O'Riada
Tyrrells Vat 9
Murdock
Murray Street Vineyard
Hochkirch

All would have very good shiraz between $40-60, a couple might even come in under $40.

Does anyone really collect the Vat 9? I ask because I never see it written up anywhere or referred to even in passing.

Yep, Vat 9 is the wine most represented in my cellar. Some 70's, few from the 80's, heaps from 90's vintages, and a bit since the 90's. I probably should drink more and write them up.

Actually, I had an '82 Vat 9, from what I recall, over the holidays. It was hot, and most people wanted whites, so I had a glass or two and it went back in the fridge. I forgot about it for one or two nights, and came back to find it doing very well - especially when drunk with some fridge chill, much as I sometimes do for pinot noir or beaujolais. Old Hunters from the fridge was not something I'd ever thought of doing before, but worked out well that time.

Partagas · Post by **Partagas** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:29 am

Thanks for that so far.

Shaw and Smith and Glaetzer Annaperna sound good at the moment. Have a few 04 Cape Mentelle left which are delicious.

Rockford Basket Press might be a bit hard though. I had seen it yesterday for around $200+ a bottle here in a big chain Perth store. Please let me know if it is possible to pick it up at around $60 :shock:

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Loztralia · Post by **Loztralia** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:18 pm

Here's a few I like a lot:
Sandalford Estate Reserve (c$35)
Clonakilla Hilltops (c$25)
Tatler Nonpareil (c$45)
Two Hands Lily's Garden (c$60)

Wayno · Post by **Wayno** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:49 pm

Partagas wrote:Thanks for that so far.

Shaw and Smith and Glaetzer Annaperna sound good at the moment. Have a few 04 Cape Mentelle left which are delicious.

Rockford Basket Press might be a bit hard though. I had seen it yesterday for around $200+ a bottle here in a big chain Perth store. Please let me know if it is possible to pick it up at around $60 .

The mark ups on Rockford BP are ridiculous. I saw a 98 Rockford BP in Dan Murphy's for $250ish (may have even been more), 2002 for $120ish and 04 for $100ish.

All this for a wine that sells for about $50 at CD/mailing list.

Wayno · Post by **Wayno** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:50 pm

FWIW, I'd vote:

Shaw and Smith, which I think is a great wine
Glaetzer Annaperenna
Dead Arm

Where do you stop though???

malliemcg · Post by **malliemcg** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:51 pm

Oliver's Taranga Shiraz HJ Reserve ($40)
Kay Amery Shiraz Hillside ($40)
Richard Hamilton Centurion Shiraz ($??) - I think I'm up to my second to last '01 which is drinking rather nicely.

You can also occasionally pick up the St Henri around/just after release on special for the 55-65 mark, but you'd want to have some where to let 'em sleep for a few years.

rooman · Post by **rooman** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:03 pm

thanks for the feedback on the Vat 9. I may try picking up a few old ones on Langtons to see what they are like. It seems the only Hunter Shiraz so far in the cellar are some McWilliams Maurice O'Shea 2000 and a whole lot of the Meera Park 05. Has anyone tried the McWilliams Maurice O'Shea recently?

Partagas · Post by **Partagas** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:13 pm

rooman wrote:thanks for the feedback on the Vat 9. I may try picking up a few old ones on Langtons to see what they are like. It seems the only Hunter Shiraz so far in the cellar are some McWilliams Maurice O'Shea 2000 and a whole lot of the Meera Park 05. Has anyone tried the McWilliams Maurice O'Shea recently?

I had my last bottle (Maurice O'Shea 2000) early last year. When I first started drinking them on release they were just superb. After about a year they seemed to go into a weird dull phase. Kept trying for a few more years then sold off most of what I had left last year. Still think it might return but just wasnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t sure. Interested to hear other opinions.

winetastic · Post by **winetastic** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:38 pm

rooman wrote:Has anyone tried the McWilliams Maurice O'Shea recently?

Tried the current release (2005) at the cellar door recently, I was a tad underwhelmed at the price point - even though it is definitely a good wine.

dave vino · Post by **dave vino** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:34 pm

mopiko wrote:speaking of Basket Press (Rockford), does anyone know when it will be released this year?

For non-Stonewallers I think it's Mar/Apr at CD, but don't quote me.

Gary W · Post by **Gary W** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:36 pm

rooman wrote:thanks for the feedback on the Vat 9. I may try picking up a few old ones on Langtons to see what they are like. It seems the only Hunter Shiraz so far in the cellar are some McWilliams Maurice O'Shea 2000 and a whole lot of the Meera Park 05. Has anyone tried the McWilliams Maurice O'Shea recently?

You must move in the wrong circles if you don't hear much about Vat9

Vat 9 is really on song again - esp. since 2006 and the 2007 is awesome.
From auction maybe 98 and 91 - I'd not go overboard on the others.

The 05 and 06 O'Shea are very good, pass on 04. O'Shea (good vintages) really needs about 14 or more years in the cellar..
GW

Mike Hawkins · Post by **Mike Hawkins** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:15 am

dave vino wrote:
mopiko wrote:speaking of Basket Press (Rockford), does anyone know when it will be released this year?

For non-Stonewallers I think it's Mar/Apr at CD, but don't quote me.

Normally 1 March Dave.

And mid to late October for Stonewallers

Partagas · Post by **Partagas** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:01 pm

So does that mean you can pick up BP from cellar door in March for non Stonewallers? What is the price?

Sam

dave vino · Post by **dave vino** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:37 pm

Yep about $55, I think it's limited to 3 bottles per person.

Partagas · Post by **Partagas** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:41 pm

Thanks Dave.

All I need to do now is spend $600 on a ticket to Adelaide and pick up a few. Actually now that I think about itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s actually the same price as buying it here minus the free trip to SA

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Davo · Post by **Davo** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:51 pm

Kays Hillside
Magpie Election
Willows Bonesetter
Heritage Roscoes
Greenock Creek Alices or Apricot Blocks
Turkey Flat
Yalumba Signature
Killikanoon Covenant
Tim Adams Aberfeldy
Jim Barry McRae Wood
Saltram No 1.
Bailey's 1904 Block
Seppelt St Peters

Partagas · Post by **Partagas** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:47 am

That is a good list Davo, but if you had to pick 3 out of those, what would you pick?

Davo · Post by **Davo** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:04 am

Partagas wrote:That is a good list Davo, but if you had to pick 3 out of those, what would you pick?

Actually, I bought current releases of them all

plus the Rockies BP which had already been mentioned so I didn't.

I don't think I could narrow it to just 3 as all are superb, some very different to others, but all superb, but perhaps... Nup, the more I think about it the less chance I have of picking just 3, and in fact start thinking of more such as :-
Leasingham Classic Clare
Peel Estate
Houghton Frankland River
Penfolds Bin 389
Rolf Binder Bulls Blood (Shiraz Mataro blend)
Seppelt Benno
Vasse Felix
JJ Hahn 1928
Zema Family Selection

Nah, no chance for just 3, sorry.

Partagas · Post by **Partagas** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:00 pm

Davo wrote:
Partagas wrote:That is a good list Davo, but if you had to pick 3 out of those, what would you pick?

Actually, I bought current releases of them all plus the Rockies BP which had already been mentioned so I didn't.

I don't think I could narrow it to just 3 as all are superb, some very different to others, but all superb, but perhaps... Nup, the more I think about it the less chance I have of picking just 3, and in fact start thinking of more such as :-
Leasingham Classic Clare
Peel Estate
Houghton Frankland River
Penfolds Bin 389
Rolf Binder Bulls Blood (Shiraz Mataro blend)
Seppelt Benno
Vasse Felix
JJ Hahn 1928
Zema Family Selection

Nah, no chance for just 3, sorry.

Thanks mate that really helps. If I had a bigger budget :roll:

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Houghtons is great value. 2001 the best. Think I paid about $20 a few years back.

rooman · Post by **rooman** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:08 pm

Gary W wrote:
rooman wrote:thanks for the feedback on the Vat 9. I may try picking up a few old ones on Langtons to see what they are like. It seems the only Hunter Shiraz so far in the cellar are some McWilliams Maurice O'Shea 2000 and a whole lot of the Meera Park 05. Has anyone tried the McWilliams Maurice O'Shea recently?

You must move in the wrong circles if you don't hear much about Vat9

Vat 9 is really on song again - esp. since 2006 and the 2007 is awesome.
From auction maybe 98 and 91 - I'd not go overboard on the others.

The 05 and 06 O'Shea are very good, pass on 04. O'Shea (good vintages) really needs about 14 or more years in the cellar..
GW

Ah you know me, just another dumb amateur trying to find his way in the big world of wine. If you like the 07 so much, I am happy to take the 07 4 Acres off your hands in return for some more 07 Vat 9. :wink:

Thanks for the update on the O'Shea I was guessing a long haul drip.