2002 Penfolds

[Andrew H]

I read with interest the articles on the “2002 Penfolds - BIN 389” and problems probably associated with corkage. Today I noticed 2002 Grange on special at $399 and wondered if Penfolds had an issue with faulty corks could it extend that far? I thought of buying a couple at that price but is it possible that there is an issue past the 389? Any ideas or thoughts? Andrew

[Wayno]

The 389 I experienced sad hearted indifference to was by no means corked or tainted. I like to think that it was merely transitional, taking Ian's theory on board. The Kalmina may have been another matter though.

[Partagas]

Yep more and more hearing of St Henri cork issues (like mine). Just hope my 8 other bottles are ok

[Mike Hawkins]

My experience is that Penfold's wines post 1990 are no worse or better than most other wineries. I think we hear of more problems from their wines due to the sheer volume they make.

In my experience, Voyager Estate has been tracking at 50% defective wines based on the past 20+ bottles (likely cork related - TCA, randox) which is a shame. I love their wines but wont buy them anymore unless they come under screwcap.

Mike

[Gary W]

In my experience, Voyager Estate has been tracking at 50% defective wines based on the past 20+ bottles (likely cork related - TCA, randox) which is a shame. I love their wines but wont buy them anymore unless they come under screwcap.

Mike

All the reds screwcap since 2001. Whites too. There were some cork sealed 2001 too though. I have both of that vintage (not by choice).
GW

[Bick]

All the reds screwcap since 2001. Whites too. There were some cork sealed 2001 too though. I have both of that vintage (not by choice).
GW

Not true. I have a few of the Voyager 03 cab/merlot and they're cork sealed.

[Gary W]

All the reds screwcap since 2001. Whites too. There were some cork sealed 2001 too though. I have both of that vintage (not by choice).
GW

Not true. I have a few of the Voyager 03 cab/merlot and they're cork sealed.

Export.
GW

[Partagas]

Mike wrote

I think we hear of more problems from their wines due to the sheer volume they make.

Mike, I think it is more to do with price spent.

Went to the Perth hills wine show (on again this weekend if anybody is interested) last year and found an unbelievable Shiraz at $12 per bottle. Out of the 12 I bought two or three were drinkable. Same experience a friend had. We didn't bother doing anything about it. However, I paid $150 for a single magnum of 02 St Henri which has a cork issue (leakage) and I am furious at the lack of care by the wine juggernaut. I have put a very fair wack of hard earned cash into that company over the years.

It is price paid for me

Sam

[Bick]

Export.
GW

Erm, I think export wine still counts as wine, particularly for Mike who lives in NY.

[Gary W]

Export.
GW

Erm, I think export wine still counts as wine, particularly for Mike who lives in NY.

What I am saying is locally it has all been screwcap for years i.e. the winery has a screwcap policy. The export market probably gets what it asks for ...so to speak.
GW

[Partagas]

Actually Gary, I did purchase an 02 Voyager cab/merl here and it was under cork. In fact (uhha) it ended up being corked and the professional company that is Voyager happily replaced it with an 04 upon return (see Penfolds take note ).

[Mike Hawkins]

Gary, not over here. The Yanks don't seem to like screwcaps, though I did get some Voyager chardy under Stelvin.

The Penfolds 04 Bin 60a and Kalimna I bought were under screwcap and I only got them because no-one wanted them. Those bottled under cork were essentially pre-sold. Go figure as they say here....