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We had a few people drop out at the last second, so just the seven of us dropped in to Jerusalem on Hindley Street to share in a banquet menu. It was probably just as well, because even with seven we found it a little cramped for space by the time we all had our glasses out and the food arrived all at once, but the quality of the authentic Lebanese dishes more than made up for it. My thanks to everyone again for their great company and for sharing another selection of interesting wines, and of course to Sarah for organising it.


1970 Clare Valley Brut ‘Champagne’ (sic): Flat as a tack and looking like the Yarra river on a bad day, this still had some nice ginger characters which combined with the dosage made it almost drinkable despite being completely oxidised. This was a real weird label – just a company/club (which I didn’t note down) and no real indicator of who actually made it, or what it was made from either.

1999 Lindemans Bin 9455 Hunter Valley Semillon: Light gold colour. Tight nose with pithy/slightly waxy fruit, and the palate doesn’t give up much either – this was better as it warmed up, but was always in the shadow of the Tyrrell’s Vat 1.

1998 Tyrrell’s Vat 1 Semillon: Bright straw colour. The wine was closed tight at first from being chilled, but gradually opened up enough to be much more complex and youthful than the Lindemans, grassy/pithy at first, then wonderfully nutty. The best of the whites, this is still a little between phases and needs more time to develop.

1996 Domaine Henri Clerc Grand Cru, Chevalier Montrachet: Dark gold colour. Glorious bouquet of sweet lemon/a little orange peel and very rich, hazelnut/vanilla cheesecake. Creamy/vanillin entry followed by tangy lemon and mouthwatering vanilla, dropping away mid-palate to leave some coffee grounds and a slender, lingering finish. Very good at first, but it deteriorated in the glass too quickly: I really expected a lot more from this Grand Cru Burgundy.

1978 Santa Margherita Pinot Nero, Dell Alto Adige: Pale to mid brick. Amazingly still vaguely resembling Pinot, lightweight with gamey/very tangy strawberry jam, coffee and also some smoky/metallic characters that mercifully didn’t go over the top. Very drinkable but only just hanging in there – looks like we tried this just in time.

1999 Hardy’s Tintara Reserve Grenache: Very dark red. Still very young and fresh with slurpy, sweet blueberry/black cherry fruit and lots of milled black pepper that intensifies with breathing. Surprisingly good, especially compared to the disappointing Reserve Shiraz from the same vintage.

1998 d’Arenberg Dead Arm Shiraz: Very inky crimson. Open, sweet and porty nose of black liquorice/star anise, black cherries then blackberries, boiled lollies, roast coffee/leather and milk chocolate. The palate’s only medium-weight and is very sweet like the nose, with loads of mint and pepper thrown in for good measure. This is drinking well and is consistent with a bottle a few months ago, although its distinct lack of palate weight/structure compared to Barossa equivalents was highlighted again.

2002 Elderton Barossa Shiraz: Dark, earthy, plummy fruit with hints of dark chocolate and petroleum surfacing with breathing; the palate’s weightier, darker and more savoury than the Dead Arm, with some tomato skin and a very long, chocolaty finish, although there’s also a little minty alcohol poking out on the end. While the Dead Arm is more complex, I was left with the impression there’s more grunt and more potential in this one.

1998 Primo Estate Moda Cabernet Sauvignon Merlot: Glorious, inky red. The merlot seems a little more prominent this time around; the wine’s soft, round, earthy and meaty with loads of dark chocolate and cloves, the big chewy tannins kicking in mid-palate leaving a stunningly long, chewy finish. Much better than my last bottle a few years ago, and still with massive potential; the first of a glorious trio of reds that blew everyone away.

1990 Wynns Coonawarra Estate John Riddoch Cabernet Sauvignon: Very inky crimson/purple. Very complex nose with all the right JR characters, yet like the colour it has a youthful zing that blatantly defies its eighteen years of age; cassis/black coal backed by creamy vanillin oak with touches of capsicum, peppermint, banana skin and petroleum. The full-weight palate’s just as exotic and sweet, thunderous black cherries/blackcurrants with some banana leaf and liquorice, leading to an extremely long, grippy finish. By the end of the night we were pretty evenly split between this and the following as WOTN – for me right now this was just edged out but has much more potential, probably twenty years worth on this form. Outstanding.

1990 Penfolds Bin 407 Cabernet Sauvignon: I bought this wine on release fifteen years ago and over that time I’ve heard/read different stories – in contrast to the Penfolds Rewards of Patience which continually called it a drink now/soon prospect, it also had a reputation as a giant-killer and forever youthful Peter Pan in some circles. In the last year I’ve tried the 1991 and 1994 vintages, so serving it blind as a head-to-head comparison with the John Riddoch was too good to resist; still a youthful, dark to inky crimson colour. At first the nose screams out the limestone coast with minty/menthol, capsicum, white pepper, a little ashtray and earthy/chalky and powerful blackcurrants; against the JR it’s warmer and incredibly complex, chocolaty and soupy with honeycomb, a little sour mash, jus and tobacco. The palate’s even more impressive, jubey/earthy blackcurrant fruit with hints of liquorice and menthol, medium-weight but the balance is absolutely stunning, the finish extremely long with thick, grainy tannins encased in sweet, dark fruit. Tonight the giant-killer tag is justified – a good deal better than the 1991 and 1994 vintages, and there’s absolutely no sign of it falling over in a hurry either.

2008 Winter Creek Vintage Port (barrel sample): Even right out of the barrel this has all the goodies of the previous vintages, thick, creamy fruit choc-full of liquorice and funky brandy spirit. While it won’t see the light of day for another three years and realising it’s gross infanticide, it’s still remarkable just how approachable this VP is – in light of recent events it mightn’t pay to publicly call it ‘ready-to-drink’ though! :wink:


Cheers
Ian
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I've been encouraged to say more on the forum re our friday night wines. So these are impressions of some memorable wines. Many
thanks to everyone for sharing such interesting bottles its very much appreciated.

Generally I prefer cabernet and pinot and then shiraz, while grenache rarely gets a look in. So I'm trying hard to find out a bit more about this variety. Mclaren vale sems to have a good reputation for grenache and the 99 Tintara didn't disappoint as it was mid weight and had more complexity and interest without the sweet musk and turkish delight flavours I've previosly experienced. It has aged well and still has potential for a little longer.

The white burgundy was an intriguing wine that grew on me. Was it a bit forward? It seemed a fairly deep yellow but the range of flavour and its intensity really appealed. Have got to try more.

The three cabernets were great. Normally the Primo would be a standout but the Riddoch and the 407 were superlative, shading out the excellent Primo. I worked my way through a case of 90 black label thoroughly enjoying them but always feeling I hadn't seen the full flowering of wynns 90 cabernet -until this wine was poured. Balanced complex and full of fruit flavour with a way to go.
I tried the 407 just after release and enjoyed it as perhaps the best 407 I've tried but what a one off special it has become. I found it a bit freaky so fresh and identifiably the cabernet I associate with coonawarra but with something more. Perhaps its the result of the multi region blending?
Am I the only person who seems to have tasted lots of not very impressive penfolds only to be knocked over by the quality of a few like this 407? In the end I put both the riddoch and the 407 on pedastels different but both fantastic.
thanks everyone, regards chris

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ck wrote:The white burgundy was an intriguing wine that grew on me. Was it a bit forward? It seemed a fairly deep yellow but the range of flavour and its intensity really appealed. Have got to try more.


Thanks for sharing your impressions Chris.

The white burgundy was attractive enough at first, but also looked very advanced - I kept some in a glass to the side when we moved on to the reds, and it deteriorated badly over that time. It's a bit of a contrast to the relatively unknown 1983 Bachelet Premier Cru Puligny Montrachet we tried at an offline last year which was much more impressive with an additional 13 years of age - going on this form this Grand Cru hasn't a hope of matching that.

A lot's been said about the random premature oxidation issues of a number white burgundies for the 1996 vintage (and some surrounding vintages too). The suspected theories range from bad corks (treated with hydrogen peroxide) and some winemakers misreading the strength of the vintage and overworking wines with too much battonage and/or not adding enough sulphur. After many years of heated discussion between different experts, there still isn't a definite consensus why this has occurred.

If you do a google search on 'oxidised white burgundies' you should bring up a number of threads that make interesting and rather disturbing reading on this issue. There's also a resource now where people are recording what wines have been duds or okay, and if you're considering taking a stab on white burgundy it's defintely worth a look:
http://oxidised-burgs.wikispaces.com/

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Ian
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Nice notes Ian! Sounds like you guys had a great time. I've had two of the three bottles that I was supposed to bring and here is what you missed:

1998 Penfolds 98A Reserve Bin Chardonnay
Suspicious dark yellow colour. Poured quite cold. The nose began buttery and nutty, but went more and more towards rancio/port as the wine warmed up. The palate showed what I saw coming - a brutally oxidized wine. I almost couldn't finish half a glass. The acid was nice and lingering though. But.....what a waste of money. Btw, the cork was in perfect shape and no leakage could be seen. The tasting note by Halliday suggested drinking window ->2008. I think not (unless it was a dud).

1998 Baileys of Glenrowan 1904 Block Shiraz
Dark red with brown edges. Nose of barnyard, old leather and some forest floor. No fruitiness left, just aromas reflecting old age (well...is 10 years old for a shiraz of this caliber?). The palate was not good. Nice in front, but faded quickly and felt very dried out on the finish. Not especially enjoyable. I was very disappointed with this wine. Waste of money again. Halliday praised this wine and claimed this would drink to 2018. I disagree. Again the cork was in tact and showing no sign of leakage.

Now I only have the Jeanneret left. I truly hope it will prove better than the ones above. I'm also happy that you guys didn't have to taste these disappointing wines.

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Gustav wrote:1998 Penfolds 98A Reserve Bin Chardonnay
Suspicious dark yellow colour. Poured quite cold. The nose began buttery and nutty, but went more and more towards rancio/port as the wine warmed up. The palate showed what I saw coming - a brutally oxidized wine. I almost couldn't finish half a glass. The acid was nice and lingering though. But.....what a waste of money. Btw, the cork was in perfect shape and no leakage could be seen. The tasting note by Halliday suggested drinking window ->2008. I think not (unless it was a dud).


I'd say it was representative and not a faulty bottle. Last month I was looking at both the Reserve Bin 98A & 00A at auction, and asked Jason Barette at Penfolds who was at the Rewards of Patience tasting last year what he thought. He said the 00A was drinking very nicely but was at its peak, and the 98A was well past it; I bought the 00A and passed on the 98A - our experiences seem to confirm his advice.

Cheers,
Ian
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