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Its Sunday and that slack Brian in not doing his new job..

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so I had better kick things off for the last time.

Let us know what you have been drinking; lists vibes or TN's welcome.
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Hoddles Creek Chardonnay 2006
Refined, slightly unripe peaches, cashews and hints of orange and lemon. For the price, this is a class act and is reminiscent of wines twice it's price. A couple of weeks ago I enjoyed every last drop of a Voyager Estate 02 Chardonnay and this was reminiscent whilst not quite as stellar. Pleased to be sitting on a few of these.

Wynns Cabernet Sauvignon 1996
Still pretty fresh, medium - dark red in appearance. Specific leafy cabernet nose with hints of mint and menthol and a lovely fine grained palate, tannins dropped to support levels and loads of fruit with just a hint of a brandy-ish character. Medium bodied by definition, this will improve but I think it's pretty handy at this stage of it's life.

A bit fragile compared to the next two.

Katnook Estate Shiraz 2004
Menthol, eucalypt and loads of plummy fruit. Don't remember much more but I liked this a lot, very balanced.

Pertaringa Over The Top Shiraz 2005
Over the top, indeed. A full bodied McLaren Vale bomb of a wine, blinding fruit, interlocked with rounded tannins and oak. Velvety and delicious.
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1976 Lagrange (St Julien, Bdx)
In summary, over the hill

In detail:
From a recent auction. Level a decent high shoulder, bottle significantly bin-soiled (this the worst bottle of the lot with label missing completely). Some evidence of leakage at top of cork, which with some encouragement came out in one piece, soaked the full length.

Colour is a reasonably bright slightly tawny claret, relatively weak at the rim.

Dominant mushroom aroma, with a faint whiff of coffee, with little change on swirling. The only fruit aroma is a background raspberry scent.

Little fruit left on the palate and to be truthful not much complexity. Acidity is nicely weighted and the net result is light & refreshing with a faint earthiness, but without anything to get at all excited over. Drinkable, but fading away for sure.

UPDATE: The night after (the half left in the bottle, simply recorked). On removing the cork, certainly more fruit. Still pretty lean and the touch of coffee/earthiness on the finish. Just a touch more fruit helps the balance though and it went very nicely with a smoked pheasant, salami & mushroom risotto. More enjoyable than just drinkable tonight.
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Richmond Grove Watervale Riesling 2004 - This went extremely well with my Tom yung goong, lovely refreshing slice of lime minerality running through the wine. Drinking superbly now, very good.

G.H. Mumm Cordon Rouge Brut NV - Very noice.

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Ha, ha, you are back ahead of me again.

I don't need the pressure, that's why I retired, I suggest that whoever (not just Ric or I) feels the need to unburden their drinking excesses for the week should start the post.

My week started with a flight of Rutherglen Durif, 94, 98, 2001 Morris and 2002, 2005, 2006 Rutherglen Estates. I was a little surprised when the shiraz-slutty group preferred the older and old-style earthy Morris offerings to the younger fruit-driven Rutherglen Estates. Even the person who usually shuns older reds picked the 94 Morris as his favourite, a lovely wine right at peak drinking.

I popped the cork on a Hanging Rock Heathcote Shiraz 2002 to see how it is going, it was a Diam, they must have been an early-adopter. This wine has serious structure to go with perfectly ripe fruit and should cellar for another 10 years or more, although at one stage the acid seemed a little prominent. There is still some of this ex-HFW "investment" stock going for around $25-$30.

After a bit of a worryingly apricotty start, I also enjoyed the Willunga 100 Shiraz-Viognier 2005, with food it was pretty seamless and the apricot character receded. Very approachable and delicious now, James Halliday has more trust than me in suggesting it would drink well until 2020.

Friday night with Oysters then home-cooked Flathead fillets and chips there was a Henriet-Bazin Blanc de Noirs NV and a Seppelt Silverband Sparkling Shiraz NV, both slipping down all to easily.
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Brian
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2006 Kooyong Clonale Chardonnay
Sealed with Diam. Very light colour. Lovely bouquet of hay, smoke, mealy notes. Very light, balanced palate - almost racy. All up a lovely burgundy looking light chardonnay. Very good.

2005 Bodega Castano Monastrell
Black rubber cork. Meaty nose that I find typical of mataro. Blackberry on nose and palate with an extracted almost bitter depth but in a good way. Good flavours but finishes short. However, I think if they sealed this with something else I may not have noticed a slight but distinct smell of rubber! :oops: Still good though.

Also a 2004 Domaine du Chene Cote du Rhone that was sealed under stelvin and was horribly reductive and only slightly blew off after several hours in the decanter. I was hoping a forward looking flying winemaker from Oz made this but it seems while they thought screwcap was the go they didn't know how to prepare the wine for bottling.

And a couple earlier on this week.

2003 Chapoutier Les Meysoniers Crozes Hermitage
Dark garnet colour. A nose of white pepper and raspberries with cream. Plush palate for a crozes. Nice firm structure despite the vintage conditions and lovely with chicken stuffed with mushroom duxelles on truffled cauliflower puree Very good wine and it is so approachable now I would drink over the next few years.

2002 Lillypilly Noble blend
Picked up for a very reasonable price at auction. This was the first vintage that was under screwcap. A mid gold colour and immediate notes of tropical fruits leap out of the glass. Huge ripe palate with dominant notes of mango but finishes with only reasonable acidity that was slightly unbalanced. Late picked and the botrytis is in check (very little bitterness). Tasted balanced well chilled and improved on the second day. Good when cool and Very good when cold. Went well with fig and rosewater tart.

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Red Bigot wrote:My week started with a flight of Rutherglen Durif, 94, 98, 2001 Morris and 2002, 2005, 2006 Rutherglen Estates. I was a little surprised when the shiraz-slutty group preferred the older and old-style earthy Morris offerings to the younger fruit-driven Rutherglen Estates. Even the person who usually shuns older reds picked the 94 Morris as his favourite, a lovely wine right at peak drinking.

Brian
Would be interested in your view on the 2002 Rutherglen Estates Durif, as I bought two bottles solely on a positive Halliday review (and his assertion it was a genuine cellar prospect) and the price meaning it was a low risk gamble.
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Ian,

Both I and the grouped ranked this 4th of 6, just after the 2005 Rutherglen Estates. I bought this a couple of years ago to put in a tasting and it got lost until now, so I didn't actually try it on release. It seemed slightly leaner than the sweet-fruited 2005 and 2006, it's 14.0% a/v where the other two are 14.5%, so picked slightly earlier. The 2006 is outrageously sweet-fruited, it won a Bronze at the NWS, the 2005 fruit-sweet but less overt, the 2002 could be just showing how it develops in another 3 years.

To actually answer your question, the 2002 is in no danger of falling apart and although it will never be a really great wine it should cellar Ok for another 5 years, and may end up being a quite interesting wine then. I'm not sure about the JH 2017, he's getting as bad as JO with his long drinking windows.
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Holloway Road Cab Sauv 04 - this little pearler is made from fruit sourced from the limestone coast region and is bottled for the Aldi chain of supermarkets. Purple red in colour and a very lush palate without being over the top with sweetness and at sub $20 price tag bargain.

Houghtons Margaret River Cab Sauv 01 - drinking superbly now not as rich as the above mentioned wine but shows the developed characters of the variety excellent

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Firstly apologies for not replying to a couple of replies from last weekend. I just had not been on the Net all week.

1995 Hardys Tintara McLaren Vale Grenache : excellent deep Grenache - mature sweet fruit , lovely texture. A pleasure to drink.

2005 Barratt The Bonython Pinot Noir Piccadilly Valley Adelaide Hills
( $ 23 )
: soft and gentle Pinot - went well with duck , flounder , pork belly , greens and rice at T Chow.

2006 Parish Hill Vermentino Uraidla Adel Hills ( $25 ) : fresh reasonably restrained white wine. Good.

1984 Cape Mentelle Margaret River Cabernet Sauvignon : healthy brick red colour. Had most of the good things you look for in aged cabernet - viz. cedar , tobacco , along with that clean finish nice 12% wines provide. Very good. I've had quite a few Australian reds from the 1980's this year and just about liked them all - I did not find them overly green at all - although perhaps I have a greater tolerance for a bit of leanness than others ?

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Hi all,

2006 Turkey Flat Rose- Not sweet lollie water, but not that interesting either. Maybe I'm just not a rose fan. Isn't this one of the better roses around?

2007 Brookland Valley Verse 1 Semillon Sav Blanc- Lifted floral notes with moderate grassy undertones, crisp and light. Quite agreeable.

2004 Brand's Liara Cabernet Sauvignon- Distinctive minty coonawarra nose, decent berry fruits, and medium length. Reasonable quaffer.

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Much beer at xmas parties but for dinner last night opened a

Marius Shiraz 2003
Took about an hour in the decanter to open up but my it was lovely when it did. Yvette made a comment that summed it up well. Very rich without any porty characters. This is still mostly primary but I think will develop nicely in the next 3-4 years excellent stuff.

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Pikes Eastside Shiraz 2004
How appropriate... distinctive Christmas cake spice nose, all five spice, cinnamon and cloves rather and a supercharged slipstream of roasted plums. This is kind of like a pinot gone to the darkside. Heavy handed all up but pleasingly tidy.
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monghead wrote:Hi all,

2006 Turkey Flat Rose- Not sweet lollie water, but not that interesting either. Maybe I'm just not a rose fan. Isn't this one of the better roses around?

Cheers,

Monghead


I've enjoyed Turkey Flat Rose in the past but I reckon Teusner Salsa 2007 is the best I've tried with great depth of flavour and a longish finish.

Cheers

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We've had some friends over from Norway so the last couple of days have been pretty busy with visiting wineries and eating good food accompanied with good wine. I have been lazy with writing tasting notes, so mostly impressions noted.

Wines I've drunk the last couple of weeks:
Petaluma Hanlin Hill Riesling 2007
Fantastic stuff! Very fresh and livey. Great concentration (unmatched so far for my tastings of Aussie reislings). Citrus fruit and freshness going on for ages.
Wirra Wirra Lost Watch Reisling 2007
Think I've posted notes on this before.
Curly Flat Pinot Noir 2004
Aromas of berries, flavours of strawberry, good structure and tannins, but still too young I guess.
Geoff Merril Pinot Noir 1999
Faulty – dirty and earthy. Undrinkable.
Grant Burge Filsell Barossa Valley Shiraz 2004
Dark cherries and subtle oak on nose, mouthfilling palate with good structure. Very good!
Mitchell Clare Valley Pepper Tree Shiraz 2005
Spicy nose, some liquorice. Delicate palate with good fruityness and hints of cracked pepper (the pepper tree :)). Nice “cooler style” shiraz – good value IMO.

Tasted
Olssen of Watervale
Kevin Olssen and his daughter were presenting the Olssen wines at Edinburgh Cellars last saturday. What impressed me the most were the Riesling (lime aromas, a hint of petroleum (?) good concentration, impeccable balance), late harvest Riesling (very refined and delicate) and the Cab S, Merlot, Cab F & Petit Verdot blend (rather complex nose of dark fruit, some mint, good structure and fine tannins). The Carménère was also very interesting as it's a variety I've never tried before. I thought it was very reminiscent of Cab Sav.

D'Arenberg
At D'Arenberg we tasted 12 different I was not impressed by any of the D'Arenberg wines. The “icon” wines were promising, but far to young for my taste (all 2005 vintage). The “Dead Arm” Shiraz '05 was the highlight, but did not impress. Mabye and earlier vintages would have done the icon wines more justice? My favourite white was the Noble Riesling, which was very delicious, giving long lasting dried fruit flavours.

Winter Creek
David at Winter Creek kindly invited us to taste his range of wines, including the newly bottled Baossa Old Blend Grenache Shiraz 2005. The Winter Creek wines are in general fruit driven and beautifully restrained in style (except the wonderfully hedonistic fortified shiraz flavour bomb), which again is reflected by David's winemaking style and the fact that the vinyards lie in the cooler part of Barossa Valley. The general favourite was the '05 Shiraz, but it was also very interesting to taste the '04 Grenache Shiraz vs. the '05 of the same wine. The 04 had a purple hue, was elegant and had definitive raspberry aroma and flavour. Det '05 had denser colour, in the more clear red range. The wine was more concentrated as well with more weight on the palate, but still showing the rasberry characteristics. The '06 Shiraz Reserve is being bottled soon – looking very much forward to tasting that wine! Thanks very much for the friendliness and great tasting David!

Saltram
I tasted the Mamre Brook range and was quite pleased with what I tasted (forgot to note the vintages - sorry). The Cab Sav was my favourite (very pleasant with lovely varietal characters). Tried the Mr. Pickwick Tawny Port which was brilliant! Toffee all the way home. I was a bit disappointed that none of the premier wines were on free tasting. Not even No. 1...We also had lunch at Salters Kitchen which was excellent (except the sirloin).

Yalumba
Very nice tasting room and good and friendly staff. We tasted the Pewseyvale and Heggies '07 Reislings, which both were very good. Personally I preferred the Pewseyvale. We tasted a selection of the reds, including the sparkling red 'D which I still found fantastic. My favourite of the reds was the Menzies Coonawarra Cab. Sav. '04, which I consistently find to be one of my favourite Australian Cabs in that price range. We also got to taste the award winning Hand Picked Shiraz Viognier. However, the Shiraz Viognier mix is generally not to my liking, thus no success with me. My wife loved it though :)
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Pirathon Shiraz 2005
A full bodied wine, a real mouthful, dark purple in colour. Needs a great deal of cellaring for my taste. Good robust Cork. Cellar 5-7 years

Turkey Flat Rose 2007
One of my favorites.. say no more

Majella Mellody Rose 2007
Strawberry colour, a dry style, medium weight. I though it was fairly good

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2007 Jacobs Creek Riesling

Bloody nice wine for the price, drink this sh^t all day if you desire. what a bargain!!!

2005 Schild Estate Merlot

One of your closest family friends has be locked up for a serious crime? looking for a something to ease the situation?...well...this is a delight. concentrated dark fruits, full bodied, lovely cimmanon, nutmeg aromats/palate...drink this all night / day, lovely finish, very very good drink now proposition, and also short to medium term. VERY GOOD!
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mattECN wrote:2007 Jacobs Creek Riesling

Bloody nice wine for the price, drink this sh^t all day if you desire. what a bargain!!!

2005 Schild Estate Merlot

One of your closest family friends has be locked up for a serious crime? looking for a something to ease the situation?...well...this is a delight. concentrated dark fruits, full bodied, lovely cimmanon, nutmeg aromats/palate...drink this all night / day, lovely finish, very very good drink now proposition, and also short to medium term. VERY GOOD!
8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)


With ya on the JC riesling 07, I've posted somewhere about it too. I'll have to see if there's any 2006 left at the barn - Halliday rated it 94/100.

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2007 Leo Buring Eden Valley Riesling: limey, mineraly and touches of florals. Nice summer quaffing over Chinese dumplings.

NV Larmandier-Bernier Champagne Brut Tradition 1er cru: super stuff - lemons, minerals, some brioche and plenty of length and finesse.

1998 Mount Pleasant Elizabeth Semillion: waxy lime and lemon with hints of nutiness and toast. Quite well rounded with a nice splash of acid on the finish.

2005 Quinta do Crasto Old Vines Reserva: warm, rich fruited juicy wine with fine tannins and some touches of spice. Great balance between rich fruit and structure.

1998 Wynns John Riddoch Cab Sav: classic Coonawarra Cab Sav just entering its drinking window. Plenty of sweet cassis like fruit and underlying dried herbs and earthiness. Needs more time.
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Mc Lean’s Farm 2003 Trinity Corner Shiraz.
Not a heavy wine but well balanced. A blend of oak and fine tannins suggest this wine still has a year or two potential, but drinking well now. - It was enjoyed enough that I went and bought another couple of cases to put down for a year or two. - The bad news is the rest of the stock were apparently cleared to a wine club
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and some more to round out the weekend...

Grosset Picaddilly Chardonnay 2003
A little bit of colouring but still rather austere, a generous squeeze of lemon and lime juices and some of the bitter rinds, with a fragrance of peach and a slightly nutty complexity. The distinguishing feature was the obvious, tobacco-ey oak which imparted a slight imbalance and bitterness. All in all though, a drying, refreshing wine, best exercised with some moderation.

Kabminye Schliebs Block 2004
Not quite as memorable as the previous bottle but maybe the multi-course Indian takeaway banquet was a factor here. Smoked meats, edgy, savoury elements and a decent lick of oak and berry fruit. Hard to pick it as a Rhone blend though but again, maybe that's the curry talking.
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Just vibes as don't have the time for detailed notes:

97 Seaview Pinot Chardonnay Sparkling Lovely and much better than the last bottle a couple of weeks ago. Fresh and mature at the same time.

NV Lanson Better than the last bottle but I though the Seaview better, which is pretty surprising! Not as much lemon as the last bottle of this I tried. Pretty good.

NV Jacobs Creek sparkling something Very fruity after the previous two. Felt very young and coarse.

07 Rockford Alicant Bouchet First out of the box. Not as fresh as I was expecting. Still lovely as always but just not the vibrancy I was expecting.

NV Janz Very good and very friendly. Went down very well on the balcony at Quay.

07 Dominique Portet Savignon Blanc Definitely prefer the NZ savvies. Lovely nose but just a bit heavy on the palate and a slightly bitter finish. It's just not that explosion of flavour you get from NZ.

04 Katnook Estate Cabernet Savignon Lovely wine. Chocolate bluberries with a lovely depth and texture. Very good indeed and years ahead.
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