Howdy All,
Have just started to try the Turkey Flat range after reading some great reviews of this winery. Bought some bottles of the Turkey Flat 2005 Butcher's Block Red and a bottle of the 2005 Shiraz. I tried the Butchers Block last week and was very impressed. Is their any better year/s in these two wines or are they just all good. I also have a bottle of the 2004 Grenache which I cant wait to try. It just looks as if Turkey Flat only produce quality.
Cheers
Leigh
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Mike Hawkins
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This is my first post in this forum, so hello to everyone. Which vintage is better in the Turkey Flat Shiraz - 04 or 05? I tend to prefer the 04's in other wines but I hear the 05 Turkey Flat Shiraz is magnificent. Anyone?
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Dr - 307 wrote:This is my first post in this forum, so hello to everyone. Which vintage is better in the Turkey Flat Shiraz - 04 or 05? I tend to prefer the 04's in other wines but I hear the 05 Turkey Flat Shiraz is magnificent. Anyone?
Hi. I'm new also. I love TF wine, I have been buying a dozen mixed reds from TF for severals years 02 or 03 and I haven't tasted anything but very good wines. My favourite so far is the 02 shiraz, 01 was close behind. 01 Cab Sav was closed so I think it needs more time. I have 01 to 05 shiraz & CS plus Butchers Block and the grenache. Having said all that I will not think of opening the 04 or 05 for 4 or 5 years. To compound things Peter Shultz has introduced the mouvedre
Hi,
I tried them all a few weeks ago and loved every wine.
Ive ordered the missus a carton of the 2007 Rose and a magnum of the 2005 Shiraz.
Love their Butchers Block and 05 is a great year for them in my opinion.
I tried them all a few weeks ago and loved every wine.
Ive ordered the missus a carton of the 2007 Rose and a magnum of the 2005 Shiraz.
Love their Butchers Block and 05 is a great year for them in my opinion.
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Dr - 307 wrote:Good enough for me Billmac. I prefer the 2004 vintage in most wines anyway from that way so I'll take the 4 my merchant has aside for me. 1 for tonights game and 3 for later on once they're truly ready.
Cheers,
Dr - 307.
Take your pick...They are both excellent.
2004 TF Shiraz
WFM
Turkey Flat Barossa Valley Shiraz 2004 ($45):
If you like Turkey Flat shiraz, you have to buy this. It's a stunning Barossan wine. The oak's low but the fruit is pure, ripe, slinky and soft, with force and smoothness to the black, inky, brilliant fruit. Descriptors: blackberries, plums, coal, earth, sundry herbs, VA and brandy, with the lightest, slightest vanillin smear as it rushes across your tongue. It finishes pure and perhaps a touch warm, but the sheer concentration of old-vine fruit, largely unadulterated by oak, shoots it direct into the A-league. I am impressed. Released in July 2006. Drink: 2006-2017. 93 points.
This wine is the darling of Australian - read Barossa Valley - Shiraz. It is, and always has been, more about elegance than power, more about richness and complexity than simplicity and always about incredible value. It is probably best summed up by one of its biggest fans in James Halliday who wrote "I simply don't understand why this wine, made from some of the oldest shiraz vines in the world (dating back to 1847) continues to be available at $45. So long as it is, it has a permanent position in the Top 100". 2004: As complex and elegant as ever, notwithstanding higher than usual alcohol; gently spicy blackberry and blood plum fruit; fine tannins, fine French oak. Rating: 95 points. Drink: 2019. James Halliday Wine Companion 2007
Winestar
A typical modern ultra-ripe wine whose heady, wild and briary aromas of deep dark berry and plum-like fruit are backed by meaty, very spicy and treacle-like undertones of raisins, prunes and currants. It’s a little sweet and spirity, packed with luscious, slightly shrivelled but not overcooked flavours, with undertones of bitumen and a pleasingly firm grip. (Barossa Valley, $45 retail, approx., 17.3/90, drink 2012-2016)
Kemenys Rating : 95/100
Tasting Note :
This is a firmly structured, elegant shiraz, with lifted ‘primary’ fruit aromas of red current and plum and ‘secondary’ aromas of bitter chocolate, black pepper, aniseed and suede. The full bodied palate has flavours of plums, red fruits, cedar, which will improve with careful cellaring of up to ten years.
The Turkey Flat Vineyard boasts some of the oldest Shiraz vines in the world. Planted in 1847, these hard-working gnarled old vines are still producing fantastic grapes. They are dry grown with their roots extending metres into the soil in search of moisture. Much of the credit for the best Shiraz made in the Barossa is due to old vines such as these. The fact that these vines still exist is largely due to a far-sighted quarantine scheme, in which SA was spared the phylloxera outbreak which devastated the vineyards of Europe, America and subsequently parts of Australia in the late 1800’s.
Each small parcel of Shiraz was vinified separately and matured in French oak barrels. The result is a firmly structured, elegant Shiraz, with lifted ‘primary’ fruit aromas of red current and plum and ‘secondary aromas’ of dark bitter chocolate, black pepper, aniseed and suede. The full-bodied palate has flavours of plums, red fruits and cedar, which will improve with careful cellaring of up to 10 years.
Peter Schulz
Harvested- March & April 2004
Maturity At Harvest- 15.0° Baumé
Yeast Type- L2056 Cote du Rhone isolate
Fermentation Temp- 18° to 28°C
Time On Skins- 10 to 14 days
MLF- spontaneous in barrels
Oak Treatment- 23 months maturation in new & seasoned French oak hogsheads
Bottled- December 2005
Colour- deep purple
Nose- dark berry fruits, blackberries, dark cherries, plums, & black pepper
Palate- rich, persistent & concentrated with flavours of blackberry, plums, dark bitter chocolate & cedar with a fine, grape tannin finish
Cellar- up to 10 years
Alcohol- 15.0%
2005 TF Shiraz
The Turkey Flat Vineyard boasts some of the oldest Shiraz vines in the world. Planted in 1847, these hard-working gnarled old vines are still producing fantastic grapes. They are dry grown with their roots extending metres into the soil in search of moisture.
Much of the credit for the best Shiraz made in the Barossa is due to old vines such as these. The fact that these vines still exist is largely due to a far-sighted quarantine scheme, in which South Australia was spared the phylloxera outbreak which devastated the vineyards of Europe, America and subsequently parts of Australia in the late 1800’s. The 2005 vintage was generally mild with a long ripening period. A slightly warmer than the previous vintage, 2005 Shiraz is rich and dense. Extended time on skins has resulted in a firm tannin structure ensuring that this wine will improve with careful cellaring of up to 10 years. Peter Schulz
The Wine
Harvested - March & April 2005
Maturity At Harvest - 15.0° Baumé
Yeast Type - Various, L2056, L2226, D254, EC1118
Fermentation Temp - 18° to 28°C
Time On Skins - 10 to 21 days
MLF - spontaneous in barrels
Oak Treatment - 23 months maturation in new & seasoned French oak hogsheads
Bottled - January 07
Colour - deep purple
Nose - dark berry fruits, blackberries, kalamata olives, plums, & black pepper
Palate - rich, persistent & concentrated with flavours of blackberry, plums, dark bitter chocolate & cedar with a fine, grape tannin finish
Cellar - up to 10 years
Alcohol - 14.5%
This wine is the darling of Australian - read Barossa Valley - Shiraz. It is, and always has been, more about elegance than power, more about richness and complexity than simplicity and always about incredible value. It is probably best summed up by one of its biggest fans in James Halliday who wrote "I simply don't understand why this wine, made from some of the oldest shiraz vines in the world (dating back to 1847) continues to be available at $45. So long as it is, it has a permanent position in the Top 100".
Cut from the same mold as the 2004, the spectacular 2005 Shiraz exhibits an inkier purple color as well as a deeper, richer, more nuanced style. Cropped at .8 tons of fruit per acre, which no doubt accounts for its awesome concentration, it is even better than the 2004, and should be longer lived, evolving for 15 or more years. Drink 2006 - 2021 Wine Advocate # 16; Oct 2006 Robert Parker 95/100
This is an exceptionally loose-knit wine. It's almost a tannin-free zone. It's all about sweet, ripe, almost flacid fruit, flavours of blackberries, raisins and cola the order of the day. With time in the glass some kind of structure does appear, and throughout there's quite a bit of nervy acidity. Apart from the (high) ripeness level, it seems quite a different style to the Turkey Flat wines of the past - an easier-drinking style, with less oak influence. Whether or not it's a change for the better will probably only be determined in seven or eight years. Drink: 2008-2018. 90 points. Campbell Mattinson, The Wine Front
WNY 7/07
Turkey Flat Shiraz Barossa Valley
Rating: Very Good to Excellent
Drink From: 2008-2017
JH
Bright purple-red; replete with dark fruits ranging through blackberry, plum, prune and a dash of licorice; very focused and controlled; no artifice or exaggeration, simply classic restraint. Cork. 14.5% alc. Rating 95/100. To 2020 - James Halliday Australian Wine Companion 2008
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seddo wrote:Had a 01 Turkey Flat shiraz a couple of weeks ago and for what was deemed a so so vintage this was an absolute blinder of a wine with all those dark delicious berry flavours - can't wait to try the better vintages and I might purchase some more of the 01
cheers
Seddo
99 and 01 were both very enjoyable but I think 99 is one of TF's best.
daz
From the Latest Mailout from Turkey Flat
NV SPARKLING CHARDONNAY $27
2007 BUTCHERS BLOCK WHITE $18
2007 ROSE $18
2006 GRENACHE $22
2006 BUTCHERS BLOCK RED $22.50
2005 MOURVEDRE (6 LIMIT) $29
2005 SHIRAZ (12 LIMIT) $40
NV SPARKLING SHIRAZ (6 ) $40
2005 THE LAST STRAW $35
NV PEDRO XIMENEZ $20
NV SPARKLING CHARDONNAY $27
2007 BUTCHERS BLOCK WHITE $18
2007 ROSE $18
2006 GRENACHE $22
2006 BUTCHERS BLOCK RED $22.50
2005 MOURVEDRE (6 LIMIT) $29
2005 SHIRAZ (12 LIMIT) $40
NV SPARKLING SHIRAZ (6 ) $40
2005 THE LAST STRAW $35
NV PEDRO XIMENEZ $20
"A woman drove me to drink, and I'll be a son of a gun but I never even wrote to thank her" WC Fields
rednut wrote:From the Latest Mailout from Turkey Flat
NV SPARKLING CHARDONNAY $27
2007 BUTCHERS BLOCK WHITE $18
2007 ROSE $18
2006 GRENACHE $22
2006 BUTCHERS BLOCK RED $22.50
2005 MOURVEDRE (6 LIMIT) $29
2005 SHIRAZ (12 LIMIT) $40
NV SPARKLING SHIRAZ (6 ) $40
2005 THE LAST STRAW $35
NV PEDRO XIMENEZ $20
No limits on buying in the UK. Managed to pick up 24 of the Mouvedre...
No idea when I'd get to drink it 