A Peek At Your Cellar? Your Top Three Producers!

JamieBahrain · Post by **JamieBahrain** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 6:55 am

Bored in Bahrain. Completely out of wine and thumbing through my cellar records longing for re-supply!

My top three producers in terms of bottle numbers:

1) Henschke- Don't buy that much any more but heavily stocked with their cellar worthy reds and a few whites. I will continue to buy the Johann's Garden as a truely quality wine that is outstanding after a couple of years.

2) Rockford- the obligatory annual BP/Black Bubbles purchase. A bit of their cabernet and riesling too.

3) Craiglee- Try to get the shiraz each year. A preference for the "spicey" vintages. The cabernet aswell. I have their chardonnay too, which i find to be good value and cellarable.

Wishlist- More Margaret River from top producers!

And what are the trio of producers dominating your collections?

Peter H · Post by **Peter H** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 7:33 am

My top three are as follows:

1) Penfolds, which is the largest producer by far, but is reducing as a proportion of the cellar as time goes by.

2) Henschke, I love the Keyneton estate (but is getting a little expensive) and the Riesling.

3) Seppelt, a producer with a diverse range but good in so many... Sparkling Shiraz, Dorrien (which will be sadly missed) St Peters etc.

There are a couple of producers who could easily replace the second and third spots on my list in the near future, as my tastes are moving away from the "commercial" toward more interesting smaller producers.

Peter.

Von Ridler · Post by **Von Ridler** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 7:45 am

My top three.
1. Cullens.
2. Penfolds.
3. Petaluma.
Did have a large number of Leasingham [Classic Clare] but have drunk my way through these, had the last 1994 Classic Clare cab sav last weekend, very enjoryable.

Regards,
Ron.

GraemeG · Post by **GraemeG** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 8:41 am

Perhaps predictably it's

1 Penfolds
2 Wynns
3 Tyrrells

(but the next 3 are Wendouree, Grosset, Mt Mary...!)

cheers,
Graeme

michaelw · Post by **michaelw** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 9:02 am

GraemeG wrote:Perhaps predictably it's

1 Penfolds
2 Wynns
3 Tyrrells

(but the next 3 are Wendouree, Grosset, Mt Mary...!)

cheers,
Graeme

Very close. Mine are

1 Penfolds
2 Wynns
3 Jasper Hill

The next three would be Passing Clouds, Baileys of Glenrowan and Wild Duck Creek (not sure of the order).

Barney · Post by **Barney** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 9:20 am

Top 3 are

-Seppelts, have purchased 12 Great Western/St Peters every year from 1996, also fortifieds.

-Penfolds, same as above but Bin 389, also some 128,28,407, & RWT.

-3rd would be a tie b/w Craiglee & Wynns.

Adair · Post by **Adair** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 9:33 am

Rockford by a long, long way...

then Tyrrell's, Penfolds, Wendouree, and Clonakilla...

then with smatterings of Mount Pleasant and Petaluma...

then the one case or slightly above lots with the likes of Grosset, Cullen, Kilikanoon, Lake's Folly, and Burra Burra (Ashton Hills)...

then heaps of half case down to single bottle lots of icons that I could not afford more, or weird stuff that might never be good, or good drinking wines that need a few years, or stuff that is not exactly my tastes but I needed to have a few in my cellar just in case I like them down the track.

A bit more information than asked but I actually found it interesting to have a look in my cellar speadsheets to find out.

Adair

Geoff · Post by **Geoff** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:04 am

By bottles it's:

Petaluma
Jasper Hill
Rosemount

By wines (including vintage as a differentiator), it's:

Henschke
Penfolds
Petaluma

DJ · Post by DJ » Wed Dec 17, 2003 11:19 am

Penfolds
Noons!

Wynns

Then Turkey Flat, Leasingham, Hardys and lots of bits - but this is all from memory

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 11:35 am

1. Grosset
2. Rockford
3. Clonakilla

Cullen is a close 4th

Mike Hawkins · Post by **Mike Hawkins** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 12:17 pm

1. Penfolds (mainly St Henri, Grange and Bin 28)
2. Rockford
3. Tie between Lindemans, Wynns & Turkey Flat

bacchaebabe · Post by **bacchaebabe** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 12:31 pm

Not entirely sure as my records are very dodgey (ie: largely in my head) but looking around the cellar, there's lots of Mount Mary, Rockford BP, Penfolds and Wynns. The first two mainly because I buy at least one case each year from the mailing list and am not drinking much of it and the others because they are generally so reliable and cover quite a range of wines and styles with penfolds being represented from Grange to Koonunga Hill and every red in the Wynns range over a number of vintages.

Petaluma, Grosset, Richmond Grove watervale riesling, Torbreck, Greenock Creek, Noons and Veritas are also well represented.

George Krashos · Post by **George Krashos** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 1:40 pm

Mine are:

1. Rockford
2. Charles Melton
3. Penfolds (but unlikely to stay at #3 for long ...)

-- George Krashos

Aussie Johns · Post by **Aussie Johns** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 1:49 pm

Australian:
1. Cullen
2. Leasingham
3. Penfolds (but mostly cheap quaffing wines, e.g. Bin 28 )

-those results suprised me. It was worth checking my records

International
1. Clerc Milon
2. Domaine de la Mordoree
3. Marquis d'Angerville

- didn't realise how much clerc I have!!!

TORB · Post by **TORB** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 1:52 pm

I got quite a surprise when i looked at the numbers. :oops:

1. Orlando 5.6% (and its not all Jacobs Creek Shar-don-ay

)
2. Hardy 4.5%
3. Penfolds 3.9%
4. Wynns 3.6%
5. Leasingham 3.4%
6. Kays 3.0%
7. Tim Adams 2.8%
8. Veritas 2.4%
9. Rockford 2.4%
10 Wendouree 2.2%

And then 147 other producers making up the other 66%.

GraemeG · Post by **GraemeG** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 2:17 pm

TORB wrote:I got quite a surprise when i looked at the numbers.

1. Orlando 5.6% (and its not all Jacobs Creek Shar-don-ay )

And then 147 other producers making up the other 66%.

What is a shock is realising how many 'pricey' reds are released under the Orlando label: Lawsons, St Hugo, Jacaranda Ridge, Centenary Hill, Jacobs Creek LR Shz/Cab. No wonder it's the largest single label in the cellar. Perhaps only the Penfolds label runs it close...

cheers,
Graeme

Rory · Post by **Rory** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 2:21 pm

By number of bottles.

1. Wynns
2.Cullen
3. Grosset

By number of vintages...

[b]1.Moss Wood
2.Cullen
3.Wynns

Rory

Pana · Post by **Pana** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 3:29 pm

Seppelt
Orlando
Petaluma

Red Bigot · Post by **Red Bigot** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 5:08 pm

By number of bottles:

1. Dalwhinnie
2. Wendouree
3. Wynns

By value now:

1. Wendouree
2. Dalwhinnie
3. Penfolds

Kieran · Post by **Kieran** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 5:17 pm

By raw number of bottles:

Penfolds
Andrew Harris
maybe Mountadam, Taylors or Knappstein.

By different bottles:

Penfolds
Maling Family
De Bortoli

Kieran

JohnD · Post by **JohnD** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 6:05 pm

1. Penfolds
2. Wynns
3. Hensckhe/Leasingham (both 7.5%)

Craig(NZ) · Post by **Craig(NZ)** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 6:14 pm

1. The great Te Mata Estate
2. The once great Penfolds
3= The once affordable Henschke
3= The once affordable Hardys (yeah and every single bottle is Eileen Shiraz)

C.

Popov · Post by **Popov** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 6:35 pm

Hi All,

By Bottles:
1. Penfolds
2. Craiglee and Kays
3. Wynns
with D'Arenberg, Petaluma & Veritas not far behind.

By Region:
1. Barossa
2. McLaren Vale
3. Coonawarra
with the Clare & Sunbury not far behind.

Cheers
Popov

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 7:08 pm

1. Penfolds
2. Henschke
3. Rockford
4. Wynns

David Lole · Post by **David Lole** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 11:39 pm

Seppelt winning by at least six lengths, with

Tyrell's a solid second, with a fast finishing

Grosset, pipped by a long head, filling the placings.

Surprised the crap out of me!

Now, Martin if you had asked by dollar value, the verdict may have been a little different methinks. Didn't know I have so mush Sellept!

JamieBahrain · Post by **JamieBahrain** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 1:11 am

David-Where is Martin?

Anyway, I will readjust my No 3 Producer to Wendouree. Forgot about the last two vintages.

Interesting reading.

I think I will follow the query with is your cellar in balance? I feel the long maturation required for Wendouree has mine out of balance, aswell as a shortage of cellar worthy whites and pinot.

David Lole · Post by **David Lole** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 1:42 am

Jamie,

Just a cheeky way to get some sort of interaction, my friend. "Bent", is the best way to describe my persona at present. :wink:

"Is your cellar in balance" won't get too many threads from TORB and Red Bigot, no doubt. But a good idea, in any case. I've been working on that premise with mine, for some time now.

Fragrant Harbour's, surely, gotta be closer to Martin than where you were before. Can't wait for you to lob in Canberra for an offline with the local natives, one day, Jamie. :idea:

Red Bigot · Post by **Red Bigot** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 7:00 am

David Lole wrote: "Is your cellar in balance" won't get too many threads from TORB and Red Bigot, no doubt. But a good idea, in any case. I've been working on that premise with mine, for some time now.

David, it all depends on your definition of balance.

In terms of content balance, mine is much more balanced this year, that out-of-balance nearly 1% of whites (excl. sparkling) from last year has been cut in half this year. :-)

In terms of peak drinking balance I have a slight problem coming up in the next few years with more entering the window than I can safely drink, but I'm sure I'll find enough people to help me work through this minor problem.

Ian S · Post by **Ian S** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 7:31 am

Without looking...

Wynn's
Te Mata
Cullen
Penfolds

but in general an eclectic mix as I'm still in sampling mode

Tom A · Post by **Tom A** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 1:38 pm

Using my excel sheet;

Cullen
Grosset
Penfolds

Then as interest I sorted to show:

Margaret River: 19.4%
Clare: 13.9%
Barossa: 11.2%

Cab based wines: 46%
Shiraz: 28%
Riesling: 11.6%

Results = need more sparkling red!

Computers do nothing for productivity.

cheers
TA

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