2003 MP 9 - revisited

[Serge Birbrair]

Marquis Philips

[KMP]

It lost some sharpness over the last 4 months in the bottle and added some roundness. I read some TN's about 2002 and the author noticed just the opposite with 2002. Can 4 months in the bottle be so noticable or am I just "paranoid"?

Probably just paranoid!

First time I've tried this wine.
Marquis Philips Shiraz 9 2003 (McLaren Vale 60%, Padthaway 40%) $35.99USD
Very dark in color, almost purple. Seductive and complex with notes of earth, chocolate, blueberry and smoke. Full bodied with soft silky tannins. Certainly big but not overly bold. A charry bitterness surrounds the palate and lingers on the finish. Developed a pepper note, and what can only be described as a pleasant aroma of soap. A wine of questionable longevity. 2, 2, 4.3, 9.4 = 17.7/20, 88/100, 16% alcohol. Tasted June 4, 2005.

Mike

[Serge Birbrair]

It lost some sharpness over the last 4 months in the bottle and added some roundness. I read some TN's about 2002 and the author noticed just the opposite with 2002. Can 4 months in the bottle be so noticable or am I just "paranoid"?

Probably just paranoid!

First time I've tried this wine.
Marquis Philips Shiraz 9 2003 (McLaren Vale 60%, Padthaway 40%) $35.99USD
A wine of questionable longevity. 2, 2, 4.3, 9.4 = 17.7/20, 88/100, 16% alcohol. Tasted June 4, 2005.

Mike

Mike,
I got different answers from other WS and WT boards, some of them resonance with your observation..

1) Re: Marquis Phillip, "9", 2003, revisited

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Serge, in my experience, big powerful fruit forward monsters can age quite fast. Is this a big, powerful fruit forward monster?



2) 4 months came make significant difference with really young wines

if you think about it, say you have a newly released wine that was just bottled. if the wine was aged a couple years before release (as is common), that 4 months since release is quite a bit of time, relative to the total "life" of the wine (the 1-2 years it was aged). however, you take an older wine in your cellar say from the early mid 90's, that 4 months is a lot smaller % of the wine's "life" than the younger wine - hope that makes sense?

[KMP]

Serge

Its certainly a unique wine in many ways but definitely not a typical Aussie Shiraz. However it is a true fruit bomb. I'm glad I tried it. This is the sort of wine I'd like to see in 3-5 years up against equally big wines with a bit more structure (i.e. more acidity, less alcohol).

Interestingly Parker called it "a classic South Australian Shiraz to enjoy during its first 7-8 years of life." I certainly don't agree on the classic Shiraz bit, and I doubt that it will live 8 years. Although I'm sure there will be a group of folks drinking it in 8 years time and finding developed characters that they like.

Mike

[Serge Birbrair]

Serge

Its certainly a unique wine in many ways but definitely not a typical Aussie Shiraz. However it is a true fruit bomb. I'm glad I tried it. This is the sort of wine I'd like to see in 3-5 years up against equally big wines with a bit more structure (i.e. more acidity, less alcohol).

Interestingly Parker called it "a classic South Australian Shiraz to enjoy during its first 7-8 years of life." I certainly don't agree on the classic Shiraz bit, and I doubt that it will live 8 years. Although I'm sure there will be a group of folks drinking it in 8 years time and finding developed characters that they like.

Mike

Mike, I would never dispute the God himself, my MP changed drastically in 4 months at 54F and I'll never know how it evolves in 8 years....my friends who don't like wine like MP very much and I am a good host

[markg]

Are the MP 2003's still made by Sparky ? Where is the fruit from these days ?

[Chow Chow]

Sparky left Dan Phillips and Henry Drive (Longbottom) after 2003.

Lookout for Postbox 2004 a $15 (15+% bruiser) made by Chris Ringland out of the Longbottom's fruits.

[markg]

Sparky left Dan Phillips and Henry Drive (Longbottom) after 2003.

Lookout for Postbox 2004 a $15 (15+% bruiser) made by Chris Ringland out of the Longbottom's fruits.

Already doing the rounds in Adelaide I think although I haven't tried it myself yet.