The end of the cellar and JIT
The end of the cellar and JIT
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Last edited by Sean on Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:11 am, edited 2 times in total.
Sean,
Loved your notes and thought the post was really interesting. I'm yet to try some of the labels you mentioned, in particular the Hanwood. Will definitely endeavour to do so if I can source the wine (especially at those prices!) here in Christchurch.
The whole Wynns/Southcorp situation seems to resurface in the forum on a regular basis and unfortunately for me, I don't have the wine background to objectively comment on current and previous vintages of Wynns BL Cab Sauv. Like you though, I have older friends and family members (especially an older uncle in his 70's) who swear by the cellaring potential and general drinkability of the Wynns BL CS. It's a shame what business and super companies can do (and I use super there in a size context) and fingers crossed the situation improves, rather than going downhill even further.
Thanks again for the article Sean, keep up the posts.
Loved your notes and thought the post was really interesting. I'm yet to try some of the labels you mentioned, in particular the Hanwood. Will definitely endeavour to do so if I can source the wine (especially at those prices!) here in Christchurch.
The whole Wynns/Southcorp situation seems to resurface in the forum on a regular basis and unfortunately for me, I don't have the wine background to objectively comment on current and previous vintages of Wynns BL Cab Sauv. Like you though, I have older friends and family members (especially an older uncle in his 70's) who swear by the cellaring potential and general drinkability of the Wynns BL CS. It's a shame what business and super companies can do (and I use super there in a size context) and fingers crossed the situation improves, rather than going downhill even further.
Thanks again for the article Sean, keep up the posts.
Max
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Avant d’être bon, un vin doit être vrai
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Avant d’être bon, un vin doit être vrai
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Anonymous wrote:The irony of the Wynns situation is that the BL CS has increased in price and is less frequently discounted during the time that the quality has decreased.
Where's the logic in that?
Its called increasing return to shareholders.
The biggest problem with Wynns was not what Shaw took, it was the condition of the vineyard. Shaw had no influence in the 97 and 98 for example.
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I think for a whole lot of folks out there JIT functions exactly the way Sean's wife uses it. You want a bottle of wine with dinner, or for a night out, you drop by the bottle shop and pick one up. There is supposed to be data out there showing that most wine purchases are consumed within a week, so JIT works for the majority.
Its people like us who put wine in cellars, cupboards etc for years that are in the minority. We are like people who use handkerchiefs to blow our nose and then deposit it all back into our pocket. Most folks just can't see the reason for saving the stuff!
Mike
Its people like us who put wine in cellars, cupboards etc for years that are in the minority. We are like people who use handkerchiefs to blow our nose and then deposit it all back into our pocket. Most folks just can't see the reason for saving the stuff!
Mike
Steady on Mike, I almost sprayed my wine over the screen with your handkerchief analolgy!! I'm still chuckling.
Sean, nice, interesting ramblings, a good read. LIke Brian I couldn't live with a JIT system, I like going down to the cellar and "fondling" a few bottles, it kept me away from the wife way back in married days!
On the Wynns BL Cabernet - they had a great run despite the odd hiccup from the 1970 vintage until 1996. It always had lots of fruit intensity and was always dense in colour. Subsequent releases have been far less inspiring, lighter weight, not opaque in the glass and less cellar worthy.
Remember that this was a label that had a broad cult following for a long time, just about everyone with cellars would buy at least a case each year to stash away. That strong following has probably completely gone now, most people I speak to have bought little since the 1998 vintage and that was bought more in hope than confidence.
But keep watching this space, things are on the big improve at Wynns and I'm sure they'll have the BL back to its former glory within the next couple of releases. Grab some of the 2001 Wynns Harold Block Cabernet, almost John Riddoch quality at around $30.
Sean, nice, interesting ramblings, a good read. LIke Brian I couldn't live with a JIT system, I like going down to the cellar and "fondling" a few bottles, it kept me away from the wife way back in married days!
On the Wynns BL Cabernet - they had a great run despite the odd hiccup from the 1970 vintage until 1996. It always had lots of fruit intensity and was always dense in colour. Subsequent releases have been far less inspiring, lighter weight, not opaque in the glass and less cellar worthy.
Remember that this was a label that had a broad cult following for a long time, just about everyone with cellars would buy at least a case each year to stash away. That strong following has probably completely gone now, most people I speak to have bought little since the 1998 vintage and that was bought more in hope than confidence.
But keep watching this space, things are on the big improve at Wynns and I'm sure they'll have the BL back to its former glory within the next couple of releases. Grab some of the 2001 Wynns Harold Block Cabernet, almost John Riddoch quality at around $30.
Cheers - Steve
If you can see through it, it's not worth drinking!
If you can see through it, it's not worth drinking!
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A great read Sean, it felt a bit like reading Albert Camus' Le Stranger.
Now don't quote me, but "THEY" say:
50% of bottles purchased are consumed within 24 hours and 90% are consumed within 7 days.
Makes sense why so many wines are made for early drinking.
People who keep cellars are truly the minority, but could you imagine what life would be like without that fabulous inner anticipation when you pluck an aged wine out of your cellar that you had forgotten about or have been cellaring and waiting to drink for a few years...........
Now don't quote me, but "THEY" say:
50% of bottles purchased are consumed within 24 hours and 90% are consumed within 7 days.
Makes sense why so many wines are made for early drinking.
People who keep cellars are truly the minority, but could you imagine what life would be like without that fabulous inner anticipation when you pluck an aged wine out of your cellar that you had forgotten about or have been cellaring and waiting to drink for a few years...........