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GraemeG
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TN: Two Hands, 2 top Oz chard, 71 Grange...

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[url=https://www.cellartracker.com/event.asp?iEvent=37989]NOBLEROTTERSSYDNEY - TWO HANDS + SPECIALS - 360 Bar & Dining, Sydney (5/03/2018)[/url]

Gordon generously raided the cellar for a showpiece horizontal tasting of the 2010 Garden Series shirazes from Two Hands, but in the end they were out-shone somewhat by the three extraordinary still wines which preceded them, crowned by a magisterially astonishing 71 Grange.
  • [url=https://www.cellartracker.com/note.asp?iWine ... te=6929836]NV Ruinart Champagne Brut[/url] - France, Champagne
    {cork,12.5%} [Greg] Gorgeous bakery nose. Lots of autolysis character, with a red hint beneath. Strawberry tinge? Very good. The palate is less red than the nose, and also less leesy, with surprisingly fresh medlon-tinged fruit, carried by small/medium-sized delicate bubbles. It’s medium/full-bodied, with high acidity and great presence along the palate, all of which suggests a decent life in the cellar. Medium length finish of great satisfaction.
  • [url=https://www.cellartracker.com/note.asp?iWine ... te=6929837]2010 Giaconda Chardonnay Estate Vineyard[/url] - Australia, Victoria, North East, Beechworth
    {screwcap, 13%} [Gordon] Quite developed nose of nuts, figs, yeast. Still has a hint of sulphur about it, despite the age. The palate is steely and mineral-like, a touch forward on the tongue but with a largely even palate, dry, with a hint of mushrooms (in a good way). A bit more earthy and open and, I dunno, textural, than the following Leeuwin wine. Perhaps more Burgundian, although I’m reluctant to use that term, since these should really be judged on their own merits (and I harbour a personal prejudice that top Oz chardonnay will spank a lot over over-priced Grand Cru Burgs in a way which local pinot won’t do to its red equivalents). This medium-bodied, with an even, medium-long finish of great interest and complexity. Very good, with plenty of life left, and amazingly different to the Margaret River alternative…
  • [url=https://www.cellartracker.com/note.asp?iWine ... te=6929839]2010 Leeuwin Estate Chardonnay Art Series[/url] - Australia, Western Australia, South West Australia, Margaret River
    {screwcap, 14%} [Aaron] …following the Beechworth Giaconda really highlights the stylistic differences in this wine, with its developing nose of peaches and cream araomas, sandalwood oak and all-round richness. The full-bodied palate is polished, with a malo sense of richness (although I gather it sees no secondary ferment), buttery fruit, yet not sweet; it has a savoury core pushing through. But the richness and multi-layered texture is hard to resist, that’s for sure. The peach flavours and beautiful oak combine to seduce, that’s for sure; I alternated between this and the Giaconda, and eventually decided this was just that bit more seductive. Not that the 8 year point is the whole story; it might be different a lustrrum hence. Choose between Beethoven sonatas, that’s what you’re doing here.
  • [url=https://www.cellartracker.com/note.asp?iWine ... te=6929840]1971 Penfolds Grange[/url] - Australia, South Australia
    {cork, 12.3% [Gordon] Re-corked at the 2014 clinics, topped up despite level still in the neck. Tonight, decanted immediately prior to service, although sediment was minimal. Still a wonderfully dark garnet, with just the faintest bricking around the rim. Mature aromas of staggering beauty: leather and spice, chocolate and vanilla, laced with violets, aged plum and raspberry fruit. There’s just a hint of the trademark volatility that made this such a controversial show wine back in the day. The palate is mirror smooth, not really more than medium-bodied, but all of-a-piece. Ethereal flavours dance, kaleidoscope-like, on the tongue; everything that you sniffed is there, and the rest that can’t really be pinned down. A shopping list of flavours seems a bit pointless with a wine like this; it’s so much more than the sum of its parts. It’s well-aged, but it still has freshness and vibrancy. There’s even the presence of gentle low-level graphite tannins. Doesn’t seem especially oaky either. Immaculate balance on the tongue, and has an endless finish that make this a matchless wine. Considering this is approaching fifty years old, it’s extraordinary. It’s not fragile initially, although I wouldn’t decant it long, and it’s hard to see any improvement left, only the risk of decline. But anything non-ullaged, or ‘clinic-ed’ should hold a while yet. One of the great wines of the twentieth century by anyone’s standards and an absolute privilege to drink.
  • [url=https://www.cellartracker.com/note.asp?iWine ... te=6929841]2010 Two Hands Shiraz Harry & Edward's Garden[/url] - Australia, South Australia, Fleurieu, Langhorne Creek
    {cork, 15.5%} [Gordon] Developed. Gluey. Eucalypt. Very Australian. White pepper and bright cherry. On the palate, liqueured plums. Hot and baked. Faint gritty tannins. Medium-full body, with medium acid, but it’s hard to find under the heat of the palate. A bit fiery, with a medium length finish. I don’t believe further aging will help this.
  • [url=https://www.cellartracker.com/note.asp?iWine ... te=6929842]2010 Two Hands Shiraz Sophie's Garden[/url] - Australia, South Australia, Limestone Coast, Padthaway
    {cork, 14.5%} [Gordon] Lots of mint. Some pepper, but mostly spearmint. Yes, the palate is the same. An after-dinner-mint (chocolate-coated) in a glass. Medium-full body, with minimal tannin. Some acidity though; drinkable enough. Big bloom on the palate, but then fades to a medium length finish. Drink up if it’s your style.
  • [url=https://www.cellartracker.com/note.asp?iWine ... te=6929844]2010 Two Hands Shiraz Samantha's Garden[/url] - Australia, South Australia, Mount Lofty Ranges, Clare Valley
    {cork, 14.8%} [Gordon] Plush caramel, menthol, blackberry. Warm palate, a touch baked, with minimal powdery tannin. Has a sense of being a fruity milkshake in a way; suffers a bit from soft (ie. verging on “lack of”) structure. Has a medium length finish, it’s medium/full-bodied in a crowd-pleasing way, with an otherwise erratic palate; drink now. Vies with Bella’s as the pick of the Gardens for me.
  • [url=https://www.cellartracker.com/note.asp?iWine ... te=6929845]2010 Two Hands Shiraz Max's Garden[/url] - Australia, Victoria, Central Victoria, Heathcote
    {cork, 14.8%} [Gordon] Maintains a regional earth-and-iron character to the nose, and indeed the palate, which has rusty, dusty red fruit, tinged with ochre. It’s medium/full-bodied, with low dusty tannins but also lower acidity. Had this been picked less ripe I think it could have been a winner. As it is it suffers in freshness, length and vibrancy, but otherwise conveys an aging dark fruit palate with a sound but not-interesting-enough mid-palate, culminating in a medium-length, slightly warm finish. Close but no bulls-eye.
  • [url=https://www.cellartracker.com/note.asp?iWine ... te=6929846]2010 Two Hands Shiraz Bella's Garden[/url] - Australia, South Australia, Barossa, Barossa Valley
    {cork, 15%} [Gordon] Rich strawberry fruit, liquorice, sweet US oak. I can see why it’s popular. The palate adds vanilla & chocolate to the strawberry, making it almost a dessert in a glass, although it stops short of obviously sweet. At eight years it’s developing a raisiny quality with plums; it’s generous but verging on crude and bumptious rather than smooth and seductive. A crowd-pleaser then, but in a slutty kind of way.
  • [url=https://www.cellartracker.com/note.asp?iWine ... te=6929847]2010 Two Hands Shiraz Lily's Garden[/url] - Australia, South Australia, Fleurieu, McLaren Vale
    {cork, 15%} [Gordon] I wondered for a while if this was somehow ‘not right’; it had a big black olive nose, with coconut and glue-like oak. Almost industrial, but with hygiene. Dill aromas. The palate blooms with big flavours, but then collapses; super pruney fruit kicks things things off but can’t sustain a finish beyond short-medium. Nothing much beyond the front-palate, no real structure evident; no finish something of a mess. I mean, OK to drink (just), but they wanted nearly $50 for these on release, and the payoff isn’t here on this occasion (unless it was the cork…?) FAIL, as they say…
  • [url=https://www.cellartracker.com/note.asp?iWine ... te=6929848]2010 Vasse Felix Heytesbury[/url] - Australia, Western Australia, South West Australia, Margaret River
    {screwcap, 14.5%} [Gordon] The flagship red; mostly cabernet sauvignon, with a little PV and Malbec. A style-change bonus near the end of dinner. Very Margaret River. Olives, asparagus. British Racing Green in a glass. Medium/full-body, medium powdery tannins; there is somewhat developed assertive, austere curranty fruit, always with a green tint that just grates with me somehow… This has medium acid, a slightly weak mid-palate but with good presence at either end; might age well with more time but I still struggle with the overall flavour profile somehow…
  • [url=https://www.cellartracker.com/note.asp?iWine ... te=6929849]2014 Nugan Estate Sémillon Botrytis Cookoothama[/url] - Australia, New South Wales, Big Rivers, Riverina
    {375ml, screwcap, 11.5%} [Greg] Super-rich honey nose, with a hint of caramel. Rich palate, medium/full-bodied, it’s overtly sweet, massively honeyed, but with rotten apricots and the whole botrytis phalanx in attendance. It’s lavish, in every sense. Think it’s meant to be drunk now, not cellared. I concur. With blue cheese.
A great opportunity to taste ripe shiraz from a variety of Australian regions (in generally good vintages), and yet, although the Gardens are well made, I think they suffer from their super-ripe, bigger-is-better, Robert Parker-pitched character. Even a mere eight years down the track, they struggle to convey freshness and vigour, instead battling to tread the line between dead-grape character and power, not to mention the vagaries of their antiquated closure (take a bow, cork). The Barossa seemed in the end to be the pick of them; the other regions succumbed more to the massive alcohol levels. In the end, the collection was comprehensively trumped by two awesome chardonnays and an incomparable Grange, so no complaints are justified in the real world.
cheers,
Graeme

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Hi Graeme
Thanks for the notes. I'd figured Two Hands wines weren't made in a style I'd like and your TNs add to that feeling. Perhaps also they are wines best drunk on release for the best fruit intensity?
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Ian

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Geez after those 2 chards and the 71 grange you really gave it a serious benchmark to beat! :lol:

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Bobthebuilder wrote:Geez after those 2 chards and the 71 grange you really gave it a serious benchmark to beat! :lol:
I agree...seems two separate tastings might have been in order here.
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phillisc wrote:
Bobthebuilder wrote:Geez after those 2 chards and the 71 grange you really gave it a serious benchmark to beat! :lol:
I agree...seems two separate tastings might have been in order here.
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I do actually think some of these big wines get better after even more age to them...although somewhere in the middle there they just look like a hot mess.

Have had some Two Hands from around 2004 (they're my BBQ/Non Wine Geek guest type of wine) and while they're quite ripe, they've balanced out a bit..seem less hot...less oaky (but still oaky). I've seen that with several other older Barossa/McLaren Vale stuff as well...Not saying they all get like that, some are just too raisin like and too hot and there is nothing that will help that out..

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OK I'm gonna file this under weirdest tasting progression ever! :D

To go from Oz's two best Chardy's to one of the best Red wines Australia has produced over the last 60 years to Two Hands wines... is weird... :D

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dave vino wrote:OK I'm gonna file this under weirdest tasting progression ever! :D

To go from Oz's two best Chardy's to one of the best Red wines Australia has produced over the last 60 years to Two Hands wines... is weird... :D
What’s even weirder is its Graeme G
I reckon he was just being politically correct and incredibly polite :lol:
That said, he was totally honest in his notes and that reassured me considering he is one of my favourite tasting noters, responsible for a good chunk of my cellar!
Graeme, I hope you share my totally unacceptable standard of humour :P

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Oh look, it's over dinner, not really a 'tasting'! But Gordo was keen to drink the 2 hands vertical. I think he was expecting them to be better than they were. Bringing the Giaconda was very generous, but was probably chosen just because it was 2010. Aaron offered to bring a contrasting wine of similar quality and same vintage. The Grange must have been a moment of madness I think. And, clinic notwithstanding, there was an element of risk.
But yes, the Two Hands were a bit of a let down!
cheers,
Graeme

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