What Wine Have You Purchased That You Now Regret?

[dave vino]

Same for Duck Muck, although big wines I find them well balanced.

[rooman]

Mature Cullens turning up in Hong Kong $50 retail !! It's murder for the Aussie fine wine industry or perhaps just another one of those dodgy wine investment schemes gone bust? I'm shocked at what $50 buying- Meshach, Tahbilk Old Vines....

Out of interest has anyone tried the Cullen 2005? I've got a few tucked away which I was waiting another 5 years before opening the case.

Mark

[Mahmoud Ali]

More a dumb purchase - a 6lt bottle of Yalumba 1996 Signature. Seemed like a good idea at the time when a friend who worked there rang with a good offer. When do you drink it? Not a party wine it deserves a nice meal and good company in an an appropriate environment. Eventually it went to auction and replaced with a few good bottles that will be drunk.

Six litres is a lot of wine. It so happens that my bottles of Yalumba Signature are from the 1996 vintage and I have high expectations, as I do with my other '96s.

I wouldn't call the Octavius a fruit bomb, but the older ones are definitely oak bombs

Coincidentally my Octavius is an older one, from the 1996 vintage. The idea behind Octavius was that the smaller casks added extra oak exposure but are they not aged the same way or is there a difference in the way they make them now?

Mahmoud.

[Broughy]

2004 Seppelt St Peters & Chalambar
Don't think they got this right.
Heavy oak handling, quite acidic and very dry.
Not sure if it will ever come around

[Diddy]

Noons... Not for my tastes at all now.

+1 on Noon. Lovely winery to deal with, but just haven't enjoyed any of their wines.

[Chuck]

I wouldn't call the Octavius a fruit bomb, but the older ones are definitely oak bombs

Its nickname is Oaktavius.

Carl

[Mike Hawkins]

More a dumb purchase - a 6lt bottle of Yalumba 1996 Signature. Seemed like a good idea at the time when a friend who worked there rang with a good offer. When do you drink it? Not a party wine it deserves a nice meal and good company in an an appropriate environment. Eventually it went to auction and replaced with a few good bottles that will be drunk.

Six litres is a lot of wine. It so happens that my bottles of Yalumba Signature are from the 1996 vintage and I have high expectations, as I do with my other '96s.

I wouldn't call the Octavius a fruit bomb, but the older ones are definitely oak bombs

Coincidentally my Octavius is an older one, from the 1996 vintage. The idea behind Octavius was that the smaller casks added extra oak exposure but are they not aged the same way or is there a difference in the way they make them now?

Mahmoud.

I'm not sure what the maturation difference is nowadays, buit I definitely didn't notice as much oak in the 2010 and 2012.

[ufo]

Any wine from Mudgee, fun place to visit, just don't come home with any wine - a mistake I have made three times.

This is too generalist, Mudgee is definitely not a wine region to be written off like that.

[ufo]

I regret buying all those big Barossa Shiraz, Greenock creek, Two Hands, Kealske and Rolf Binder. All went to auction a few years ago.

Cheers Con.

I suppose you meant Kalleske. All of Kalleske wines have great structure with proper back bone to support the fruit. They never ever add acid into their wines like some others in Barossa & MacLaren Vale. Except the entry level wines, they all age well. IMO their old wine Grenache is the best Ozzie Grenache ever with great aging potential, finished the 6pack of 2003 last year, they were all just brilliant, never knew that aged Grenache could be packed with so much flavour and so spectacular on the nose. Their Johan Georg when tasted blind against Grange has been taken as Grange in many tastings. Actually the grapes that are used for Johan Georg, which are planted in 1853, were the main source for the Grange many years in the past before Kalleske family started making wine. They are one of the first wineries officially certified organic and biodynamic

[DJ1980]

What dont you enjoy about R.R's ?
I find them to be elegant. Even in youth

It's the high alcohol levels I really find distracting. Anything over 14.5% these days I struggle with.

[Rocky]

Mature Cullens turning up in Hong Kong $50 retail !! It's murder for the Aussie fine wine industry or perhaps just another one of those dodgy wine investment schemes gone bust? I'm shocked at what $50 buying- Meshach, Tahbilk Old Vines....

Out of interest has anyone tried the Cullen 2005? I've got a few tucked away which I was waiting another 5 years before opening the case.

Mark

I haven't tried a 2005 Cullen yet but do have a 2005 in magnum. Was told it will be peaking around 2020 so i assume in bottle it should be ready now.

[winetastic]

Any wine from Mudgee, fun place to visit, just don't come home with any wine - a mistake I have made three times.

This is too generalist, Mudgee is definitely not a wine region to be written off like that.

I should have phrased that differently, every wine I have brought home from the last two trips to the region I regretted when drinking later.

[Con J]

I regret buying all those big Barossa Shiraz, Greenock creek, Two Hands, Kealske and Rolf Binder. All went to auction a few years ago.

Cheers Con.

I suppose you meant Kalleske. All of Kalleske wines have great structure with proper back bone to support the fruit. They never ever add acid into their wines like some others in Barossa & MacLaren Vale. Except the entry level wines, they all age well. IMO their old wine Grenache is the best Ozzie Grenache ever with great aging potential, finished the 6pack of 2003 last year, they were all just brilliant, never knew that aged Grenache could be packed with so much flavour and so spectacular on the nose. Their Johan Georg when tasted blind against Grange has been taken as Grange in many tastings. Actually the grapes that are used for Johan Georg, which are planted in 1853, were the main source for the Grange many years in the past before Kalleske family started making wine. They are one of the first wineries officially certified organic and biodynamic

Yes they were Kalleske Johan Georg from 03, 04 and 05.
They are a good wine if you like the style but I just didn't enjoy them.

Cheers Con .

[dave vino]

Noons... Not for my tastes at all now.

+1 on Noon. Lovely winery to deal with, but just haven't enjoyed any of their wines.

I think they are starting to dial them back a bit. The language on the website talks about them making full bodied wines yet in the next paragraph...

In search of increasing refinement...

Whilst we remain committed to producing full bodied red wines, we are constantly seeking to improve and refine them. I think that refinement is important when given such natural generosity.

To this end we manipulate the wines as little as possible, keeping all additives to a minimum in the vineyard and the winery.

The benefit is more pure, natural tasting wine which more transparently reflects the place it comes from and the vintage.

Other changes have come about following the introduction of screw caps in 2012. This more reliable seal slows the average development of the wine in bottle and our wine making has changed to allow for the different closure. We now give the wines longer in vat and have increased their exposure to oxygen during barrel maturation. This produces a more refined flavour but reduces the colour density and purple hue slightly for the first couple of years following bottling. The colour however should be more stable over time in bottle.

[Jay60A]

Rockford BP 2002 - bought a case of them based on other vintages and a JO score of 97 (?) I think.
Drank them (price was reasonable) but frankly would have done better to auction them - generally hot and out of balance.
No regrets BP with other vintages I have.

Overbought on Parker points 2002-2004 but some of them are great wines despite the RP points if you get my drift.
Case in point - the Amon Ra 2002 (McLaren Vale) Shiraz. Opened one - my only bottle - a week back, absolutely top drawer stuff, really classy, wish I had more. A bit of a unicorn wine - not sure but only vintage it was made I believe.

[Jay60A]

2004 Seppelt St Peters & Chalambar
Don't think they got this right.
Heavy oak handling, quite acidic and very dry.
Not sure if it will ever come around

Tasted the 2004 Chalambar at release. Seemed all over the place, never bought.
I still have a case of the 2004 St Peters so am hoping it's better than you say. Certainly the wine ages, I had the 1991 in about 2006 and it was excellent.

Anyone had the St Peters 2002 recently. Is it anywhere near getting back to it's release hype form?

[Ian S]

Rockford BP 2002 - bought a case of them based on other vintages and a JO score of 97 (?) I think.
Drank them (price was reasonable) but frankly would have done better to auction them - generally hot and out of balance.
No regrets BP with other vintages I have.

For the first time I can recall, I saw Rockford Basket Press in a January sale this year. Whilst I suspect never big numbers, it always seemed sought after here.

[Mike Hawkins]

Case in point - the Amon Ra 2002 (McLaren Vale) Shiraz. Opened one - my only bottle - a week back, absolutely top drawer stuff, really classy, wish I had more. A bit of a unicorn wine - not sure but only vintage it was made I believe.

From memory it's been Barossa ever since

[Michael McNally]

I bought too many cheapie/quaffers from the usual suspects to drink while my better wines matured. I probably did this for a year 18 months longer than I needed to and ended up giving away 6 or more dozen wines that were okay but never desirable as there was always a better option. And you can only have so much "cooking wine".

Too much Shiraz, also.

Cheers

Michael

[Chuck]

Any wine from Mudgee, fun place to visit, just don't come home with any wine - a mistake I have made three times.

This is too generalist, Mudgee is definitely not a wine region to be written off like that.

Yes it is.

[rooman]

2004 Seppelt St Peters & Chalambar
Don't think they got this right.
Heavy oak handling, quite acidic and very dry.
Not sure if it will ever come around

Tasted the 2004 Chalambar at release. Seemed all over the place, never bought.
I still have a case of the 2004 St Peters so am hoping it's better than you say. Certainly the wine ages, I had the 1991 in about 2006 and it was excellent.

Anyone had the St Peters 2002 recently. Is it anywhere near getting back to it's release hype form?

I've tried the 02, 03 & 04 over the past year. Sadly none are near the joyous experience of the 98 I have drunk out of the cellar recently so I am leaving them all alone for a few more years.

Mark

[Jay60A]

Case in point - the Amon Ra 2002 (McLaren Vale) Shiraz. Opened one - my only bottle - a week back, absolutely top drawer stuff, really classy, wish I had more. A bit of a unicorn wine - not sure but only vintage it was made I believe.

From memory it's been Barossa ever since

Yeah - saw a note somewhere way back that the block was either too unproductive or had gone to another source. I think in 2002 only Ben Glaetzer made both Barossa and McLaren Amon Ras. I'd like to try again. Single bottle from auction I think.

[crusty2]

Case in point - the Amon Ra 2002 (McLaren Vale) Shiraz. Opened one - my only bottle - a week back, absolutely top drawer stuff, really classy, wish I had more. A bit of a unicorn wine - not sure but only vintage it was made I believe.

From memory it's been Barossa ever since

Yeah - saw a note somewhere way back that the block was either too unproductive or had gone to another source. I think in 2002 only Ben Glaetzer made both Barossa and McLaren Amon Ras. I'd like to try again. Single bottle from auction I think.

There was some wines called Nefertiti (a Barossa Shiraz) and a Nefertari (a McLaren Vale Shiraz), think these were made for Heritage Wine Investment Scheme which eventually went bust.
Not sure if your wine came out of these creations.

Cheers

[Bobthebuilder]

That Lamint looks great
The degustation menu is really well balanced for whites first half reds second half
The feast looks great too and half the price
dishes sound really interesting
Pricing is more than reasonable
Almost sounds too good to be true

[sjw_11]

That Lamint looks great
The degustation menu is really well balanced for whites first half reds second half
The feast looks great too and half the price
dishes sound really interesting
Pricing is more than reasonable
Almost sounds too good to be true

Perhaps pre-empting a future topic: what thread have you posted to by accident that you now regret?

[rens]

That Lamint looks great
The degustation menu is really well balanced for whites first half reds second half
The feast looks great too and half the price
dishes sound really interesting
Pricing is more than reasonable
Almost sounds too good to be true

Perhaps pre-empting a future topic: what thread have you posted to by accident that you now regret?

Yes, reading that I thought I was at work for a second talking to someone with dementia.

[Bobthebuilder]

well, buggered if I know how that happened?!?!?!

[Con J]

I’m beginning to regret buying all the bottles from Chateauneuf-du-Pape I have.
Apart from a couple bottle of Rayas I don’t get much enjoyment from them.

Seriously thinking about sending them Auction.

Cheers Con.

[catchnrelease]

2013 Thousand Candles comes to mind. I haven't opened my bottle yet, but I still regret buying it. I got sucked into all the hype and paid $105 for it. It was subsequently heavily discounted at less than half the release price after everyone found out it didn't deliver the goods.

Ditto

[Phil H]

2013 Thousand Candles comes to mind. I haven't opened my bottle yet, but I still regret buying it. I got sucked into all the hype and paid $105 for it. It was subsequently heavily discounted at less than half the release price after everyone found out it didn't deliver the goods.

Ditto

Agree - however I was one of the people who bought it for around $40. Yup it was interesting - tasted like a pinot with sav blanc added (which it is) - maybe worth $40 for its uniqueness - don't hold onto it for to long.