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TN: Adelaide Sell A Kidney II Offline at Publisher's 12/6/16

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It’s been a while since the last Adelaide Offline, so to start with we went with a very high standard to coincide with Jamie’s visit. The food and service at Publisher’s Hotel was top notch (although I have to admit I thought our deal was for a main with three meats served over three courses, not a choice of three mains?), definitely worth considering for future offlines. A huge thank you to everyone for the great experience and their generosity, and especially to Jeff for organising.


2002 Krug Champagne Vintage Brut (cork): Pale straw with a good mousse and very fine bead. An initial burst of aldehyde on first whiff gives way to a young, tight bouquet with grapefruit, wet quartz, a little smoke and milk chocolate; the palate’s just as dry and tight, long and crisp with a little more bread and fennel characters with breathing. Perfectly balanced for the long haul, cork withstanding – it’s worth noting neither of the Krug corks looked particularly good tonight.

Krug Champagne Brut Rosé (cork): Pale Salmon with a good mousse and very fine bead. Rich and broad with obvious bread/aldehyde, caramel and coffee characters matched with very round strawberry fruit, a startling contrast to the lean, tense 2002 Krug. I thought this was just as enjoyable, although some questioned if this was a slightly advanced/heat affected example; a great match for the in-house smoked oysters, while the 2002 Krug was perfect with the natural oysters with lemon.

1978 Domaine Jacques Prieur Montrachet (cork): Medium amber. Heavily oxidised, sherried and dry but still (barely) alive, the palate a little more subtle and balanced than the nose with almond, tobacco and toasty, minerally characters. Curio value only.

1998 François Raveneau Chablis 1er Cru Butteaux (cork): Medium straw. Still fresh and savoury, wool carpet, grapefruit, sugared biscuits, lemon rind and blossoms, the palate beautifully round and rich with a smoky, minerally finish. I love Great Chablis like this, it’s just a pity it has become so hit and miss.

1994 Domaine Bruno Clair Corton-Charlemagne (cork): Dark gold/light amber. Buttery and toasty, some popcorn with touches of bacon and ground paprika, the palate very spicy, rich and fat; at its peak, a great contrast to the Chablis, and a perfect match for the scallops wrapped in pancetta.

1973 Penfolds Grange Hermitage, South Australia (cork): 98% Shiraz, 2% Cabernet Sauvignon, sourced from the Kalimna Vineyard, Barossa Valley, Magill Estate, Modbury, and Coonawarra. Penfolds clinic 2014 bottle. Medium to very dark red/garnet. Smoky oak, raspberries and earth, vanilla, cocoa and a touch of pickle which has always been a feature of this vintage, relatively lightweight for Grange with a dry finish and more obvious bourbon oak with breathing. After an initial strong showing it faded quickly in the glass, but perhaps that was not surprising since this bottle had accidentally been triple decanted.

1978 Penfolds Grange Hermitage, South Australia (cork): 90% Shiraz, 10% Cabernet Sauvignon, sourced from the Kalimna Vineyard, Barossa Valley, Magill Estate, Modbury, Clare Valley and Coonawarra. Penfolds clinic 2014 bottle. Spectacular medium to very dark red/purple colour – this is 38 years old?! Seems young, juicy and powerful for its age, blueberry, blackberry, cocoa, crushed ants, vanilla pod and graphite, very long, velvety and grippy. A classic full-weight Grange with black fruits, lots of American oak and time on its side.

1980 Penfolds Grange Hermitage, South Australia (cork): 96% Shiraz, 4% Cabernet Sauvignon, sourced from the Kalimna Vineyard, Barossa Valley, Clare Valley, Magill Estate, McLaren Vale and Coonawarra. Medium to darkish red/garnet. An interesting contrast to the 1978 vintage, minty and exotic Dujon mustard characters with red raspberry fruits in comparison to black fruits; the palate is velvety, fat and tangy choc-cherries, the oak much more restrained, relatively approachable and near or at its peak right now.

1992 Henschke Hill Of Grace Shiraz, Eden Valley (cork): Medium blood red. Sweet, spicy and jubey, raspberries, red jellies, becoming very minty with breathing; the palate is around medium-weight, relatively light, even for Hill of Grace, but is well balanced and long enough. A nice enough wine, but lacked the wow factor of many others tonight.

1994 Henschke Hill Of Grace Shiraz, Eden Valley (cork): Medium to dark crimson/blood red. In contrast to the 1992 vintage this opens with powerful oak and black fruits compared to red, black liquorice, blackberry, cocoa, bitter chocolate, dill, truffle and aniseed. It’s scale and swagger are initially impressive, but there is also dirty smell of barnyard that intensifies with breathing and eventually it becomes way too distracting for my liking. I always wanted to try the “vintage of the black ferments”, according to some one of the most powerful Hills of Grace ever made, and I am glad to have finally crossed it off my list. Thanks Jamie.

1996 Penfolds Block 42 Kalimna Cabernet Sauvignon, Barossa Valley (cork): Medium to very dark red. Lavish oak and ripe cabernet fruit in big Barossa style, black cherries, cassis, tobacco, dark chocolate, peppermint, earth and oil, the palate genuinely full-weight with no mid-palate hole and impossibly long. In a night of super reds this was well above the rest, and it’s just a baby.

1999 Bodegas Vega-Sicilia Ribera del Duero Único (cork): Bugger, horribly corked.

1998 Wendouree Shiraz, Clare Valley (cork): A backup slotted in for the previous corked wine. Medium to dark garnet. Stocky and toasty at first, with rather sappy/charred oak ahead of the minty red berry fruit; it’s a big wine for Wendouree in all respects, yet for some reason I was not as enamoured with it as everyone else.

1999 Château d'Yquem Sauternes (cork): Medium amber/straw. Still showing some youthful whiffs of sulphur along with waves of botrytis-derived quince paste, marzipan, plastic, dried ginger, candied citrus, salted caramel and eventually peppermint; the palate’s massive and incredibly long with gum-draining/mouthwatering acidity stopping it from being cloying, finishing with smoky/French vanilla. A superb wine, its complexity, weight and balance cannot be faulted, although part of me still has trouble justifying the hefty premium compared to the very best of the 1er Cru Sauternes.

1990 Trimbach Pinot Gris Sélection de Grains Nobles (cork): Medium straw/amber. Right at its peak, honeyed with overripe banana, ginger and a touch of tealeaves, a solid sweet wine in its own right, but it’s a tough act to follow d’Yquem!

1930 Seppelt Para Liqueur Port, Barossa Valley (cork): Murky brown. Rich and hedonistic, and yet in contrast to the 100 year old Para there is a freshness and softness still there, Christmas pudding drenched in crème de cacao, espresso, tobacco and dark chocolate, all of which just lingers on, and on, and on. At one stage one of our hosts told me he went to the cellar to collect a bottle of red for the staff, walked back into the dining room and all he could smell was this magical elixir! A truly astonishing wine, and relatively speaking still ridiculously cheap at auction.

NV Morris of Rutherglen Old Premium Rare Liqueur Muscat 500ml (screwcap): Very dark brown with an olive rim. Raisiny with fruitcake, dried dates and neutral spirit, a great fortified wine although not remotely close to the heavyweight division of the Para.



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Thanks Ian, enjoyable read. Sound like a pretty good hedonodistic evening.

Had the Krug Rose recently and it was very fresh. That bottle was defintely nqr.

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My longish vibes just got dumped...... Yes, the Krug Rose was buggered in my experience. The Block 42 my WOTN once I got passed the malty oak, that said, the HoG being served after Grange was a mistake, as some of the subtler pleasantries of the wine drowned out. The 92 HoG was worse off for being decanted and the 94 HoG still requires some aeration. Never noted the barnyard before. Interesting levels and not un-Rhone like so wondering if bottle age character or the brett crisis at Henschke started in 94- probably the later!

The Raveneau was to behold, and the Corton a great contrast though a bit of an oak shell with age with it's maker's style. The chariness of the 98 Wendouree not something I've noted before.

Great night! Hope we continue this style of offline. We can all provide a great bottle as wine lovers with the secondary market stupidly cheap for a lot of amazing foreign gear. The venue was superb. Classic Adelaide with a relaxed class to the atmosphere and service.
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Ian/Jamie,
Interesting notes and comment on the 96 Block 42, it's what I intended to bring had I been able to get to Adl last weekend. Still a very youthful and tight wine for me but becoming a classic in my opinion, will go a lot lot longer.
Great notes Ian.
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mjs wrote:Ian/Jamie,
Interesting notes and comment on the 96 Block 42, it's what I intended to bring had I been able to get to Adl last weekend. Still a very youthful and tight wine for me but becoming a classic in my opinion, will go a lot lot longer.
Great notes Ian.
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At twenty years of age the 1996 Block 42 looks impossibly young while still brilliantly balanced, I think it was universally WOTN - it will age at a glacial pace, and will probably be the closest thing to Penfolds Grange Cabernet I will see.

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Great notes as always, Ian. Was the Krug Rose an older bottling?

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Seven wrote:Great notes as always, Ian. Was the Krug Rose an older bottling?

No idea Chi, you will have to ask Mark Wickman who slung this one in as a late replacement for the 1996 Salon he couldn't find.
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Ian, you are correct regarding the main course.
Looking back at emails, the main course was "3 different meats as a main".
Definitely not a choice as occurred. In preliminary discussion peter said they would be beef, lamb and perhaps venison done in their own smoker.
Was there poor communication with the kitchen?
I will pass this on to them for response.

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Nice little lineup there! Good work chaps. Block 42 sounds the goods!

Same about the SGN, was just saying elsewhere the other week, the Trimbach VTs and SGNs with a bit of age can be more like off-dry and I find them best to slot in before reds (along with other off-dries).

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I was worried my Raveneau would be premoxed. Luckily on the night we gotta good one and it was sensational ! A week later a different story . Look at the contrasts between the Droin les Clos 2002 and a 99 Raveneau de Tonnerre; the premoxed Raveneau made drinkable by local hard cheese.

The Droin wonderful incidently. 94pts with its stunning fruit purity and classic Chablis structure .


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JamieBahrain wrote:I was worried my Raveneau would be premoxed. Luckily on the night we gotta good one and it was sensational ! A week later a different story . Look at the contrasts between the Droin les Clos 2002 and a 99 Raveneau de Tonnerre; the premoxed Raveneau made drinkable by local hard cheese.

Compare the colour of that Montee De Tonnerre to the clear straw colour of the 1998 Butteaux in the glass on the left and there's a fair difference. :| (the glass on the right is the 1978 Jacques Prieur Montrachet)

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Thanks Ian. A cheesy Chablis minerality gave me a little hope that the decanter may help. Raveneau does benefit aeration. No joy. $170 down the drain ....
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JamieBahrain wrote:Thanks Ian. A cheesy Chablis minerality gave me a little hope that the decanter may help. Raveneau does benefit aeration. No joy. $170 down the drain ....

As much as I love great Chablis this kind of pricing combined with the high levels of random premox have put me off dipping into that well again, at least in the near future. If I ever do feel the need I always check out the Oxidised Burgs site: while past results are not necessarily an indicator of what you may ultimately get, at least you have some idea of a wine's track record before deciding whether or not to take a gamble. Cellartracker can be good for this too.

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