Guigal la mouline

[Hunter]

Hi guys ive found a 2005 la mouline for 695$
Is all the hype really worth it ??
Thanks ..

[TiggerK]

A) Depends on your income/budget as to whether you'll think it's 'worth it'.

B) Not had the 05, generally it's world class wine, but will definitely need at least 10 more years in a cool cellar to show well, ideally 15-20 years. You could drink it now, but would be a bit of a waste, unless you can afford a few bottles!

[Hunter]

Thanks tigger..
the budgets not too much of an issue
Would like too own and have one in the vintec

Any rhone syrahs you could recommend for less would be greatly appreciated ??

[Mike Hawkins]

I haven't had the 05, but past Lalas from great years have been magnificent. As Tigger indicates, it needs more time.

[Mike Hawkins]

Any rhone syrahs you could recommend for less would be greatly appreciated ??

Stick to the good years for Jaboulet La Chapelle - when on song it's fantastic, though they underperformed badly for some ten years.... Some of the Chapoutiers are good with time - I have quite a bit of Pavillon.

[Hunter]

Ok thanks, I purcahsed a couple le pavilion 2012s early this year that will be put away for a long time..
What are the lalas ?
Also is 695 a fair price for la mouline
Thanks again.

[Mike Hawkins]

What are the lalas ?

The nickname for La Mouline, La Turque and La Landonne

[Hunter]

What are some good years for the le chappels ?

[Hacker]

Also is 695 a fair price for la mouline
Thanks again.

I'm not an expert on this topic but checked on the Langtons site and this vintage last sold some time in 2015 for mid $400's.

[Hunter]

Hi hacker thanks for the feed back..
This is from a langtons broker so im not sure why his price is so high..
Where did u see this info ?

[Hunter]

The price guide is 460 -640 but youd never get it for 460 on auction when the bids start at 500

[Bobthebuilder]

theres a lot with 2 bottles (lot 2419) of the 99 sitting at 460 in the game of rhones auction closing tonight.
quite a few 2003's as well but they are all sitting at the 597 reserve.

[Hacker]

Hi hacker thanks for the feed back..
This is from a langtons broker so im not sure why his price is so high..
Where did u see this info ?

The Wine Price Guide tab on their website. Once you search for Guigal then la Mouline then 2005

[felixp]

What are some good years for the le chappels ?

you will probably read different, but as far as I am concerned, 1995 was the last decent La Chapelle before 2010, which is monumental. They really went thru a horrendous period.

[felixp]

Thanks tigger..
the budgets not too much of an issue
Would like too own and have one in the vintec

Any rhone syrahs you could recommend for less would be greatly appreciated ??

if you can find any of Clape's Cornas 2010 grab it. Stunning wine, I saw it in 2014 where it topped the night amongst many greats from the Northern Rhone, including all three LaLa's present. Smoked the Chave that was present too!!!
pretty hard to source, though. Shouldn't be more than $200-250, I would think. I keep reminding myself to go out and find some!!!

[Hunter]

Thanks felixp il check it out..
If I where too bid by the time I won the bid and charged the intrest it would be around the 6, 700$ Mark..

[Hunter]

Felixp are the 11s 12s or 13s as good as the 10s ?

[felixp]

Clape?? Don't know about Clape's 11, 12 or 13's, but would not imagine they are in the same ball-park given the vintages in question.

[Mike Hawkins]

La Chapelle - 61,78 and 90 are all time greats (not had the first 2). There was a dud patcg, but one of the posters on the board indicated a recent sample of the 03 was pretty good. They are back in form with the past couple of good years in the Rhone (apparently)

[Hunter]

Hey felix Ive found some clapes all 11's and 13's ..

Have you tried either of these ?

Cheers

[Hunter]

Hey guys.. could someone inspire me too purchase a premium guigal ?? Still in the ball park.. cant decide
These guigal la moulines have great reviews..

[TiggerK]

My Top 14 Wines from 2014....

Sparkling
1998 Krug Vintage Champagne
2004 Taittinger Comtes de Champagne

White
2011 Coche-Dury Corton-Charlemagne
2011 Ramonet Batard-Montrachet

Red
1955 Woodley's Treasure Chest (WOTY)
1965 Lindemans Hunter River Burgundy Bin 3110
1970 Saltram ‘Hydraulic Pressing’ Shiraz
1971 Penfolds Grange
1990 Étienne Guigal 'La Mouline'
1992 Henschke Hill of Grace Shiraz
1994 Étienne Guigal 'La Landonne'
2000 Chateau Rayas Chateauneuf-du-Pape Reserve

Sweet/Fortified/Spirit
1973 Staatsweinguter Hochheimer Domdechaney, Rheingau Eiswein-Beerenauslese
Ron Zacapa Centenario 23 Year Old Solera Rum


Heartfelt thanks to all my wonderful, generous friends for another fantastic year of great wine, food, company and laughs. Happy New Year!

[Polymer]

All of the Lalas are going to be good....Have not had too many myself but all of the ones I've had were very good....

Are they worth it? Depends on each individual...Could you get something nearly as good for a lot less? Yes...but if you're looking for that last bit of difference, you're going to spend exponentially more....Whether that extra money is worth it to you will depend on how much money you have to spend and how much you're seeking that little bit of difference...and also where your palate is...

Also, at that price point, it might be worth making sure the place you'll get it from, will take it back if there are any issues (TCA). Unless you're getting a killer deal that makes the risk worth it...

[redwhiteandrose]

Wise words, Polymer.

[Mahmoud Ali]

..... if you can find any of Clape's Cornas 2010 grab it. Stunning wine, I saw it in 2014 where it topped the night amongst many greats from the Northern Rhone, including all three LaLa's present. Smoked the Chave that was present too!!!
pretty hard to source, though. Shouldn't be more than $200-250, I would think. I keep reminding myself to go out and find some!!!

I'd second the Cornas Clape recommendation. I've not had the 2010 but I cannot believe that it's price has risen so much. The last bottle I had was the '04 and it was lovely, restrained and tight, but so elegant, rich, deep black-fruited, and a mineral and tannic finish.

In any case I highly recommend the Clape Cornas.

Mahmoud.

[Hunter]

Thanks for all your replys.. im sure I could find something just as good or there abouts for half the price.. im only new too the wine game so I need too set some standards..

The 2010 clapes cornas finding extremly hard too find..

Any other syrahs you could recommend would be great..