Please help this novice fill a decanter and a cellar!

[Manno]

Hi all. Just signed up, hoping to benefit from the many, many...... many bottles of collective wine buying knowledge found on this site. Im 36 and hope to bypass the extensive trial and error of buying bottle after bottle until I finally settle on that stock few that I know I can rely on enjoying. A bit of background on my "tastes" in red wine wont take long at all as I've really not tasted many wines that I can whole heartedly say I have TRULY enjoyed to the point of buying again.

The few wines that I have nursed and savoured to the very bottom have been -

1996 Penfods 707
2000, 2002 Brands Old Vine Shiraz
1999, 2000,01,02 Elderton Command Shiraz
2006 Giant Squid Ink (probably last on my list)

Not a long list of wines but hopefully you can garner from that what style of wines i might like. Now, please forgive my butchering of tasting notes but i'll try my best to describe just some of (but not exclusive to) the wine characteristics I enjoy most. I guess I'm looking for ripe dark fruit, almost jammy, vanilla/dark choc, a hint of spice, long and luscious. Not so keen on really savoury peppery reds preferring well aged reds that are almost sweet?!? Hoping that makes sense!! While I might not be able to properly describe all the individual flavours/notes I can definitely taste them. So a complexity, while not easily described will not be wasted on me. In regards to experience, I rate that as a pretty important consideration when I open and drink a bottle of red. I like the idea of drinking a red made from old vine, 100 years of history soaking up the sun, drinking from the soil. Equally, I like the idea of opening a bottle thats sat dormant, waiting, for years and years.

So enough waffling on. I'm really hoping to get a few suggestions of wines of decent age that i can drink now, some that you would recommend i get a hold of that will drink well in 5 years, and some in 10+ years.

For wines to drink now with my partner (weekly/monthly) I'd spend up to $60ish. The odd family thing up to $100ish and for wines to cellar I'm open to all suggestions as long as you think they will fit what I'm after.

Thanks in advance!
Emmanuel

[Mike Hawkins]

Not that they're my cup of tea, but if you like ripe, jammy, extracted, alcoholic types, then Greenock Creek and Mollydooker spring to mind. If you're happy to age them yourself, load up on 2012 vintage.

[Manno]

Not sure if I've even described the wines i like accurately Mike but the few I've listed are definitely the style of wines I enjoy.

"Alcoholic types" ?

[Polymer]

I think he's just taking the wines you listed and some of the things and came up with a general style that he feels you like....I'd probably agree with that too based on the examples you gave...

So bigger fruit, very ripe, smoother tannins, oaky vanilla, very full mouthfeel....Riper fruit tends to equal more alcohol as well...

As a sweeping statement I'd say you'll probably enjoy McLaren Vale, Barossa Valley, Rutherglen reds...Probably Heathcote as well...

[Bobthebuilder]

The strength of the alcohol, not the drinker drinking it!

[TiggerK]

The below text in italics was my post in another recent thread about 'cellar favourites'. I think it's appropriate here... Not saying you should immediately start collecting Burgundy, Barolo, Champagne* etc, but for now I am suggesting you should ...

A) Not settle on a 'stock few'. Try as many styles of wines as you can over the next few years, and not buy too much, too early. Yes, buy a few of what you like, as per what Polymer has suggested, and in a slightly less 'big' vein, I'd be suggesting stuff like Torzi Matthews, Teusner, John Duval Entity, Turkey Flat, Head, Marius as well as experimenting with some Spanish Rioja and maybe some Chinon. Worth trying some Hawkes Bay red from the 2007/09/10 or 13 vintages as well.

B) Remember that the wines you've enjoyed have been nicely aged, and may of the wines you will try haven't been. (Yet!)

*(OK you can start collecting Champagne anytime, Pol Roger NV, Arras Vintage, Krug NV if your budget allows, Lanson Vintage will all improve greatly with a few years cellar time, the trick is keeping your hands off them!)


For many collectors, first it's about points seeking, big reds and bigger whites, then with more exposure to great wine on a world scale, a gradual evolution into structure, balance, regionality and complexity. All roads can then so easily lead to Burgundy, with a few detours via the Mosel, Spain, Langhe and aged Bordeaux... mmm...

Not just the past few years, but my tastes are leaning towards exploring the myriad of styles across Europe. So much variety, and so much interest, often without the crazy pricetags associated with Burg and Bordeaux over here. Really want to explore more of Italy and Southern France, plus some of the lesser known regions of Spain and Portugal. I also enjoy finding good Oz and NZ producers doing interesting things a bit off the mainstream path, like Luke Lambert, Unico Zelo, Framingham, Pyramid Valley etc. More mainstream labels I have soft spots for are Tyrrells, Felton Road, Hoddles and Kumeu River. Trying to slowly increase my % of Champagne, Riesling and Chardonnay, but leaving it alone is never easy!!

But if money was no object, I'd be stocking up my cellar on Burgundy, Barolo, Barbaresco, some quality USA stuff and more good Champagne!

Have mentioned a few producers already, how about 5 regions I'm enjoying? Mosel, Jura, Langhe, Loire and Alsace.

Enjoy the journey!
Cheers
TiggerK

[Manno]

Thank you, mike, bob, polymer and tigger. So far theres a broad suggestion covering region, some specific makers to enquire about and likely taste as well as possibly a slightly different approach to consider compared with what i had planned (thanks tigger......i think ). I really appreciate the advice thus far. I did however forget to apologise in the op for a question probably asked dozens of times. Yes, I plan to trawl through the site for bits of info relevant to me but its been a long week (ends 2:00pm tomorrow) so I thought id get the ball rolling first, then get my hands dirty after I've had the chance to catch up on some much needed sleep. Thanks again!

[Polymer]

Well, I wouldn't worry too much about other regions or styles you aren't into...Some people's palates change and some do not...There are plenty of very experienced wine enthusiasts on here that have not had their palate change...

I think some people have said don't buy heavy early on...because a lot of people (all over the place) are stuck with cellars of stuff they no longer want to drink because they bought so heavily early on thinking they'll enjoy that one style forever.....

[pc79]

I think some people have said don't buy heavy early on...because a lot of people (all over the place) are stuck with cellars of stuff they no longer want to drink because they bought so heavily early on thinking they'll enjoy that one style forever.....

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[Duncan Disorderly]

I guess I'm looking for ripe dark fruit, almost jammy, vanilla/dark choc, a hint of spice, long and luscious.

You could try wines from the Southern Rhone, particularly if its a warmer year like 2007 and 2009. Although winemakers are given a fair bit of latitude on grape varieties, with up to 13 varieties permitted in Chateauneuf-du-Pape (CNdP, the most common red varieties are grenache and shiraz. Aside from the regional appellations like Cotes du Rhone Villages, crus worth looking for other than CNdP are Lirac, Rasteau, Vacqueyras and Gigondas. Producers such as Guigal, Chapoutier, Paul Jaboulet, Delas Freres, Domaine du Pegaü, Rayas, Vieux Télégraphe and Beaucastel.

[rens]

I'm with Tigger on this one. Buy and drink as widely as you can. Your tastes will change and there is nothing worse than having a cellar full of the same stuff-I know I had it a while back. I got some good auction prices but sending it to auction is a bit of a pain. Get different wines from different producers, countries and regions in 2-4 bottle lots. Only buy a few bottles of each wine (Max 4). Throw a few of the other colour in wether you prefer white or red put a handful of good wines from the non-preferred side in too-you will not regret it when you 'need' the other colour.

[felixp]

good summary Tigger.
But as 95% of old wine critics will tell you, and 95% of old wine lovers will agree, all roads lead to Burgundy.

The usual life cycle of an Australian wine lover goes like this:
1. 20-30's
Huge Aussie Shiraz, usually SA, central Victoria. Big Chardies, usually WA/Vic/Hunter. Every known beer made by man.
2. 30-40's
Bit of cool climate reds, slightly less huge ( ) shiraz. Hunter semillon, shiraz, riesling. WA cabs and domestic pinots. Getting interested in Old World wines, esp Bordeaux, Spain, Italy and CNDP. Exploring off-road regions like South Africa, Switzerland/Austria, Croatia, Greece, USA, Portuguese dry reds.
3. 40-50's
Purchasing swings from New World to Old world, off-loading wines at auction (usually from divorce, but also from change in taste) Buying slightly less and higher quality wines. First thoughts of "will i ever get to see this wine at full maturity?"
4. 50-60's
Dramatic swing to Old World, despite having a new-world cellar that would still make a 20-30 year old wine lover drool. Buying young classics with thought to either drinking very late in life or leaving for kids. Back-filling cellar with expensive wines that have become favourites.
New World purchases mostly limited to interesting wine with a sense of terroir, which you finally understand the importance of after 30+ years of cellaring and drinking.
5. 60-70's
Retirement brings the opportunity to savour wines you have cellared forever, and to travel and experience both the classics and off-beat wine regions of the world.
Drink less, but drink expensive almost 100% of the time.
Realise your 3500 bottle cellar needs drinking or distributing, almost certainly the latter!!!
6. 70-80's
No wine buying, but sharing with your family, complete with stories about where and how you purchased the bottle.
Finish drinking most of your classic wines that have been cellared for 40+ years. In my father's case, cases of 55, 59 and 61 Bordeaux. Fortunately shared with his sons . At 40-50 years old, virtually none are "past it"
7. 80-90's
Drinking the last of your classics, a different one every day (although unbeknowns to you, it was the same wine you drank yesterday)
Trying to differentiate the delicate aroma of a classic aged Burgundy and what might be in your pants.

my only advice to a young wine lover is to consider this: the classic wines are like Toorak real estate... the day you buy them will almost certainly be the cheapest they will be. Talk of the bordeaux "bubble" bursting has been here at least since the 1982 vintage, and I suspect before that. No matter how expensive they appear now, especially in great vintages, they will only become more expensive with time.
so, whist go ahead and enjoy those magnificent Aussie reds, but like your superannuation fund, be mindful of what you are probably going to like when you are 65 years old. Just one dozen purchased now will be incomparable treat for you in another 30-40 years.
want an example? I was an intern doctor in 1983, and paid what many thought was an absurd price of $19 a bottle en primeur for the 1982 Pichon Lalande. Well-cellared bottles of this are now amongst the greatest wines ever made.I purchased a case, on dad's advice. Glad I took the advice, wish I had got another two cases!!!

[Mike Hawkins]

"Alcoholic types" ?

As Polymer stated more effectively than me !

So bigger fruit, very ripe, smoother tannins, oaky vanilla, very full mouthfeel....Riper fruit tends to equal more alcohol as well.....

[Mahmoud Ali]

Brilliant! Made me smile, then laugh, then wish I had some '82 Pichon Lalande. Worth quoting again.

good summary Tigger.
But as 95% of old wine critics will tell you, and 95% of old wine lovers will agree, all roads lead to Burgundy.

The usual life cycle of an Australian wine lover goes like this:
1. 20-30's
Huge Aussie Shiraz, usually SA, central Victoria. Big Chardies, usually WA/Vic/Hunter. Every known beer made by man.
2. 30-40's
Bit of cool climate reds, slightly less huge ( ) shiraz. Hunter semillon, shiraz, riesling. WA cabs and domestic pinots. Getting interested in Old World wines, esp Bordeaux, Spain, Italy and CNDP. Exploring off-road regions like South Africa, Switzerland/Austria, Croatia, Greece, USA, Portuguese dry reds.
3. 40-50's
Purchasing swings from New World to Old world, off-loading wines at auction (usually from divorce, but also from change in taste) Buying slightly less and higher quality wines. First thoughts of "will i ever get to see this wine at full maturity?"
4. 50-60's
Dramatic swing to Old World, despite having a new-world cellar that would still make a 20-30 year old wine lover drool. Buying young classics with thought to either drinking very late in life or leaving for kids. Back-filling cellar with expensive wines that have become favourites.
New World purchases mostly limited to interesting wine with a sense of terroir, which you finally understand the importance of after 30+ years of cellaring and drinking.
5. 60-70's
Retirement brings the opportunity to savour wines you have cellared forever, and to travel and experience both the classics and off-beat wine regions of the world.
Drink less, but drink expensive almost 100% of the time.
Realise your 3500 bottle cellar needs drinking or distributing, almost certainly the latter!!!
6. 70-80's
No wine buying, but sharing with your family, complete with stories about where and how you purchased the bottle.
Finish drinking most of your classic wines that have been cellared for 40+ years. In my father's case, cases of 55, 59 and 61 Bordeaux. Fortunately shared with his sons . At 40-50 years old, virtually none are "past it"
7. 80-90's
Drinking the last of your classics, a different one every day (although unbeknowns to you, it was the same wine you drank yesterday)
Trying to differentiate the delicate aroma of a classic aged Burgundy and what might be in your pants.

my only advice to a young wine lover is to consider this: the classic wines are like Toorak real estate... the day you buy them will almost certainly be the cheapest they will be. Talk of the bordeaux "bubble" bursting has been here at least since the 1982 vintage, and I suspect before that. No matter how expensive they appear now, especially in great vintages, they will only become more expensive with time.
so, whist go ahead and enjoy those magnificent Aussie reds, but like your superannuation fund, be mindful of what you are probably going to like when you are 65 years old. Just one dozen purchased now will be incomparable treat for you in another 30-40 years.
want an example? I was an intern doctor in 1983, and paid what many thought was an absurd price of $19 a bottle en primeur for the 1982 Pichon Lalande. Well-cellared bottles of this are now amongst the greatest wines ever made.I purchased a case, on dad's advice. Glad I took the advice, wish I had got another two cases!!!

Cheers..................Mahmoud.

[Manno]

Well, after reading more replies (thanks again) it seems I might have to take an inevitable pallet change into account. Or hedge my bets at the very least. Im quite surprised that most (I understand not all as rens stated) wine drinkers seem to follow such a defined path in terms of taste preference. I'll absolutely take your word for it though as its a common theme that I'm reading. So taking that into account it seems theres some extensive research into french red required. Thanks duncan for a few starting points. Though I will admit at present, none of those names are familiar to me. Very good felix!! Being a late comer I wonder where I fit..... Your Toorak analogy makes perfect sense but unfortunately I doubt I could afford your 19 a bottle tip off in todays dollars. At this stage I have no idea what price range excellent burgundy falls in. MUCH work to do on my part, thats clear!! Thanks again guys. Its great hearing from such a knowledgable lot willing to help out a total novice.

[rens]

At this stage I have no idea what price range excellent burgundy falls in.

About the equivilant of a mortgage payment on that place in Toorak.

[phillisc]

Ahh Felix, I do agree with you.
I am still at the 20-30s mark, even though in real terms I am double that.

At my stage of life the only old world stock I have is a few champagnes.
You are right about appreciation...two cases of Wynns 82 JR on release $130 a dozen. Stupid price of $750 a bottle a couple of years ago at Langtons made it a pretty good buy...2022 should see them at $1000 and I will happily take the 12g (minus commissions of course) for a dozen.

The one thing missing to the profile though is an adequate salary...I would think $250 000 a year at the absolute minimum and probably more like 7 figures to have all that lot beautifully stashed away in the cellar.

At retirement, might be a case of Grange, but probably more like a case of "I'll drink anything" .

Cheers
Craig

[Manno]

About the equivilant of a mortgage payment on that place in Toorak.

Well thats a bit depressing.

Craig - Oh dear..... I didn't realise people were suggesting wines that somebody on a minimum of $250,000 might only afford!?!?

[phillisc]

Manno, just my thoughts only.
There are many a successful person on this forum...we are all successful, however some are successfully remunerated more than others.

At my age I am slowly making my way and yes will be alright in the long run...and yes could easily blow a few million in a day or two with all the hundreds of dozens that I would LIKE to buy.

I love Cabernet and unfortunately have not experienced the joys of even 5th growth all that often...Felix just makes me salivate and yes a trip to Europe later this year might give me the small opportunity of walking into a shop and getting something that reflects a good bottle.

I think it is truly amazing to share 50+ year old bottles with your dad...beautiful.
My dad got me into wine, we shared many a bottle and before he got ill a decade or so ago and died 6 years ago.
I enjoyed nothing more...and more's the pity that I can no longer do it.
Still I have two lads, so ready to take a punt that the three of us can share an old Wendouree or two...cork/stelvin willing.

If I were to look at first growths from the pick years, 10-20 thousand a case and more...thankfully and perhaps quite naively I am not into Pinot, as if you would need thousands more to purchase bottles from great vintages.

With life, school fees, house rennos...whatever hobby you might have...most here it seems are consumed by wine....$250g could be spent in a heartbeat.
Just my 2c

By the way Manno...happy buying and drinking

Cheers
Craig

[felixp]

Mahmoud, I too wish I had some 82 Pichon, but alas, they are all gone!!!

[VINH NGUYEN]

Mahmoud, I too wish I had some 82 Pichon, but alas, they are all gone!!!

Whats the greatest 82 bdx you've drunk felix? please say mouton lol

[felixp]

82 Pichon. Incredible, and incredibly consistent, wine. My desert island wine, wish I still had some. You can still pick up reliable provenance cases in France and the UK, but at AUD $12,000/case it ain't worth it (no wine is, IMO)

There are a few 09's and 10's that are better than it, but in between those vintages I have not had anything as good. (Mouton and LLC 86 come in as the best of the 83-08 era for me). Mind you, I have had 05 Troplong twice recently, and that wine might just about better the Pichon too.
Incidentally, I got plenty of 2000 Bordeaux, and I am beginning to think that was a mistake.. haven't seen a stellar wine from that vintage yet.
My palate must be bogan because I have never had an Ausone that truly rocked my boat, and I have seen many vintages of the stuff.

82 Mouton is fantastic, but the 86 is slightly better imo. But that is simply saying that I prefer the looks of Wen Liu to those of Scarlett Johansson. It is simply a matter of personal taste as both those vintages of Mouton are exceptional. BTW, as great a vintage as 82 is, I would bet all the tea on Shennan Lu that 05, 09 and 10 will all eclipse it in time.

[Manno]

Im back.

Spent the last few years researching.

[Michael McNally]

Im back.

Spent the last few years researching.

Welcome back. What did you discover?

Cheers

Michael

[phillisc]

Im back.

Spent the last few years researching.

Welcome back. What did you discover?

Cheers

Michael

Indeed Michael, was thinking the very thing...is there something existential happening on Auswine in the last day or two...a few youngsters, newbies whatever??
Perhaps Manno,Tuxy and SFG need to touch base, hold a mini offline and report back

Yes I have had a few this evening
Cheers Craig

[Manno]

I appreciate the fanfare guys. Please though, don’t make a fuss...

What did i discover? A few things.... First of all, i discovered that much of the replies in this thread were delivered with a certain accuracy that initially i may have been sceptical of (thanks again Tiggerk, polymer, duncan, felixp, CRAIG and all for your thoughts). Also, that i probably should have remained active and sought some more advice before setting off on my merry way. I discovered that a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing. That Langtons is evil. And that my ideal average bottle price needed some massaging.

And sadly, that even from my very limited and low budget visits to France i can absolutely understand why you would say that “all roads lead to Burgundy”. Unlikely as that may be in my lifetime.

I’ll post up some pics of what happened in the morning..

Cheers
Manny

[Manno]

Or not. Seems all decent image hosting programs go the same way. Any suggestions?

[Ozzie W]

Or not. Seems all decent image hosting programs go the same way. Any suggestions?

Try [url]https://postimages.org/[/url]

[Mahmoud Ali]

You can also use the Auswine Forum to attach pictures. Below the Quick Response box is a 'Full Editor & Preview' button. After clicking that button you will be taken to a reply box with more features. Near the bottom left is a tab labelled 'Attachment'. Click this tab and hit the 'Add files' buttom. This should bring up a window of your desktop files from which you can select your photograph. The only drawback is that the photo muct be of a certain size, too large and it will not load. I usually 'Save As' the photo and rexconfigure it to a smaller size. Off the top of my head I think the limit is 400 Mb, not sure.

Mahmoud.

[Manno]

Cheers for that. I do use photobucket but its started adding a dirty great watermark to every photo. No thank you.

So, i honestly cant remember why i chose the wines i did. But I was keen to taste some aged “iconic” Aussie reds, being as im in the peak big Aussie reds age bracket. Maybe i just signed up to Langtons and searched Aus red wine, sort price descending, scroll down into a certain price range, then googled those wines. Thats likely what i did. I can be sure of one thing though, there was definitey no purpose or system to the rampant clicking. I recall noting 98 was a popular vintage so that was a focus. A blind focus obviously. But none the less. I ended up with a few dozen wines to work my way through. And i did... heres a sample of the last of them. Sadly long gone.

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Discovering what wine can taste like, in this fashion, was not the greatest idea ive ever had. And subsequently ive had to spend the last couple of years learning to appreciate wines that i can actually afford to drink on a regular basis. I didnt take a photo of everything i/we drank. Had no real intention of documenting it as such. But heres a few pics of what ive tasted. Apologies if the photos arent the right size, this is being done from my phone.

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I can recall which i did/didnt enjoy and could possibly put them in an order of honours but i didnt take tasting notes. And to be honest they wouldnt be much use with the lack of skill i have in explaining what exactly im experiencing.

Duncan was spot on though with the Greenock Creek call. This massive 2005 Alices was a huge favorite. Spiced fruit completely overpowering the high alc. Some funky meaty notes too. But lacking something id later discover....

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Some were paired up.

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Cullen was lovely. Georgias paddock was big and spicy. 389 was probably the pick of those. One thing i did notice with most of the older Yalumba wines was the corks. While intact were so crumbly?!?

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The 06 Reserves were very stubborn. This was marked down for bolognese duty until a taste on day 3 i discovered a completely different wine.

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Dragged the family on a road trip to SA for a week to get away, and taste some wine. Many wineries, and many many wines the standouts for me were an 08 Meshach, a Torbrek Les Amis and for some strange reason a Turkey Flat rosé. A few gifts for family and friends made it home with me.

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This Jack Mann was outstanding! And yes, we occasionally label our children.

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This Black Label was another standout.

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Unfortunately the bp was a little hot. Possibly not cellared ideally.

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I read a brief discussion in one thread about aussie pinot or the actual lack of aussie pinot. Obviously i wouldn’t know about whats considered true pinot, but this was amazing. And I’ve subsequently bought a couple more of the same wine/vintage. Lots going on here. Fruits i wasn’t expecting to taste. The cork was shot, but the wine was fine. Excuse the backdrop......

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The Giaconda was up there with the Astralis, Runrig etc. And opened my eyes to the wide variety of wines i could be trying. I loved an Apsley Gorge pinot from tassie and have that on my list. But again still lacking something...

Took this little guy to reveal it to me. 2010 Redman cabernet. Had the lovely clean fruit, great earthy savoury notes. Plus.... what i taste as wet gravel, graphite or something like that. And i really like it. An extra dimension. So i drank a few of those.

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Unfortunately i didn’t enjoy other vintages as much as i did the 2010. A 2013 Bowen Estate was good. And i enjoyed some Zema of a similar style.

If you made it this far, thanks. And please, feel free to comment, criticise, advise, anything! Its all appreciated.

To be cont’d...