TN: AFWAC - New Zealand minus the Sauvignon Blanc 29/4/13

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TN: AFWAC - New Zealand minus the Sauvignon Blanc 29/4/13

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Last week the Adelaide Fine Wine Appreciation Club (AFWAC) had a look at a number of wines from New Zealand, deliberately omitting Sauvignon Blanc to focus on other wines from the country. I'd like to thank everyone who attended this enjoyable night and the rest of the committee for organising it; AFWAC meets the last Monday of every month, and anyone in Adelaide who's interested in joining and/or attending can contact the club at afwac365@gmail.com


2012 Drift Pinot Gris, Marlborough (screwcap): 13.5% alc. Pale straw/green with some spritz on the glass. Very fruity and yeasty, pale ale and juicyfruit gum, some white sambuca, and then sweaty/cat piss characters. The palate's even more in Sauvignon Blanc-like territory, passionfruit and banana with a massive hit of harsh acidity mid-palate, finishing rather hot and steely. Uninspiring stuff.

2012 Wild Rock Sur Lie Pinot Gris, Marlborough (screwcap): 13% alc. Fairly closed compared to the Drift, more peachy and a touch toasty, before some sweaty phenolic characters appear; a creamy entry leads to another whack of harsh acidity mid-palate, not as bad as the Drift but still unpleasant, finishing rather bitter with some passionfruit. These two Pinot Gris aren't an improvement from your basic, bottom-end, bulk produced Kiwi Savvy, if anything they're a downgrade.

2008 Kumeu River Village Chardonnay, Auckland (screwcap): 13% alc. Brassy, straw/yellow. Smells like a young Hunter semillon, lemony and grassy, some magazine print and struck flint, a little honey already with breathing; a sweet entry leads to a palate full of grapefruit and flint/spicy oak, finishing crisp and minerally with good length. The acidity again is just a touch on the high side mid-palate, but there's not as much heat as the previous wines.

2008 Kumeu River Mates Vineyard Chardonnay, Auckland (screwcap): 13.5% alc. Brassy, medium to dark straw. Sweeter than the Village Chardonnay, lemon and fig with a touch of honeycomb and lanolin, still very flinty though; there's more fig and spice on the palate with acidity that dances on the middle of the tongue, finishing with milky malo and spicy/toasted cashew oak. It's almost a little old-fashioned, but its texture and complexity cannot be questioned; easily the best of the white wines tonight, although admittedly there wasn't much competition.

2008 Craggy Range Fletcher Family Vineyard Riesling, Marlborough (screwcap): 11.4% alc. Pale-ish straw/green with some spritz on the glass. Full of kerosene, durian and diesel fumes on the nose and palate right from the first whiff; the palate itself is surprisingly very dry with an awful, bitter and green finish that wouldn't surprise me if it could strip paint, no sign of the expected 10-15g RS here. This was a shocker.

2010 Escarpment Pinot Noir, Martinborough (DIAM): 14% alc. Medium crimson. Attractive nose full of mushroom and stalks, shoe polish, plums dusted in castor sugar, beetroot, cigar box and white pepper. The palate's very earthy and dry, with a huge spike of acidity and heat mid-palate, finishing with bitter tannins, lots of grip, but it's too disjointed, hot and stalky for its own good.

2007 Mt. Difficulty Pinot Noir, Central Otago (screwcap): 14% alc. Light to almost medium crimson. Riper and spicier nose than the 2010 Escarpment, cherry, crispy duck skin and white pepper; a sweet entry leads to an earthy palate of cherry and mushroom, sage and spices, but again the acidity and heat mid-palate sticks out and lingers through to the dry finish.

2007 Neudorf Moutere Pinot Noir, Nelson (screwcap): 14% alc. Medium to darkish garnet. A bit more rustic and feral than the Mt. Difficulty but in a good way, raspberries, barnyard, tobacco and spice, slightly cheesy and meaty too. A sweet cherry entry leads to a tidy palate with bright acidity mid-palate, not as hot or confronting, finishing crisp and minerally, really needing food at this stage. Overall it was the best of the five pinot noirs tonight, but I still feel 14% alcohol is just too high for Kiwi pinot.

2003 Escarpment Pinot Noir, Martinborough (cork): 13% alc. Murky, medium garnet. Volatile nose with touches of tea chest, earth and leather; the palate's fresher, soft and round with strawberries, game and cherry, struck metal and smoked meats, tingly acidity and a finish that's just beginning to dry out. The stalky characters three and a half years ago have gone leaving a lovely front and mid-palate texture, but the fruit's already well on the way out; at tens years old it's barely hanging on by a thread.

2003 Mt. Difficulty Pinot Noir, Central Otago (screwcap): 14% alc. Light to medium garnet. This wine last tried three years ago has always been too stinky/rubbery on the nose, and that smell hasn't moved; the palate's better with more prominent cherries and mushroom, but there's also minty heat mid-palate, leading to a spicy/earthy finish. On the surface it's younger than the Escarpment, yet I feel it will never win me over.

2006 Dry River Lovat Syrah, Martinborough (cork): 13.5% alc. Medium to very dark crimson/black. Sweet and smoky, blackberries, soy, toasted nuts and tobacco, backed by spicy (French?) oak; the palate's sweet and syrupy, medium to full weight with black cherry and black olive, finishing with white pepper. A lot of local comparisons were mentioned by the group; Clarendon Hills, Ngeringa, Clare, maybe that's why it attracted more than twice as many WOTN votes as any other red.

2005 John Forrest Collection Gimblett Gravels Cabernet Sauvignon, Hawkes Bay (screwcap): 14% alc. Medium to dark red with a hint of purple. Opens with a massive, ever changing bouquet packed full of youthful fruit and cedar/lemony oak, blueberries, touches of shoe polish, tar, tobacco, ink and iodine, dried chilli pepper, ground paprika, peppermint, tomato skin, crushed ants and black pepper. The palate doesn't disappoint, full-weight with chunky tannins and blackberry/blueberry fruit running through its core, finishing extremely long and chalky with malty oak way in the background. Outstanding - so much about this wine reminded me of a young John Riddoch or Bin 707 that it had to get my WOTN vote.

2006 Craggy Range Sophia, Hawkes Bay (cork): 85% Merlot, 10% Cabernet Franc, 4% Cabernet Sauvignon, 1% Malbec, 20 months in 60% new oak, 14% alc. Medium to almost dark red/crimson. Sweet nose of cherry cola and charred fireplace bricks, black pepper and mixed spices, with noticeable lift/bite throughout; the palate's riper again, with kirsch and high acidity/heat mid-palate, finishing very dry. Good, but third best for me tonight.


Unanimously voted white wine WOTN - 2008 Kumeu River Mates Vineyard Chardonnay

The overall group votes for red WOTN:

1st: 2016 Dry River Lovat Syrah
2nd: 2006 Craggy Range Sophia
3rd: 2005 John Forrest Collection Cabernet Sauvignon


Cheers,
Ian
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Re: TN: AFWAC - New Zealand minus the Sauvignon Blanc 29/4/1

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Ian,

Coincidentally, had the same vintage of the Kumea Mates over the weekend, and I definitely concur on the quality of it. I was also the still white wine of the night for us, and quite a few of us (myself included) thought it might have been Burgundian/Chablis, especially with that flintiness. However, that palate was quite "new world"

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Re: TN: AFWAC - New Zealand minus the Sauvignon Blanc 29/4/1

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Not a particularly good choice of NZ whites other than the Mates.

Pinot Gris is probably the most improved NZ wine style over recent years, admittedly off a very low base. Your two choices though would not be really be considered contenders.

The Pinot Noirs were not really a good selection either vintage wise.

Being familiar with the other reds you tried I would agree that the Forrest cab is certainly a nice drop.

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Not a particularly good choice of NZ whites other than the Mates.

Pinot Gris is probably the most improved NZ wine style over recent years, admittedly off a very low base. Your two choices though would not be really be considered contenders.

The Pinot Noirs were not really a good selection either vintage wise.


In Adelaide there is a limited choice of what is available. If we were to do this again what would you suggest?
Pinot Vintages. What, in your experience, are vintages to chase?

many thanks in advance for your feedback

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Re: TN: AFWAC - New Zealand minus the Sauvignon Blanc 29/4/1

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The KR Mates, Dry River Syrah, Craggy Sophia, and John Forrest are all very good/ excellent wines. In some vintages they can be outstanding. Not surprised with the list of your favourites

The 2008 Mates was a strong vintage, perhaps not quite as good as 06 and 10 but still very solid.

John Forrest too. 2005 was a pretty good vintage for Hawkes Bay and Forrest is a very strong performer under the radar a bit in terms of Hawkes Bay wines being a producer based in Marlborough

Some of the earlier vintages of the Craggy's suffered a bit from VA influence which some find offputting. I can't remember if the 06 Sophia was one of these wines. They also went pretty heavy on the new oak in the first few vintages (happens in a new growing winery increasing barrel stocks!??). I think 07 was the vintage where they seemed to tone this back

The Neudorf Pinot Moutere Pinot is definitely from a great Nelson Vintage. Personally I am not a huge fan of their style of Pinot, they need a long long sleep in the cellar to come around if they do at all. I'd rather spend my $$ on their stunning Chardonnay

I am a huge fan of Escarpment Pinot Noirs but in particular their more expensive Insight Series Single Vineyard examples. The one you had was their stock standard jobbie

The other wine you had I would term as "should be good/ acceptable" but they certainly aren't in the top rungs of NZ wines.

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Hi Phill

I think vintage wise with NZ Pinot Noir your safest bet is 2010. It was probably the best vintage ever in Marl and very good in Central Otago as well.

As to NZ whites that you might find in Adelaide, from distant memory you might be able to find Nautilus, Greywacke and Riverby. You should get a good range of Chard, Riesling, Pinot gris and even sav blanc from them. The better Hawkes Bay Chards would also be worth a look and the real sleeper wine from NZ is central Otago Riesling. I'm just not quite sure what labels you might have down there.

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n4sir wrote:2005 John Forrest Collection Gimblett Gravels Cabernet Sauvignon, Hawkes Bay (screwcap): 14% alc. Medium to dark red with a hint of purple. Opens with a massive, ever changing bouquet packed full of youthful fruit and cedar/lemony oak, blueberries, touches of shoe polish, tar, tobacco, ink and iodine, dried chilli pepper, ground paprika, peppermint, tomato skin, crushed ants and black pepper. The palate doesn’t disappoint, full-weight with chunky tannins and blackberry/blueberry fruit running through its core, finishing extremely long and chalky with malty oak way in the background. Outstanding – so much about this wine reminded me of a young John Riddoch or Bin 707 that it had to get my WOTN vote.


That's a great endorsement for this wine. Shows you something at $40 can stand up to something more than twice or five times the asking price.

Any thoughts on a drinking window?

Thanks for the notes. As always a fantastic review Ian.
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Those Forrest HB reds are very impressive, esp the 2005 and 2007 if I recall correctly. Try the Syrah as well.

While both vintages should be drinking well now, there is no reason why they won't go for another five years at least.

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From memory there is a place called Melbourne Street Cellars, or something like that, that has quite a good selection of decent NZ wines in Adelaide.

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