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St. Henri Shiraz 2003
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:21 pm
by chewy_1974
Just bought a St. Henri shiraz to keep. Just after some thoughts about this wine. I have never tried this vintage but bought it as a small investment.
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:39 pm
by John #11
Welcome to this most excellent forum.
There are a few tasting notes for the 2003 St Henri, posted on this site.
Why don't you try the Search function?
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:35 am
by Craig(NZ)
Just a hint on 'investment'
1. I dont believe it exists. Wine speculation maybe, but not investment. There may be the odd exception but most of the time you are just dreaming about returns that after costs just dont exist
2. That aside if you do go for it one of the first rules would be buy top vintages. 2003 was not a top vintage.
However I did try the 2003 St Henri yesterday and I have to admit I was surprised in finding I really liked it. Its a nice controlled wine.
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:17 am
by Bick
Craig(NZ) wrote:2003 was not a top vintage.
While I know that's true, I've been surprised at the number of wines that are given very high scores by the likes of JH from this vintage. The St Henri is an example - he considers it just as good or better than the 96 or 98, for instance - both considered much better vintages on the whole. I guess fine wine can be good even in bad vintages... (I'd stand by your advice as a general rule however)
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:42 am
by Craig(NZ)
While I know that's true, I've been surprised at the number of wines that are given very high scores by the likes of JH from this vintage. The St Henri is an example - he considers it just as good or better than the 96 or 98, for instance - both considered much better vintages on the whole. I guess fine wine can be good even in bad vintages... (I'd stand by your advice as a general rule however)
yes but you will find the rich asians buying these wines to drink mixed with coke just have a look at a few vintage charts. exceptions are lost on most
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:54 pm
by L plater
I've had quite a few of these in recent months - my brother in law bought several dozen in a cheap deal and used it as the main red at christmas/New Year functions
It's still a great drop with classic velvety Barossa shiraz flavours - rich chocolate, plum and spice on the palate, but when tasted alongside better vintages was noticably short.
From what I've read of it, it may not benefit much from cellaring further.
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:59 pm
by Attila
The 2003 St Henri is a delicious velvety wine to drink now and over the next 8 years. It's surprisingly forward so I don't know how long you are planning on keeping it. Personally I think this wine is already too expensive for what it is.
As for investment I'd buy something else from the Penfold's portfolio.
Cheers,
Attila
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:30 pm
by chewy_1974
Thank you for all the replies
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:15 pm
by Ed W
Craig(NZ) wrote:yes but you will find the rich asians buying these wines to drink mixed with coke just have a look at a few vintage charts. exceptions are lost on most
gee craig, you are still living in the age of fine kiwi cuisine equals to meat and three veg!