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Hi Good Peoples,

You know the drill, tasting notes, vibes or impressions welcome.
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Ric
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Couple of vinos with Bacchus last night.

06 Pegasus Bay Riesling which seemed more elegant and refined than I remember it. In tip top shape and looks as though it will cellar very well for those that can keep their hands off it.

Also 06 Kumeu River Mates Vineyard Chardonnay which was very scrummy. Already well integrated with a smokey savoury edge. Ultra refined.
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2003 ST HALLETT Old Block Shiraz-Barossa

Always pain before pleasure.
Having tasted the absolutely terrifying 2004 St Hallett Blackwell Shiraz ($25) first, with green fruits, lack of concentration, and a finish that faded quicker than the memory of a bad Hollywood movie, I looked at the Old Block suspiciously.
Needed not to worry.

Interesting, very gamey, old world nose. Fragrant and mysterious, it reminded me some old Rhone stuff.
Medium bodied, flavourful and balanced fruit with velvety
Shiraz flavours. Very tasty and engaging, the wine was unfolding in the glass beautifully. Unique experience, this wine is very complex and delicious. Lovely now but will cellar for 15 years. One of the best Old Blocks I’ve tried. $60
95 points.

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Attila wrote:2003 ST HALLETT Old Block Shiraz-Barossa

Always pain before pleasure.
Having tasted the absolutely terrifying 2004 St Hallett Blackwell Shiraz ($25) first, with green fruits, lack of concentration, and a finish that faded quicker than the memory of a bad Hollywood movie, I looked at the Old Block suspiciously.
Needed not to worry.

Interesting, very gamey, old world nose. Fragrant and mysterious, it reminded me some old Rhone stuff.
Medium bodied, flavourful and balanced fruit with velvety
Shiraz flavours. Very tasty and engaging, the wine was unfolding in the glass beautifully. Unique experience, this wine is very complex and delicious. Lovely now but will cellar for 15 years. One of the best Old Blocks I’ve tried. $60
95 points.

Cheers,
Attila


I think you got a dud Blackwell, I don't remember it being green. My tasting group ranked it just ahead of Kay's Hillside Shiraz 2004 and Elderton Barossa Shiraz 2004 and a few other 2004 reds in a blind tasting last year not that long after release.

If you like the 2003 OB (a great effort from a tough vintage) then you should go ballistic over the 2004, tasting them side by side at the winery in September clearly showed the vintage differences, with the 2004 being definitely the best youngish OB I've ever tried.
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Attended the Australian Small Winemakers Show in Stanthorpe yesterday. Unfortunately I was driving and as such could only tast a few wines.

Harewood Estate Riesling 2007. Lovely floral aromas. Flavours of lemon and lime which sustained along the palate. Stylish and elegant.

Robert Channon Chardonnay 2007. A delightfully balanced and enjoyable Chardonnay. Fantastic.

Moss Brothers Semillon 2007.
Zesty aromas of passion/pineapple and light stone fruits. Did not seem to live up to the initial smell.

Thomas Wines Semillon 2006. Aromas of cut grass, asparagus, herbs, lemon and lime. Seamless on the palate. A beautiful wine that I hope to enjoy again in the future.

Hugh Hamilton Verdelho 2007. Aromas were grassy with a little mineral. A tad lacking on the taste test for me, although it did score high at the show.

Rolf Binder @ Veritas Gewurztraminer 2007. Lovely wine. Balanced acidity with good length.

Geddes Cabernet Sauvignon 2006.
Lovely aromas of cherries, spices, light oak. Great length. VA+, balanced tannins.

Whiskey Gully Cabernet Sauvignon 2005.
A delight to taste. Cherries, casis, fruit cake and spices with oak. Persistent with great tannins.

Northern Melbourne Institute of Tafe Cabernet Sauvignon 2003. Light brown/bright red in colour. The oak was a little overpowering on the nose. Tasted younger and lacking in fruit.

Redman Cabernet Sauvignon 2004. Good oak aromas of vanillin, spice and stewed fruit. Fantastic cabernet from Coonawarra. Persistent, smooth, and luscious.

Stanton & Killeen NV Muscat a Petit Grans Rouge.
A perfect finish to the day!

Happy Sunday Everybody.

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1992 Eileen Hardy Shiraz
A clear highlight of the week. Second last bottle of 6. Now fully resolved, great fruit, tanin structure and length. Excellent

2005 Paul Jaboulet 45 Parallele Cotes Du Rhone
I seem to be topping up cases with the odd lower end French a the moment. I wonder what this sells for in Europe? Not really value at $18. Interesting nose, scented and promising. Palate just plain dull.

2005 Ferraris Shiraz (Hunter Valley)
Day one simple sweet fruit. Day two showing more richness and depth. The wine is coming off fairly young vines - shows some promise but a bit on the high price side at the moment at $20 - $15 would be okay

2004 Warrabilla Marsanne
Could only be bothered drinking 3/4 bottle between 2. Nothing particularly wrong just lacked interest.

2007 Scarborough Pinot Noir Rose
Fair value at $15. I probably prefer the Rockford Alicante but that is a few dollars more.

Nearly time to head to the cellar for something for tonight. Thank God daylight savings has finally started - hopefully we will all sleep a bit better now. Chances are in Canberra it is the huge temperature range each day as much as the light which has been waking me up :roll:
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1996 Veuve Cliquot- Muscular, yeasty, slightly chalky which I didn't enjoy. Have decided that I don't enjoy the Veuve style of champagne.

1996 BVE Black Pepper shiraz- What a wonderful wine!!! Rich aromas of mocha, smoky oak, pepper, and a powerful palate with dark berries, a hint of jamminess, finishing off with fine tannins.

Looking forward to trying the 2004 Majella Malleea tonight.

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Only one wine this week inspiring me to write.

1999 Farmer's Daughter Shiraz
My one and only bottle. A beautiful wine. Medium intensity red/maroon colour lightening to a pale pink at the edge. A savoury nose with provencal herbs and a whiff of raspberry and cherry. A slight volatile lift. Red fruits (raspberry, cherry and redcurrant) on the palate finishing with a fair whack of grip without any discernible tannin. They must be superfine. The finish is savoury and grippy and leaves me wanting food. In a blind line-up I would not have picked this as an aussie and would have sworn blind it was a Crozes-Hermitage. The volatility on the nose suggests drink up but otherwise it could cellar for a few years yet. Perfect with a lunch of Rebecca's duck breast and field mushrooms with a blackcurrant and port sauce and a side of potato gratin. Excellent.

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DJ wrote:2005 Paul Jaboulet 45 Parallele Cotes Du Rhone
I seem to be topping up cases with the odd lower end French a the moment. I wonder what this sells for in Europe? Not really value at $18. Interesting nose, scented and promising. Palate just plain dull.


Last time I was over there it was only 2.50€ !!!

For roughly $AUD 5 you probably shouldn't complain, but for $18 its probably a stretch !

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A rainy Sunday, not many of these in Adelaide for some time.

After a brief break from wining, we thought we would return with something deserving of our pleasure.

2001 Murdock Coonawarra Cabernet Sauvignon
Deep crimson, heady aromas of blackberries, pepper, cassis and mocha, concentrated and alluring.
It needed a generous decant, and opened nicely.
Beautiful drinking, starting to soften, but has enough power and glory for another 25 years.

If you have some, no problems, leave it for another rainy day!

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McWilliam's Limited Release Riverina Botrytis Semillon 2004
Dried fruit on the nose with hints of botryits. Massively concentrated dried apricot flavours, some hydrocarbon tendencies, viscous and lovely mouthfeel, good balance, good length (tasted "Noble One" some years ago and was very impressed). Best nobel rot I've tasted so far while I've living in Australia. Normally nobel rot wines develop very nicely with cellaring. Why aren't the Australian botrytis wines expected to age well? To little acid??? Anyone tried to cellar Australian noble rots?

Clonacilla Hilltops Shiraz 2006
Anise bouquet, very Rhone in style, well structured, firm tannins, cherry dominates aftertaste. Although it's a pleasant wine to drink now, I'm sure years in the cellar will do this wine good. Very cool to see that an Australia shiraz can be so similar to Rhone in style.

Tamar Ridge "Devil's Corner" Tasmania Pinot Noir 2006
Ruby red, aromas of cherry. A little disappointing on the palate, some earthy notes, still some cherry left, good acidity. OK length.
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Ingoldby Chardonnay 2006 Big chardy with loads of mouthfilling, ripe peachy flavours and noticeable oak, nice longish finish. Excellent value for $10.85, I'll be getting more of this as a 6pk for $10.30, summer having already arrived here with 32C max temp. Halliday's 92/100 rating is entirely appropriate.

St Hallett Faith Shiraz 2005 This is bloody good Barossa Shiraz for less than $15. And Brian reckons the 2006 is even better.....I'll be looking out for that!

Thorn-Clarke Shotfire Ridge Quartage 2005 Another big red from the Barossa. Not especially varietal but it is a blend. Can see why it won all of those trophies.

The Wilson Vineyard Polish Hill River Riesling 2005 Shows a bit of bottle age on the palate but has plenty of juicy lime, some sweetness that must be from ripe fruit (GW is adamant it was fermented to dryness) and nice citrus acid on the good-length finish. Exemplary riesling. Last bottle :(

Thorn-Clarke Shotfire Ridge Shiraz 2004 Last bottle mistakenly opened instead of another Quartage 2005. Big plummy, fruity Barossa Shiraz that's just about eaten up the oak but it's still there. Very good, but I think I might prefer the Faith 2005 in a back-to-back tasting.

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Oh I thought of another wine that I had worth writing up. Was a c-thru so it slipped my mind :)

2005 Yalumba FDW 7c Chardonnay
Very pale cream colour. A nose of lime butter and nectarines with some toasty oak. Complex new world style. Similar palate to the nose. Wonderful flavours, slightly lean mid-palate but with a very lengthy finish. May flesh out a somewhat with a year or two more bottle age. Excellent and value plus.

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1996 Kingston Estate Cabernet Sauvignon.

Given to me by a friend who had dug it out of their parents cellar, it was definitely past its prime, and the fruit was fading. The cork disintegrated, so I wonder whether it had a bit of taint going on too.

Olive Grove Estate Sparkling White (current release).

Lovely honey and toasty aromas under this crown sealed gem. Gorgeous mouthfeel and bubble fizz. Thank god I had it -after- the dead Cabernet.

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Craig(NZ) wrote:06 Pegasus Bay Riesling ... will cellar very well for those that can keep their hands off it.

Also 06 Kumeu River Mates Vineyard Chardonnay which was very scrummy.

I have a few of each of these in the cellar - agree they're both great - I do find it hard to keep my paws off the Pagasus! For me this last week, just a couple worth mentioning:

Pirathon Shiraz 2005. Wow! Lovely nose, dark chocolate, pepper and bags of fruit, very harmonius - excellent value at about NZ$34. I got a bottle to taste on the basis of the review on Torbwine - so thanks for the recommendation Ric, I'll be buying a half-case of this now. (Cork)

Dr Loosen Erdener Treppchen Kabinett Riesling 2006 Very nice, spritzy and fruity - only 7.5% alcohol! Great for a picnic perhaps. (Screwcap; NZ$32)
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I'm getting back into the swing of things again, a pretty good weekend and a 1996/1998 Bordeaux tasting tonight. 8)

Friday night I dropped into my local on the way home & they had the standard Yellowtail wines on tasting - even in the plastic shot glasses it's easy to see why these are so popular with the casual buyer. They're typically low in acid and fairly high on sweetness, and while all have the feel of being 'heavily manufactured' they're good BBQ jobs for under AUD$8:

2006 Merlot: sweet cherry, medium weight, not very complex.
2006 Shiraz: green streak at first, then very ripe/porty mid-weight cherry fruit, minty finish.
2006 Cabernet: the pick of the bunch, although it's not very varietal; heavy milk chocolate/mulberry jam characters, best weight & feel.


I went to a Wynns instore Saturday, and I think the hot & humid weather really knocked around the wines and made a lot look a bit blowy/flabby:

2007 Riesling: bathroom scents, heavy lime/citrus: served way too warm.
2006 Chardonnay: cashew oak stuck out a mile, although there's good stonefruit too: also way too warm.
2006 Shiraz: a little pongy at first, then raspberries, cedar, pepper; good length but thin.
2004 Cabernet Shiraz Merlot: heavily developed, leathery and bricking already, nice but drink very soon.
2005 Cabernet: chocolate/rum & raisin, fat mouthfeel, hot minty finish. I got a bottle to try in better conditions later on.
2004 Johnson's Block: like the Shiraz in many ways, but no US oak so it's tighter & less sweet. A lot better with breathing so it could be a sleeper.
2004 John Riddoch: Everything a JR should have; ripe blackcurrant, capsicum and vanilla/cedar/spice and earthy/coal on the nose, and a full-bodied and long palate. This was surprisingly approachable for the label, although I wondered whether the conditions may have had an influence here too. That said it didn’t appear unbalanced or ungainly, just bloody good.


Saturday night had a 2004 Chapel Hill Sangiovese/Cabernet with roast chicken - very tart/sour cherries at first, but was very good with the food & continued to get better until the bottle was empty.

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Step Rd Langhorne Creek Cabernet 05
The perfect Sunday night come-down - generous, delicious, inky and rich. Not terribly varietal - hardly would have picked it as a CS but very nice and worth revisiting.
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I've been taking it easy booze-wise in preparation for the Auckland Quarter Marathon so after completing that yesterday morning (1h 12m) I thought I'd treat myself.

1998 Tyrrell's Vat 9 Shiraz The cork came out a bit too easily for my liking. As expected there were definite hints of oxidisation, but it opened up a little in the glass. Slightly lacking in depth but this could be a result of the spoilage. A bit disappointing. Let's hope that my other remaining bottle has not suffered the same fate.

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My weekend started on Friday with a quick jaunt to Langhorne Creek. Visited Bleasdale and Bremerton in the short time available. Overall I was pretty disappointed by the red wines, the 04 and 05 Vintages seemed to be very Tannic and not overly approachable at the moment. Highlights for me were:

2007 Bremerton Sauvignon Blanc
2007 Bremerton Verdhelo
2007 Bremerton Rose
1996 Bremerton Forified Shiraz
Bleasdale ‘Old Wise One’ Tawny Port

Lunch at Bremerton was very good. Word is that there is 300 cases of 2005 Old Adam Shiraz, after the success of the 2004, there is a huge battle on the allocation of this wine.

Other wines consumed:

NV Jansz Sparkling

I’ve kept this ex Winery for about 6-7 years, was drinking brilliantly, great start to the weekend.

2003 Gibbston Valley Pinot Noir (Central Otago, NZ)

Very nice wine, dark fruits,good structure and finish. Drinking in its window at the moment. Very good

2003 Bridgewater Mill Shiraz Viognier

After the tannic beasts of Langhorne Creek early in the day, this was very good. Nice pepper, spice, Christmas cake, the viognier component just showing its head. Very good also.

1999 Petaluma Riesling

This surprised me, still looking and tasting quite youthful. Lime juice, lemon zest, touch of honey, acidity showing still. Will hold for sometime I suspect.

2007 Shingleback Semillon Sauvignon Blanc (McLaren Vale)

Felt this was lacking any real structure, a touch grassy, unbalanced with level of acidity.

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Pirathon Shiraz 2005. Wow! Lovely nose, dark chocolate, pepper and bags of fruit, very harmonius - excellent value at about NZ$34. I got a bottle to taste on the basis of the review on Torbwine - so thanks for the recommendation Ric, I'll be buying a half-case of this now. (Cork)


is this the one that got a gold at nziws?? if so yes it is a good wine. very polished oak driven but in a good way, quite unique and screams out $$$$. good vlaue id expect
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Scanlon wrote:1996 Kingston Estate Cabernet Sauvignon.

Given to me by a friend who had dug it out of their parents cellar, it was definitely past its prime, and the fruit was fading. The cork disintegrated, so I wonder whether it had a bit of taint going on too.


** How does the level of taint in a cork relate to its structural integrity?

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n4sir wrote:
2004 John Riddoch - Everything a JR should have; ripe blackcurrant, capsicum and vanilla/cedar/spice and earthy/coal on the nose, and a full-bodied and long palate. This was surprisingly approachable for the label, although I wondered whether the conditions may have had an influence here too. That said it didn’t appear unbalanced or ungainly, just bloody good.



Agree that this is truely excellent. i tasted it at the Coonawarra roadshows and though it very impressive. Tasted next to all the other 04 and 05 beauties, this really stood out. I haven't got aroundto buying any yet but I'm definitely getting a six pack at least.

Drank a lot over the weekend but not all of it was wine. Still, at the food and wine fair on saturday managed to get through:

06 Wither Hills Savignon Blanc 2 bottles of this down the hatch. As always a bottle full of sunshine and a crowd pleaser. Lovely pasionfruit flavours mostly.

04 Seppelt Original Sparkling Shiraz First of my dozen and it didn't disappoint. Lovely medium bubble, good depth of flavour, nice blueberry, mulberry juicey flavours. Enjoyed it a lot. I can see me getting through a bit of this over summer.
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Craig(NZ) wrote:
Pirathon Shiraz 2005. Wow! Lovely nose, dark chocolate, pepper and bags of fruit, very harmonius - excellent value at about NZ$34. I got a bottle to taste on the basis of the review on Torbwine - so thanks for the recommendation Ric, I'll be buying a half-case of this now. (Cork)


is this the one that got a gold at nziws?? if so yes it is a good wine. very polished oak driven but in a good way, quite unique and screams out $$$$. good vlaue id expect

I didn't know and had to look it up, but yes, it seems it did. Lovely stuff.
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1998 Charles Melton Cabernet Sauvignon

Good cork, wonderful nose, sweet varnish characters, still holding its own

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beef wrote:
Scanlon wrote:1996 Kingston Estate Cabernet Sauvignon.

Given to me by a friend who had dug it out of their parents cellar, it was definitely past its prime, and the fruit was fading. The cork disintegrated, so I wonder whether it had a bit of taint going on too.


** How does the level of taint in a cork relate to its structural integrity?


Honestly I was just hypothesising. I don't have a lot of experience with 10 year old wines, but I thought a dry and crumbly cork was a bad sign.

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