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What is in a name?

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 6:58 pm
by James Douglas Hook
A little scribble and map of some of the old hamlets and farms of the McLaren Vale (Valley). Tatachilla, Taranga, Daringa, Bellevue, Bethany, Whites Valley. Landcross farm - some are still hanging on as wine brands or business names.

http://djsgrowers.blogspot.com/2009/04/what-is-in-name.html

If anyone knows anymore please let me know.

Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 11:09 am
by jeremy
A great link deserves a bump, even if I can't add anything of worth. The three "L"s - Learning, learning, learning...

Thanks James.

Finished history article

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:30 am
by James Douglas Hook
The forgotten history of McLaren Vale.

Manning, Kelly, Reynell, Olivers, Pridmore and of course Thomas Hardy - the man, not the company that followed.

4.0 Mega Download.

http://lazyballerina.com/Winefightclub/ ... June09.pdf

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:59 am
by pstarr
Thanks James. Have you ever spent time with the Kay Brothers diaries? Fascinating resource with a continuity pretty much straight through from founding until now.

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 11:03 am
by James Douglas Hook
pstarr wrote:Thanks James. Have you ever spent time with the Kay Brothers diaries? Fascinating resource with a continuity pretty much straight through from founding until now.


We have just finished looking at all of the rainfall from the diary. 1914 has 280mm.

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:00 am
by jeremy
Loving what James is doing with this history of McLaren and it's vines/wines etc. Thankyou. I felt really bad not enjoying a Kay brothers shiraz and saying so on forums recently. I can only call it as I see it though, and re-iterate that while my thoughts could be of use, they do come from someone very young in terms of their wine journey and rather unschooled, unlike Mr Hook, Mr Starr & others.

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:25 am
by pstarr
jeremy wrote:Loving what James is doing with this history of McLaren and it's vines/wines etc. Thankyou. I felt really bad not enjoying a Kay brothers shiraz and saying so on forums recently. I can only call it as I see it though, and re-iterate that while my thoughts could be of use, they do come from someone very young in terms of their wine journey and rather unschooled, unlike Mr Hook, Mr Starr & others.


No need to feel bad - call them as you see them. I personally prefer the 2004 Amery shiraz to the 2005 version (don't know I've had the 2006 yet), and sometimes McV shiraz can show a bit too much hotness for me as well.

And I'd also consider myself "unschooled" - certainly not an "Advanced Taster" :wink:

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:43 am
by jeremy
Thanks Paul, I appreciate it. And whatever you think of your qualifications, I do find there is much to learn from reading your posts here and elsewhere. Ok, I'm blushing from gushing today :) But I do mean it, and I do call it as I see it, trusting that others will pull me up if I make mistakes.

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:33 pm
by ufo
pstarr wrote:
jeremy wrote:Loving what James is doing with this history of McLaren and it's vines/wines etc. Thankyou. I felt really bad not enjoying a Kay brothers shiraz and saying so on forums recently. I can only call it as I see it though, and re-iterate that while my thoughts could be of use, they do come from someone very young in terms of their wine journey and rather unschooled, unlike Mr Hook, Mr Starr & others.


No need to feel bad - call them as you see them. I personally prefer the 2004 Amery shiraz to the 2005 version (don't know I've had the 2006 yet), and sometimes McV shiraz can show a bit too much hotness for me as well.

And I'd also consider myself "unschooled" - certainly not an "Advanced Taster" :wink:


How about 2002 Amery Shiraz? I have had 99,00,01 and enjoyed them very much but I can't just get the same pleasure from 2002. It was the first release under screw cap. I wonder if it's got anything to do with it. May be they did not make the necessary changes during the production to accomodate the switch to screw caps ?!?! Don't wan't to start another Screwcap vs Cork debate and I am for screw caps, but just can't understand this wine.