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Penfolds Bin 2 Shiraz Mouvedre

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:06 pm
by Noel ward
I've noticed that through the Wine Society they are flogging a Penfolds Bin 2 Shiraz Mouvedre 2006. Does anyone have any tasting notes? Is this a one off or have there been previous Bin 2's?

Re: Penfolds Bin 2 Shiraz Mouvedre

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:52 pm
by griff
Noel ward wrote:I've noticed that through the Wine Society they are flogging a Penfolds Bin 2 Shiraz Mouvedre 2006. Does anyone have any tasting notes? Is this a one off or have there been previous Bin 2's?


Penfolds made some very good shiraz mataro's in the 1960's apparently. Made it intermitently during the following mid-70's onwards until starting it up again in the 2000's

cheers


Carl

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:24 pm
by Wayno
I thought this was a Cellar door wine.

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:50 pm
by Wizz
I thought it was export only when it was made in the 90's?

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:47 pm
by Roddy
Wizz wrote:I thought it was export only when it was made in the 90's?


Same, UK market.

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:58 pm
by n4sir
Roddy wrote:
Wizz wrote:I thought it was export only when it was made in the 90's?


Same, UK market.


Yeah. It was pretty much export market only (ie. UK), although the occasional bit has surfaced at Penfolds CD. With their current export problems I expect a bit more may pop up in future...

Cheers,
Ian

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:44 pm
by Waiters Friend
I know Penfolds have built their name on multi regional blends, but the moment the words 'shiraz' and 'mataro' (mourvedre) are used together, I think of Clare. Does anyone know where the grapes for this wine come from?

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:02 am
by n4sir
Waiters Friend wrote:I know Penfolds have built their name on multi regional blends, but the moment the words 'shiraz' and 'mataro' (mourvedre) are used together, I think of Clare. Does anyone know where the grapes for this wine come from?


According to Penfolds ROP it's multi-regional (SA/Victoria, usually Barossa, Clare, Mclaren Vale & Langhorne Creek - doesn't mention where the Victorian bits are from). First introduced in 1960 to the local market, then discontinued during the white wine boom with the remainder sent to the UK with the last two 1980/81 vintages where it found a niche (and a life) overseas. It was reintroduced in 1988 and sold retail in markets other than Australia, deliberately made as an early-drinking style vinified in stainless steel and aged for a year in 5-6 year old hogsheads and larger vats.

Cheers,
Ian

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:03 am
by griff
n4sir wrote:
Waiters Friend wrote:I know Penfolds have built their name on multi regional blends, but the moment the words 'shiraz' and 'mataro' (mourvedre) are used together, I think of Clare. Does anyone know where the grapes for this wine come from?


According to Penfolds ROP it's multi-regional (SA/Victoria, usually Barossa, Clare, Mclaren Vale & Langhorne Creek - doesn't mention where the Victorian bits are from). First introduced in 1960 to the local market, then discontinued during the white wine boom with the remainder sent to the UK with the last two 1980/81 vintages where it found a niche (and a life) overseas. It was reintroduced in 1988 and sold retail in markets other than Australia, deliberately made as an early-drinking style vinified in stainless steel and aged for a year in 5-6 year old hogsheads and larger vats.

Cheers,
Ian


And that is the professional answer :)

cheers

Carl

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:05 am
by n4sir
griff wrote:And that is the professional answer :)

cheers

Carl


I'm not a pro, I'm an amateur (in the words of Sharon Stone in 'Basic Instinct') - and an enthusiastic one at that! :wink:

Cheers,
Ian

Ps. I haven't corrected the spelling of Mourvedre in the heading yet either :oops:

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:00 am
by griff
n4sir wrote:
griff wrote:And that is the professional answer :)

cheers

Carl


I'm not a pro, I'm an amateur (in the words of Sharon Stone in 'Basic Instinct') - and an enthusiastic one at that! :wink:

Cheers,
Ian

Ps. I haven't corrected the spelling of Mourvedre in the heading yet either :oops:


Of course. I was referring to to answer being professional ;)

cheers

Carl