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Are grapes washed or rinsed

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:12 am
by 08meltdown
Was watching the ABC program on the Draytons last Monday when my better half asked out loud whether the harvested grapes are washed or rinsed before continuing on the winemaking process.

I replied NO as I am sure there is no such step as I recalled in winemaking.

Am I correct?
Is there any possibilities of "natural fertilisers" or pesticides etc residue on grapes and lurking in wines - I am thinking of the Coogee Bay hotel gelato? :?

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:32 am
by roughred
Grapes aren't washed when harvested. Withholding periods are in place across all fields of agriculture to ensure their is no potential exposure to harmful chemicals.

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:44 am
by GraemeG
You don't imagine winemakers look fearfully at the sky all during the runup to harvest, spending their days in trepidation of rainfall, and then proceed to wash the grapes with water (or other chemicals) immediately after picking, surely!
cheers,
Graeme

Re: Are grapes washed or rinsed

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:51 am
by Blue
08meltdown wrote:Was watching the ABC program on the Draytons last Monday when my better half asked out loud whether the harvested grapes are washed or rinsed before continuing on the winemaking process.

I replied NO as I am sure there is no such step as I recalled in winemaking.

Am I correct?
Is there any possibilities of "natural fertilisers" or pesticides etc residue on grapes and lurking in wines - I am thinking of the Coogee Bay hotel gelato? :?


Did vintages at 2 different wineries. I can confirm, spider webs, spiders, insects, and sometimes reptiles are part of the ingredients. :?

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:24 am
by pstarr
Collectively referred to as MOG - matter other than grapes. In one case, this included a bicycle.

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:25 am
by Murray
I heard about a pushbike clogging a crusher in a large volume winery. Required despoking as well as destemming.

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:25 am
by RogerPike
Hand picked - clean as a whistle.

Machine picked - you don't want to know. Larger animals tend to be extracted during the de-stemming process though.

Roger

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:13 pm
by DaveB
Do a search on MRL's on google.....plenty of info there. Also the AWRI has a section on agrochemicals and MRL's

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:33 pm
by TORB
From a health perspective, there is no problem with the lack of washing.

The ferment, and then alcohol kills any nasty germs that could have been on the skins.

Re: Are grapes washed or rinsed

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:38 am
by roughred
Blue wrote:
08meltdown wrote:Was watching the ABC program on the Draytons last Monday when my better half asked out loud whether the harvested grapes are washed or rinsed before continuing on the winemaking process.

I replied NO as I am sure there is no such step as I recalled in winemaking.

Am I correct?
Is there any possibilities of "natural fertilisers" or pesticides etc residue on grapes and lurking in wines - I am thinking of the Coogee Bay hotel gelato? :?


Did vintages at 2 different wineries. I can confirm, spider webs, spiders, insects, and sometimes reptiles are part of the ingredients. :?


Yep...I've risked life and limb on occasion saving dazed and confused bearded dragons.

Re: Are grapes washed or rinsed

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:47 am
by 08meltdown
roughred wrote:
Blue wrote:
08meltdown wrote:Was watching the ABC program on the Draytons last Monday when my better half asked out loud whether the harvested grapes are washed or rinsed before continuing on the winemaking process.

I replied NO as I am sure there is no such step as I recalled in winemaking.

Am I correct?
Is there any possibilities of "natural fertilisers" or pesticides etc residue on grapes and lurking in wines - I am thinking of the Coogee Bay hotel gelato? :?


Did vintages at 2 different wineries. I can confirm, spider webs, spiders, insects, and sometimes reptiles are part of the ingredients. :?


Yep...I've risked life and limb on occasion saving dazed and confused bearded dragons.


Maybe that's why some vintage possesses more complex nose and taste.
Also some of the health and elixir properties of red wine might be due to these "impurities". :lol:
Quite similar to those Asian elixirs containing reptiles in alcohol. Supposedly cure everything. :wink:

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:50 am
by scribbler
I've seen a dead possum in a concrete fermenter....thankfully when empty

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:38 am
by 08meltdown
scribbler wrote:I've seen a dead possum in a concrete fermenter....thankfully when empty


Every drinkers wish. :wink:

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:22 pm
by Partagas
Wow people, I used to actually like the look of thick sediment at the bottom of an aged bottle. Now I will be looking for whiskers and spider legs :shock: :lol: .

Re: Are grapes washed or rinsed

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:18 pm
by Daniel Jess
08meltdown wrote:Did vintages at 2 different wineries. I can confirm, spider webs, spiders, insects, and sometimes reptiles are part of the ingredients. :?


Don't forget feet...

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:19 pm
by Daniel Jess
08meltdown wrote:
scribbler wrote:I've seen a dead possum in a concrete fermenter....thankfully when empty


Every drinkers wish. :wink:


I recommend the possum with a Clare Valley Riesling.. definitely 06.

PAHAHA.

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:46 am
by Daryl Douglas
A bloke I used to live next door to made fruit wines - had a nice little traditional basket press. He bought a heap of lychees a day or two after they'd been sprayed so the end of the withholding period was a week or so away. He reckoned he and his wife spent just about a full day washing those lychees..................

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:08 am
by 08meltdown
Daryl Douglas wrote:A bloke I used to live next door to made fruit wines - had a nice little traditional basket press. He bought a heap of lychees a day or two after they'd been sprayed so the end of the withholding period was a week or so away. He reckoned he and his wife spent just about a full day washing those lychees..................


When is spraying (if any) carried out in vineyard? How long is the withholding period?

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:45 pm
by Red Bigot
Daryl Douglas wrote:A bloke I used to live next door to made fruit wines - had a nice little traditional basket press. He bought a heap of lychees a day or two after they'd been sprayed so the end of the withholding period was a week or so away. He reckoned he and his wife spent just about a full day washing those lychees..................


Umm, why didn't they just peel them? Or are the skins included in making Lychee wine?

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:04 pm
by Daryl Douglas
Red Bigot wrote:
Daryl Douglas wrote:A bloke I used to live next door to made fruit wines - had a nice little traditional basket press. He bought a heap of lychees a day or two after they'd been sprayed so the end of the withholding period was a week or so away. He reckoned he and his wife spent just about a full day washing those lychees..................


Umm, why didn't they just peel them? Or are the skins included in making Lychee wine?


Now you've got me wondering whether I remember correctly Brian. Maybe they didn't wash them, "just peeled them" - they had a helluva lot of lychees. I work in the same building as Nikki(the wife) so next time I see her I'll ask - she'd surely remember all those lychees and the trouble they went to because of the spray. I'll also ask her if she remembers the withholding period for the spray that was used - she's pretty bright so she may well remember that too.

Cheers

daz