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				Concrete Wine Cellar
				Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:28 pm
				by Red Bigot
				Here used to be a WA mob that made circular concrete cellars with a spiral staircase that could just be dropped into a big hole in the ground and people have asked on the forums occasionally about these sort of pre-constructed cellars.
This popped up as a Google Ad on my site, they appear semi-randomly so I thought it might be worthwhile documenting it here.  The company is based in SA, but claim to deliver Australia wide.
http://www.hytekconcreteproducts.com.au ... agodaij0WQ 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:03 pm
				by Paullie
				looks good, Ive scene rectangle ones on ebay as well.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:37 pm
				by Red Bigot
				Paullie wrote:looks good, Ive scene rectangle ones on ebay as well.
The two currently listed on eBay are the Hytek versions as above.
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:29 pm
				by Paullie
				ahh yer. It was still comparably cheaper for me to build my own that to buy a precast.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:49 pm
				by Red Bigot
				Here is another version of a pre-cast underground cellar:
http://www.cellar-creations.com.au/cellar_pits.htm 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:52 pm
				by beef
				
** I emailed Cellar Creations about this product.  They said that the total cost, delivered to, and installed in QLD would be around $50k  
 
 
I'll stick with my $350 wine fridge for now 
 
Stuart
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:13 pm
				by Paullie
				50k is absurd.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:35 pm
				by Red Bigot
				These people should make arrangements to manufacture locally in the bigger cities, I imagine freight on a 40 tonne lump of concrete is pretty savage from Melb to Bris.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:54 pm
				by Paullie
				Yer, transport is probably the killer. Still for 60k, you can make one yourself, and have it any shape and almost any reasonable size you want, and even with an easily accessible staircase.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:34 pm
				by beef
				They said about $5k of the total was for transport.
Stuart
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:14 pm
				by Paullie
				So a bit of concrete and some formwork costs 55k.  

 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:18 am
				by Duncan
				I think it's digging the hole. I had an earthworker here and asked him how much for a 4x4m pit. He refused to give me a price, just said I must be mad.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:51 am
				by Paullie
				pfft, I had my hole dug out by a front end loader and bobcat, cost me 2.5k, that included them returning to backfill, compaction, compaction tests, levelling and carting the remaining earth away.
The hole was 6x6, with a ramp for access, road fill on the ramp for traction and about 3 meters deep.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:02 pm
				by Davo
				Duncan wrote:I think it's digging the hole. I had an earthworker here and asked him how much for a 4x4m pit. He refused to give me a price, just said I must be mad.
Hells bells Dunc. How do you reckon they get swimming pools into the ground?
You need to discuss this wih another earth mover.
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:21 pm
				by Duncan
				I forgot to mention the rock. Lots of rock. I'd need heavy machinery to put retic in 

 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:29 pm
				by Paullie
				So start chipping away at a cellar.  

 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:50 pm
				by Davo
				Duncan wrote:I forgot to mention the rock. Lots of rock. I'd need heavy machinery to put retic in 

 
Strategically located urea with about 10% diesel usually helps  
 
 
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:17 pm
				by Duncan
				Paullie wrote:So start chipping away at a cellar.  

 
I have been. Or did you mean the hole ?
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:46 pm
				by Paullie
				I mean get out a pick axe and start chipping away at the rock and build your own natural cellar.