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2005 Wynns Coonawarra Estate Cabernet Sauvignon: Dark to inky purple. Lifted nose of cedar, blackcurrant and a hint of chalk/blueberry, becoming slightly jammy and minty with breathing; later on it warms up with coca-cola/blueberry, capsicum/coal, cedar and raisin characters. The palate entry is sweet and ripe with slightly jammy blackcurrant/blackberry fruit, then mulberry and a hint of chalk mid-palate, finishing with very fine tannins and some citrus/citronella and mint; with breathing the weight drops, and the finish is warmer, shorter and more minty. This was better than a sample at a hot and humid instore the week before, but I’m still not convinced it’s a keeper.

Cheers,
Ian

Hello n4sir ,

I was in there web site today and they say it has many simalarities to the 90 and the 99 vintage and they think it will keep to 2015 ? which mind you is not as long as usual for this label . 90 is stilldrinking well with a little drying out occuring , still a good drop i may get some just to see

dazza1968 wrote:Hello n4sir ,

I was in there web site today and they say it has many simalarities to the 90 and the 99 vintage and they think it will keep to 2015 ? which mind you is not as long as usual for this label. 90 is stilldrinking well with a little drying out occuring , still a good drop i may get some just to see

Looks like marketing rubbish to me - a Foster's Rep at the instore basically quoted the same thing from the press release, but also admitted he had little to no experience of previous vintages too.

In my opinion the 2005 bares absolutely no resemblence to the 1990, 1991 or 1999 on release - it has a much riper fruit profile to start with, and I'm not just referring to the 14.5% alcohol level either.

Cheers,
Ian

Agreed on the riper fruit call but - with limited experience in guessing a wine's future - i'd still say it'll easily do 10years+. I also think with a decant for an hour or two the wine is very enjoyable now.

Campbell gave a window of 2013-2022 & Jeremy Oliver his usual whacky drinking window (2017-2025+).

n4sir wrote:

dazza1968 wrote:Hello n4sir ,

I was in there web site today and they say it has many simalarities to the 90 and the 99 vintage and they think it will keep to 2015 ? which mind you is not as long as usual for this label. 90 is stilldrinking well with a little drying out occuring , still a good drop i may get some just to see

Looks like marketing rubbish to me - a Foster's Rep at the instore basically quoted the same thing from the press release, but also admitted he had little to no experience of previous vintages too.

In my opinion the 2005 bares absolutely no resemblence to the 1990, 1991 or 1999 on release - it has a much riper fruit profile to start with, and I'm not just referring to the 14.5% alcohol level either.

Cheers,
Ian

Yes youcould welland truly be right , for along time there they had michael and riddoch siting in there shed and when ever they had a tasting it was never presented then they dumped the price of it as an answer to moving it on with out realising no one really had tried it !!!!!!! Very disappointed , emailed them and said world class wine needs world class promotion , email came back smoothing it all over I buy very little of their wine now even though i love them generally

tos wrote:Campbell gave a window of 2013-2022 & Jeremy Oliver his usual whacky drinking window (2017-2025+).

With all due respect to these guys, I really can't see this sort of cellaring potential.

In a vertical last night with the 65, 67, 70, 76, 86, 88, 90, 91, 93, 95, 96, 01, & 03 it was nothing short of horrible and had absolutely no resemblence to the best vintages, reeking of alcohol and dead fruit, very raisined and surprisingly short.

Cheers,
Ian

n4sir wrote:

tos wrote:Campbell gave a window of 2013-2022 & Jeremy Oliver his usual whacky drinking window (2017-2025+).

With all due respect to these guys, I really can't see this sort of cellaring potential.

In a vertical last night with the 65, 67, 70, 76, 86, 88, 90, 91, 93, 95, 96, 01, & 03 it was nothing short of horrible and had absolutely no resemblence to the best vintages, reeking of alcohol and dead fruit, very raisined and surprisingly short.

Cheers,
Ian

Hello ian which vintages did you find really good in your opinion? and have you heard about the 06 vintage black label ? they say its pretty good

Interesting comments.....I assume this is the "black label" Wynns?

Recently tried 2005 & 2006 & to my surprise, they didn't meet my expectations!

Put it down to an "OFF NIGHT" !

I suppose you build up your expectations via reviews etc BUT sometimes are horribly disappointed.

M&B

Ian,
Sue and I shared a bottle of this afternooon / evening.

Upon opening, immediately recognisable as a recent Coonawarra Cab, with a nose of cassis, green capsicum, some tobacco and some black fruit. The nose broadened considerably over a few hours.
The palate very much followed the nose, and improved immensely over 2 hours. Lovely fruit (black berry fruit, some plums) and savoury creamy oak (I believe GW called it "custard").
Medium to long finish, the tannins have greatly softened, and there is plenty of pepper. Thick, textured, and some intriguing complexity. I like it very much.

I agree with you, this wine likely will not last beyond many years, and probably should not be cellared too long. I do however find it very agreeable drinking now, and did not find any raisiny fruit in my bottle, and no discernible faults either.

My 2cents...

I think it will walk 15 years.
GW

Gary W wrote:I think it will walk 15 years.
GW

Going on what we tasted yesterday, I'll agree to disagree. That bottle was very forward, and drinking very well. I think 5-10 will be more than enough.

Not sure I have the prowess to declare 5-10 or 15 years... but I tried this tonight and quite liked it, characters of mint and berries sprung to mind and really quite different to the 04 which I think is a more elegant, sculpted wine. This seemed a good free-for-all of a wine which I've no doubt will improve but it is really quite drinkable now.

Only bought a couple of bottles of 05 - maybe I should try one. I like the 03, drank more than a case (yeh, yeh, I know, too early) because it was so nice young.

Cheers

daz

Daryl Douglas wrote:Only bought a couple of bottles of 05 - maybe I should try one. I like the 03, drank more than a case (yeh, yeh, I know, too early) because it was so nice young.

Cheers

daz

Well, having recently drunk an 03, I don't think you're too far off beam drinking them early.

Just revisiting the 05 BL, the day after. It seems to be exhibiting more varietal and regional character than it did on opening, some really obvious mint and a bit of eucalypt and the oak is more obvious. It's curvaceous, just short of cuddly.