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All,

I've just been offered the following for purchase:-

Clonakilla Shiraz Viognier 2005
Tim Adams Aberfeldy 2004
Primo Joseph Moda 2004

Has anybody tried these and can offer their opinions.

I must say I'm tempted to grab some while I can as being as I'm in the UK stocks are limited, here today, gone tomorrow!

Thanks in advance.

Cheers

Ollie

Ollie
All are highly regarded wines and AFAIK the vintages are good in each region.

The only one of those I have personal experience of (and not in that vintage) is the Primo. I like it, as although at the big end of town it holds it well.

If you can buy it in single bottles, then grab one and open young (it does drink well young).

If the price is decent (£20 or less for the Aberfeldy and Primo Moda, not sure on the market rate for the Clonakilla) then I'd be tempted by a bottle of each, just to see what they're like.

regards

Ian

Ollie I can speak directly fo the CLonakila, Northern RHone style and very very good, buy it!

I havent bought the Primo Moda for a while, but I can tell you in past vintages it has been a good quality Amarone style, and 2005 was very strong in McLaren Vale.

The Aberfeldy has more oak than I like, but others on this forum have rated it highly,

chers

Andrew

Ollie, the 2005 Clonakilla Shiraz Viognier is a classic and the 2004 Aberfeldy is very very good, different styles but must buys IMO.

Let us know what you think of them.

I have both 6 of each of the 2005 Clonakilla SV and the Tim Adams Aberfeldy in my cellar. They are each at the top end of their regional expression of Shiraz IMO.

Grab them.
Had a Clonakilla lat night. Excellent wine. Just got better and better as it continued to open. Amazingly distinct apricot tart smell. Glad I have another 5.
Check out torbwine for reviews of Aberfeldy. Very highly rated.
Out of interest, what do they sell for in UK?

I like both the Aberfeldy and the Primo; both are very good wines and consistent from year to year, the Aberfeldy especially so.

Clonakilla for me hands down. The others are good, the Clonakilla is great.

I guess it all depends on price. Some Aussie stuff can get quite exie OS.

Have fun which ever way you go.



Billy B

J wrote:Grab them.
Had a Clonakilla lat night. Excellent wine. Just got better and better as it continued to open. Amazingly distinct apricot tart smell. Glad I have another 5.
Check out torbwine for reviews of Aberfeldy. Very highly rated.
Out of interest, what do they sell for in UK?

I can get them for:

Clonakilla - 63 Aus Dollars - Available now
Joseph Moda - 40 Aus Dollars - Shipment due in June
Aberfeldy - Damn can't find my pricing but from memory it's about 40 - 50 Aus dollars - Shipment due May

How does this pricing stack up compared to Australia??

Cheers

Ollie

PS - Thanks for all the opinions, I think I'm pretty much sold!

Ollie wrote:

J wrote:Grab them.
Had a Clonakilla lat night. Excellent wine. Just got better and better as it continued to open. Amazingly distinct apricot tart smell. Glad I have another 5.
Check out torbwine for reviews of Aberfeldy. Very highly rated.
Out of interest, what do they sell for in UK?

I can get them for:

Clonakilla - 63 Aus Dollars - Available now
Joseph Moda - 40 Aus Dollars - Shipment due in June
Aberfeldy - Damn can't find my pricing but from memory it's about 40 - 50 Aus dollars - Shipment due May

How does this pricing stack up compared to Australia??

Cheers

Ollie

PS - Thanks for all the opinions, I think I'm pretty much sold!

Al these are about 10% cheaper than best price available here by the looks. Your freight costs are less than our local taxes by the looks. Go for it!

I've had that particular vintage of Aberfeldy and thought it was excellent.

Clonakilla is the new Grange: but sexy, slinky and knowing. It is a five star buy. The best modern shiraz style in Australia. A veritable new classic. Armani in a glass. No downside.

Maybe I'm playing it down. Shhh

Tried all 3 at cellar door over the past month and they are all excellent.

J wrote:Grab them.
Had a Clonakilla lat night. Excellent wine. Just got better and better as it continued to open. Amazingly distinct apricot tart smell. Glad I have another 5.
Check out torbwine for reviews of Aberfeldy. Very highly rated.
Out of interest, what do they sell for in UK?

Well there you go. I hate over viogniered shiraz and in particular hate the apricot flavours. I liked the Clonakilla because I did not get any of those flavours ay all and the only hint of viognier was the added oiliness/viscosity in the mouth.

Still feel it is overpriced for what you get but.

Ollie wrote:All,

I've just been offered the following for purchase:-

Clonakilla Shiraz Viognier 2005
Tim Adams Aberfeldy 2004
Primo Joseph Moda 2004

Has anybody tried these and can offer their opinions.

I must say I'm tempted to grab some while I can as being as I'm in the UK stocks are limited, here today, gone tomorrow!

Thanks in advance.

Cheers

Ollie

TNs on Aberfeldy:
Centenary release

WFM
Tim Adams Clare Valley Aberfeldy Shiraz 2004
($55) screwcap: It's an excellent vintage from a
vineyard that, in 2004, turned 100 - it was planted
way back in 1904, before Gallipoli, just after
Federation, yahda yahda yahda. These vineyards are
living, breathing, drinking history and Australia is
extremely blessed to have them. The wine itself is
right in the Aberfeldy groove. Loaded with soft,
mushy, slippery (French-coopered), malty American
oak, packed with mint-dipped, plum-drenched fruit,
aided by a leathery drinkability and tight and highly
focussed on the finish - if perhaps a little too acidic. I
personally think that this wine would look even
better if the oak wasn't so aggressive, but in this
vintage I do agree that the wine is composed,
opulent, stylish and essentially balanced. 15%
alcohol. Drink: 2006-2022. 93 points.

Deeply ripened and luscious, this spicy and powerfully concentrated shiraz reveals a heady perfume of jujube-like blackberries, dark plums and cassis backed by clove, cinnamon, white pepper and assertive dark chocolate/vanilla oak. Its luscious palate of searingly intense dark berry fruit and polished, creamy vanilla oak is framed by firm but smooth tannins, finishing long and briary, with suggestions of mint and mineral. (Clare Valley, $46 retail, approx., 18.8/95, drink 2016-2024) Jeremy Oliver

Top 100 New Releases: Minty/coconut oak is evident in this shiraz, with deep plummy fruit of ideal ripeness. The texture is fleshy, the palate well balanced and easy to enjoy, even at this tender age. Vibrant, chocolatey and deep. It should also age well. Huon Hooke; Australian Gourmet Traveller Wine

Tim Adams 2004 The Aberfeldy Shiraz is one of the great Clare shiraz vineyards. Tim Adams' wine from this vineyard is sheer wine-drinking indulgence, particularly if you like your reds on the big side. It's a mouthful of blackberries and plums with a background of fine vanillin oak and gentle tannins. Fergus McGhie; The Canberra Times

Aberfeldy is the standard-bearer shiraz of Tim Adams's Clare Valley winemaking operation ... It is a powerful wine with 14.9 per cent alcohol but shows considerable finesse. It has aromas of glace cherries, coffee beans and thyme and launches onto the front palate with concentrated blackcurrant flavour. Dark chocolate, cinnamon and plum fruit characters meld with subtle coconutty oak on the middle palate and flinty tannins hold sway at the finish. It would be good with chicken marengo, veal saltimbocca or slow-braised beef cheeks in red wine sauce with potato dumplings and mushrooms. Ageing: 15 years. Rating: * * * * * John Lewis; The Herald

... a classic Clare Valley shiraz ... right up there with the finest reds I've unscrewed this year. John Fordham; The Sunday Telegraph

I have a vertical of Clonakilla SV from 1997....can't bring myself to open any.....not sure what I am saving it for???

One day, maybe tomorrow!