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some recent additions to my cellar

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:05 pm
by New2Winecollecting
As by my nickname i am only new to collecting wine i thought i would sharemy recent auction purchase list. I tried to get a broad mix of different styles and price points. My favourites are shiraz but am trying different varietys after a recent pleasurable experience with a pinot grigio by illze wines. So what do you think of my purchases any standouts?

SYDNEY AUCTION - Closed October 23, 6pm
Lot No Wine Quantity Unit Price Total
236 CORIOLE Lloyd Reserve Shiraz, McLaren Vale 1998 6 Bottles $57.00 $342.00
397 ELDERTON Command Shiraz, Barossa Valley 1998 6 Bottles $76.00 $456.00
398 ELDERTON Command Shiraz, Barossa Valley 1998 6 Bottles $75.00 $450.00
750 JASPER HILL Georgia's Paddock Shiraz, Heathcote 2002 12 Bottles $56.00 $672.00
751 JASPER HILL Georgia's Paddock Shiraz, Heathcote 2002 12 Bottles $61.00 $732.00
1077 MOUNT MARY Quintet Cabernets, Yarra Valley 1998 1 Bottle $131.00 $131.00
1079 MOUNT MARY Quintet Cabernets, Yarra Valley 2000 1 Bottle $138.00 $138.00


* Denotes lots where the GST component can be claimed by GST registered buyers.

Sale Price (incl. GST) AUD$2921.00
Includes AUD$0 of GST
Buyer's Premium (incl. GST) AUD$438.15
SALE TOTAL AUD$3359.15
Includes AUD$39.83 of GST

Shipping (if required, incl. GST) AUD$66.00
Insurance (if required, incl. GST) AUD$50.39

TOTAL (incl. Shipping and Insurance) AUD$3475.54
Includes AUD$50.41 of GST

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:42 pm
by Mark S
Hi there & welcome to the forum - pretty impressive list of langtons purchases there! I've certainly got to hand it to you for going in at the deep end at full bore - when I started, I'd agonize over which bottle, which vintage, whether 4 or 6 might be too many, am I paying too much, etc etc. But here you are, having spent well over 3K to get 42 bottles of shiraz and 2 bottles of cabernet.

Jasper Georgia's is one of my all time favourites - in a recent vertical tasting, my impressions of the 2002:

"opaque, almost black in colour; subtle nose, with a bit of earthiness and complexity already present; chalky tannins, somewhat backward, almost austere on the palate, maybe in its dumb phase - certainly both the 2004 and 2000 tasted at the same time appeared far more generous than this vintage"

From experience, in another few years the 2002 is likely to blossom and show far more than it did on this occasion. I believe it has great promise.
Sure hope you like it, having just bought two dozen - what will you do if it's not to your taste?

You posted that you "tried to get a broad mix of different styles and price points" - perhaps not so evident on this occasion, why not lash out at the next auction opportunity, get a bottle or two of Rutherglen durif, Hunter semillon, Mornington pinot, or try Symphonia wines for Saperavi, Tannat, Arneis or Petit Manseng, really live on the wild side :wink:

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:55 am
by New2Winecollecting
thanks heaps mark appreciate the reply. Well i did try to get a few different styles of shiraz I will take be purchasing some of the varietys you mentioned with my next purchase.

I am attending a few tasting dinners in sydney in the coming months were i will be looking out for a few pinot varietys and also some semillion for my cellar. I have storage for 160 bottles at this stage so am looking to try and fill it by christmas to show off to all whom come to my place for christmas. Nothing better than a well stocked full cellar .

Through most of the shiraz i purchased some are tough and some are yet to realise there full potential and so on. I have tasted several of the jasper hill georgia creek shiraz's as well and agree with you i think the 2002 will need to have at least another three years in my cellar to become on par with the 2000 I am putting myself on the line with this one but when i tasted it (2002) vintage about three weeks ago i did like what i tasted it suits my tastes and will be cellaring this to drink the first dozen and sell the second. Hopefully the prices i paid are relative to the value of these wines. From all the research i have conducted it does seem that way.

I recieved a call by the sales for glaezter wines regarding Amon Ra and Gadolphin quite high price wine . But have not had a chance to taste it yet so am reluctant to purchase. I have read only good things about these wines. any thoughts? he said it is only on allocation but they had a few left for mailing list customers.

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:43 am
by Ratcatcher
Why limit yourself to auctions?

Gavin and other on-line retailers have some great new releases at friendly prices. Plus you are certain of their condition and where they come from and how they have been stored.

Nothings more exciting than to buy a few wines on release and like them and find out 6 months later that Winefront, Halliday, Oliver et al agree with you in no uncertain terms.

With a deep pocket like that I hope you stay away from any auction items I want, I wouldn't have a hope.

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:55 am
by Glen
Hi

I would suggest taking a look in the latest WINE magazine, as Campbell Mattinson provides some valuable insight for beginners when starting to collect wine.

Also try Wickmans auction site, there are usually some good bargains to be had there as it isn't as widely known in the circles.

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:59 am
by Ratcatcher
Geez Glen - Clear Off. :D

I didn't want him discovering Wickmans. Now he'll outbid me on all the wines I want.

I can't match someone who can spend 3G in one go.

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:38 pm
by michaelw
Ratcatcher wrote:I can't match someone who can spend 3G in one go.


Hear, hear. Bugger off :P :wink:

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 11:29 pm
by Mark S
New2.... I think you've done very well with your choices, it was the numbers that surprised me....

Re the Amon Ra and Godolphin, truly superb wines, in my view some of the best Australia produces, particularly in being deliciously approachable at a young age. You should get some.

Click on the "Australian Wine Centre" icon top left of this forum page - it'll take you to Gavin's (this forum's owner) shop, search for Glaetzer. Make sure the phone offer you received isn't exorbitantly priced comparatively.

All the best in your future wine collecting :)