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Can anyone explain why some retailers have yet to hear from Fosters on the latest Mt Ida release - but are quoting $50 when is does arrive - and Dan's are saying they have it for $39??

How does this all work?

Who knows? Campbell Mattinson said it would be $38 (presumably this is what Seppelts told him), but the Seppelts Drives Club is asking for $44 per bottle (and I was told when I rang on Friday that they were still waiting for stocks at the winery).

Go figure

It seems Seppelt supporters (retail) are being snubbed in favour of Dan's and the like - so those who helped to rebuild the non existent Seppelt brands over the last five years are now being shafted!!

Arthur O'Connor is gone, integrity is gone and I fear next quality will be gone in the massive system that is Fosters.....give it 2-3 years.

To quote an Arthurism, I think you are smoking crack and I am quite sure that the crew left at Seppelts will continue to produce wines of exceptionaly high quality, as they have with the 2004 St Peters, benno, 05 Jaluka and drumborg and 06 drumborg just to mention a few.

In terms of the Mt Ida release, I am reliably informed that no one has 2004 Mt Ida and rumour has it that the few bottles that have been sold through Dans are tasting stocks that were not supposed to be sold.

needless to say I think that you can rest assureed in the knowledge that Seppelt wines are in good hands and will continue to improve

flashheart wrote:To quote an Arthurism, I think you are smoking crack and I am quite sure that the crew left at Seppelts will continue to produce wines of exceptionaly high quality, as they have with the 2004 St Peters, benno, 05 Jaluka and drumborg and 06 drumborg just to mention a few.

In terms of the Mt Ida release, I am reliably informed that no one has 2004 Mt Ida and rumour has it that the few bottles that have been sold through Dans are tasting stocks that were not supposed to be sold.

needless to say I think that you can rest assureed in the knowledge that Seppelt wines are in good hands and will continue to improve

Cannot comment about the making of these wines into the future, but I can confirm that Fosters are very much in danger of alienating their retail customers.

No details, but they have become very hard to deal with, with unreliable information, differing stories, promises not kept and more. This is affecting all their labels, Seppelt not the least!!

Just a retailer's 2 cents worth.

flashheart wrote:To quote an Arthurism, I think you are smoking crack and I am quite sure that the crew left at Seppelts will continue to produce wines of exceptionaly high quality, as they have with the 2004 St Peters, benno, 05 Jaluka and drumborg and 06 drumborg just to mention a few.

In terms of the Mt Ida release, I am reliably informed that no one has 2004 Mt Ida and rumour has it that the few bottles that have been sold through Dans are tasting stocks that were not supposed to be sold.

needless to say I think that you can rest assureed in the knowledge that Seppelt wines are in good hands and will continue to improve

Can you provide some evidence to support your argument - any evidence? Distribution and brand management is initially at risk here. The Mamre Cab debacle last year is another Fosters special...when did you start working at Seppelt? Why do people on forums always descend into personal abuse and then back the comments up with pure opinion?

Flashheart
It does seem a surprising 1st post, right in at the deep end! - to which I can only assume you are:

a) a forum regular seeking anonymity for comments (but to be fair, forum regulars treat each other with respect, so no need for anonymity)

or

b) An employee of Fosters, or other such interest (as such it would be fair to acknowledge your interest).

This doesn't mean you're not entitled to your opinion - far from it, but it would be appreciated if you were to add some clarification if appropriate.

regards

Ian

Seems its not only DM that has this wine.
I picked some up from 1st Choice this week for $37. They also matched DM for the St Peters 04 at $48.

flashheart wrote:In terms of the Mt Ida release, I am reliably informed that no one has 2004 Mt Ida and rumour has it that the few bottles that have been sold through Dans are tasting stocks that were not supposed to be sold.

Not so sure about that. I know of at least 3 others who have picked up 6 packs.

cheers,

David M.

Ian S wrote:b) An employee of Fosters

Spot on Ian. Registered on that 'other' forum with his work email address

I support Gavin 100% with his comments

Bert Werden wrote:

Ian S wrote:b) An employee of Fosters

Spot on Ian. Registered on that 'other' forum with his work email address

I support Gavin 100% with his comments

Other forum

the Winestar forum

Geez Bert, we each know each other exists, no drama mate.

Seppelt/Fosters, hopeless, they are either incompetent or lying to me, or both?

Email from a Brisbane retailer received an hour ago:

Subject: 04 Seppelts Mt Ida instore tasting all day today

STOCK JUST ARRIVED HALF AN HOUR AGO AND WILL NOT LAST..

Be the first to taste this extremely limited and very impressive Heathcote Shiraz.

Bottles open all day today.

$39.99, or $239.94 per six pack.

Have a great weekend.

What is happening here???

Adair wrote:Email from a Brisbane retailer received an hour ago:

Subject: 04 Seppelts Mt Ida instore tasting all day today

STOCK JUST ARRIVED HALF AN HOUR AGO AND WILL NOT LAST..

Be the first to taste this extremely limited and very impressive Heathcote Shiraz.

Bottles open all day today.

$39.99, or $239.94 per six pack.

Have a great weekend.

What is happening here???

Why should we know

FOSTER'S DON'T

Bert Werden wrote:

Ian S wrote:b) An employee of Fosters

Spot on Ian. Registered on that 'other' forum with his work email address

I support Gavin 100% with his comments

Obviously Fosters treat their employees the same as they do the independent retailers - like mushrooms!

Looks like the new marketing / distribution arrangements need a small amount of tweaking...

Or maybe they work on the outdated principle that "any publicity is good publicity"?

Gavin Trott wrote:

Bert Werden wrote:

Ian S wrote:b) An employee of Fosters

Spot on Ian. Registered on that 'other' forum with his work email address

I support Gavin 100% with his comments

Other forum

the Winestar forum

Geez Bert, we each know each other exists, no drama mate.

Maybe you should bring up the Melbourne offline subject on Bert's forum Gavin? You may get a lot more interest.

Cheers,
Ian

n4sir wrote:Maybe you should bring up the Melbourne offline subject on Bert's forum Gavin? You may get a lot more interest.

Cheers,
Ian

Ian, I don't think the issue is crossforumisation (I swear thats a word!) I think the fact that Gavin is staying up in the sticks it makes it very hard to co-ordinate for me anyway, but I'd suggest a few others.

Bert Werden wrote:

n4sir wrote:Maybe you should bring up the Melbourne offline subject on Bert's forum Gavin? You may get a lot more interest.

Cheers,
Ian

Ian, I don't think the issue is crossforumisation (I swear thats a word!) I think the fact that Gavin is staying up in the sticks it makes it very hard to co-ordinate for me anyway, but I'd suggest a few others.

In the sticks literally, right in the Sherbrook forest in fact.

Lovely spot, just not close to the CBD.

Shame bert, I would have loved to let you buy me a dinner!

Adair wrote:Email from a Brisbane retailer received an hour ago:

Subject: 04 Seppelts Mt Ida instore tasting all day today

STOCK JUST ARRIVED HALF AN HOUR AGO AND WILL NOT LAST..

Be the first to taste this extremely limited and very impressive Heathcote Shiraz.

Bottles open all day today.

$39.99, or $239.94 per six pack.

Have a great weekend.

What is happening here???

Adair, that's an easy one.

Public pressure. Indeed the wine is now available to all and sundry. Too little too late for mine. Made good independents and ex-Seppelt supporters look silly whilst they bowed to the people that bastardised their brand. Weird way of doing business. Maybe the crack pipe really is doing the rounds.

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needless to say I think that you can rest assureed in the knowledge that Seppelt wines are in good hands and will continue to improve


Well flashheart, Sepps will be in good hands once they get around to selling it, say in two years

The Age (Epicure) on Tuesday highlighted that large multi-nationals own a plethora of brands which dominate wine sales in Australia. They include:

Fosters own:
Andrew Garret
Annies Lane
Baileys of Glenrowan
Black Opal
Blues Point
Cartwheel
Coldstream Hills
Devils Lair
Edwards & Chaffey
Glass Mountain
Greg Norman Estates
Half Mile Creek
Ingolby
Jamiesons Run
Kaiser Stuhl
Kilawarra
Leo Buring
Lindemans
Maglieri
Matthew Lang
Metala
Mildara
Michinbury
Mount Ida
Penfolds
Pepperjack
Queen Adelaide
Robertsons Well
Rosemount
Rouge Homme
Saltram
Seaview
Seppelt
Shadowood
St Hubert
T’Gallant
The Little Penguin
The Rothbury Estate
Tollana
Wolf Blass
Wynns
Yarra Ridge
Yellow Glen

Hardy's own:Hardys
Banrock Station
Houghton
Stonehaven
Leasingham
Yarra Burn
Tintara
Nobilo
Omni
Barossa Valley Estate
Starvedog Lane
Chateau Reynella
Kamberra
Moondah Brook
Reynell
Bay of Fires
Brookland Valley
Savy
Berri
Four Emus
Stanley
Kellys Revenge
Knife and Fork
Emu Wine


Orlando Wyndham owns:

Jacob's Creek
Wyndham Estate
Poet's Corner
Richmond Grove.
Carrington
Coolabah
Maison
Steingarten
Jacaranda Ridge
Morris Wines
Gramps
Montrose
Craigmoor
Wickham Hill