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Pennie's 707 1998?

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:13 pm
by Daryl Douglas
Has anyone tried this recently. I'm thinking of taking a bottle to share with an old friend this weekend.

Any TNs much appreciated......

Thanks

daz

Re: Pennie's 707 1998?

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:21 pm
by Daryl Douglas
Daryl Douglas wrote:Has anyone tried this recently. I'm thinking of taking a bottle to share with an old friend this weekend.

Any TNs much appreciated......

Thanks

daz


Edit: Also trying to decide between a bottle of Lagavulin 16yo (not tried) or Dimple 15yo (I like it).

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:22 pm
by Daryl Douglas
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Re: Pennie's 707 1998?

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:36 pm
by Muscat Mike
Daryl Douglas wrote:
Edit: Also trying to decide between a bottle of Lagavulin 16yo (not tried) or Dimple 15yo (I like it).


Entirely different scotches. If not sure take the Dimple. It would suit more tastes than the Lagavulin.
Mike.

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:39 pm
by n4sir
I haven't tried it yet - too afraid to from what I've heard. :shock:

I've consistently heard it's ridiculously oaky, and the latest was that it's not getting better, actually the opposite.

Whatever you eat with it, it had better go with loads of fresh timber and vanilla. Good luck.

Cheers,
Ian

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:50 pm
by Daryl Douglas
n4sir wrote:I haven't tried it yet - too afraid to from what I've heard. :shock:

I've consistently heard it's ridiculously oaky, and the latest was that it's not getting better, actually the opposite.

Whatever you eat with it, it had better go with loads of fresh timber and vanilla. Good luck.

Cheers,
Ian


Thanks Ian. Seem to remember seeing some less than compimentary comments on it, even though even Ric gave it a very positive review (apart from vfm) in which he thought it'd be ready this year. JO and JH both gave it top marks, 97/100 and 19.3/20 I think, on release. I'm reasonably tolerant of oak but like many others, becoming less so if it's not integrated.

A Tahbilk 1860s 1996 may be an alternative but it should only just be starting to hit it's straps. Possibly more ready would be a Georgia's 1999.

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:44 am
by TORB
Hi Daz,

Re the Lagavulin, I don't like it; it tasted to medicinal for my taste, its juts a personal thing.

Re the 707, it will only start to become approachable now, it would be better left for another few years if possible.

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:48 am
by Wizz
Lagavulin tastes like seaweed to me. You have to be in the mood for it. If in doubt take the Dimple.

Re: Pennie's 707 1998?

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:55 am
by Red Bigot
Daryl Douglas wrote:Edit: Also trying to decide between a bottle of Lagavulin 16yo (not tried) or Dimple 15yo (I like it).


Ah, peaty, smokey, hint of the seaside iodine in the air. Love those Islay malts, Lagavulin is one of my favourites. If you want a slightly more restrained Islay, try the Ardbeg 10yo, might be hard to find though, or Bowmore 12yo.

Re: Pennie's 707 1998?

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:45 am
by paul
Daryl Douglas wrote:
Daryl Douglas wrote:Has anyone tried this recently. I'm thinking of taking a bottle to share with an old friend this weekend.

Any TNs much appreciated......

Thanks

daz


Edit: Also trying to decide between a bottle of Lagavulin 16yo (not tried) or Dimple 15yo (I like it).


Lagavulin = smoke in a bottle.

I personally love it. I know others that don't.

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:11 pm
by bacchaebabe
We had a couple of my bottles of the 96 707 at an offline earlier this year. They had a long decant but are still massive. I won't be trying again for at least another five years. I dont think the 98 is quite as good, although I haven't tried it but if you do go there, I would suggest a very long decant.

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:41 pm
by Gary W
Yes. I had a 98 707 last year. It is huge. Big fruit. Big oak. The 98 is more opulent than the 96. Just make sure you decant it for at least a few hours and eat red meat with it. It is probably a wine built for drinking 2018+. I have two in the cellar myself (gifts)...but it's only wine and the ceremony and sense of occasion is often just as important.
GW

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:58 pm
by invertiga
i saw a 98 707 about a week ago, kept in very good / perfect condition. The wine as others have stated is huge, massive dry oak nose backed by alot of rich dark berry., on palate it followed through with these characteristics. It's going to last a long time, no doubt it was a great wine to taste but its got time and improvement to be had, i'd drink a different vintage for the mean-time and save this one for the future.

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:25 pm
by Daryl Douglas
Thanks all

I think you've convinced me to hold the 707, maybe take the 2nd last Georgia's 00 or perhaps the 2nd last Stonewell 98 and something else like a Leasingham Bin 61 02. We enjoyed my one bottle of Cullen CM 00 at Christmas so am considering a 99 too.

And the Dimple. Probably the closest I've tried to the Lagavulin is Oban which I liked but wasn't greatly impressed.

Thanks for all of the sage advice.

Cheers

daz