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'01 Grosset Pinot ?
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 4:46 pm
by Curt ( NZ )
Hi !
Has anyone tried the '01
Grosset Pinot - would it make a good comparison
with NZ pinots in a vertical tasting. Any thoughts on VFM ?
Thanks,
Curt.
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 9:00 pm
by Ben
I have tried one Grosset Pinot and it was the 01. I have no written tasting notes but remember it was very dissapointing. From what I had read I didn't not expect it to be a fruit forward wine but I found it almost lacking any fruit character and hence the wine felt thin in the mouth and out of balance. But it could have been a dud bottle so it would be interesting to find out what other peoples impressions were. He seems to get good reviews for his Pinot
Base on my experince it is not good value for money at around $60 and would look ordinary up against good NZ pinot.
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 8:36 am
by michel
I tried the 2001 at release and it was closed and lacking varietal character. A more recent taste showed it to be opening up with characters similar to the very good (90/100) 2000. But at $50 aus mail order I would lean towards a Walnut , Felton or Ata Rangi any day.
A more interesting comparison would be Curlewis (sic), Paringa (the more pricey label) , Dromana Reserve.
regards
michel
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 8:59 am
by Anthony
Paringa (the more pricey label)
Michel, what is your view on Paringa Pinot? I have always found it a little to full on in warm years.
cheers
anthony
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 9:25 am
by michel
Anthony
I am having some sort of a dissapointing watershed with Australian Pinots.
I have two 2000 Paringa left and at 45 dollars Aus I can buy a two bottles of a decent dry red like Zema 2000 cabernet which is more true to its varietal character with out pushing or working everything to an nth degree. I am not sure if it is me but the oak in the Paringa and esp the Port Phillips is just going too far.
I now have more Kiwi pinot than Aussie pinot in the cellar but in general I am drinking what I have and not buying any more (famous last words) due to QPR consideration and cellaring potential- most new world pinots struggle to get better beyond 2 or 3 years.
Maybe the pinots are changing or maybe it is my palate is evolving
michel
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 9:29 am
by Anthony
Great points Michel, tend to agree with you on most points.
anthony
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 10:33 am
by Anthony
Sorry, just to add Michel.
I think New Zeland have pushed themselves to maker better Pinot. If you look at australian Pinot and discount the great 2000 vintage from Tassie and Victoria, I don't think there has been a lot of wines that have made me jump up and down.
Bass Phillip, Bannockburn, Bindi and Giaconda are great but when you think about how much Pinot Australia makes, there is a hell of a lot of sub-standard Pinot being released at premium prices.
cheers
anthony