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What is it?

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:15 pm
by tcd
I have come across abottle of French wine and have no idea what it is.

The harvest (recolte) is 1969
The, I think, trade mark (marque deposee) is in large font: RICHARDIERE
Another word in large font is MACON, presumably from the Macon region.

Other words near the bottom of label are:
PASQUIER-DESVIGNES
and I asume the address:
AU MARQUISAT DEPUIS 1420 _ NEGOCIANTS A SAINT- LAGER (rh) FRANCE

can anyone help me - what is it? the vineyard? valuable? etc, etc

Thanks

Re: What is it?

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:34 pm
by Chow Chow
tcd wrote: valuable? etc, etc

Thanks


A 36 yrs O Village wine fr Macon is probrably dead by now.

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:56 pm
by Chow Chow
On second thought, if the condition is good(levels) u can dispose it in the auction. Some 36 yr O buggers may want it for their birthyear wine and the novelty of being foreign.

Cheers,
MC

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:41 pm
by tcd
I came to upon this bottle while sifting through a deceased estate. Unfortunately, after many days of research on the web I have been unable to find the answers I seek.
I don’t know why my late father kept this and a couple of other “dead” & “novelty” wines from the same period and country. Perhaps he thought they just tasted nice and brought some home. Who knows, I can’t ask him.
So, in desperation, I thought I would ask the people who might know about this wine bottle. The Wine Enthusiast.
So I registered, logged on and asked away, only to get a smart-alec reply. This reply and replier can only enhance the opinion of some sections of the public as to the type of person who relishes in this type of forum.

Please one & all, ignore my question and ignorance. I shall head off to the local pub and seek the answers from scanky, old, buggers at the bar.

Kind Regards
tcd

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:16 pm
by Paradox
Actually that was quite a helpful reply, but you haven't realised that. You also haven't stated if the wine is red or white.

Macon is the lowest designation for that appellation in burgundy, and the ordinary wines of Macon are generally for early drinking - 2-5 years. The reds are light, and more like beaujolais than classical pinot noir, while the whites are (usually) unwooded chardonnay.

Wines made by a negociant in 1969 at about the lowest level of burgundy that exists, were likely to be average to poor in 1970/71 and will have got worse since then.

So the answer is that it's probably dead and not drinkable, and not worth much either but may be valuable to someone who wants a novelty wine from 1969. As Chowchow said....

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:23 pm
by Adam
Agree, PASQUIER-DESVIGNES are the negotiants, they also produce a bunch of stuff from Beaujolais and Coute du Nuits.

Macon is a region in Beaujolais, which are VERY rarely long term wines...made predominantly from Gamay grape.

I actually quite like 69 as a vintage, but given storage, condition, village status, producer etc, bad label condition...unfortunately everything points towards this wine being no good.

I would stand it upright for 2 days...very carefully pull the cork... dont disturb it and gently pour it into some decent sized glasses. You may just get a great surprise!! But treat it very gently, no sudden movements that stir up the sediment etc

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:28 pm
by Adam
tcd wrote:I came to upon this bottle while sifting through a deceased estate. Unfortunately, after many days of research on the web I have been unable to find the answers I seek.
I don’t know why my late father kept this and a couple of other “dead” & “novelty” wines from the same period and country. Perhaps he thought they just tasted nice and brought some home. Who knows, I can’t ask him.
So, in desperation, I thought I would ask the people who might know about this wine bottle. The Wine Enthusiast.
So I registered, logged on and asked away, only to get a smart-alec reply. This reply and replier can only enhance the opinion of some sections of the public as to the type of person who relishes in this type of forum.

Please one & all, ignore my question and ignorance. I shall head off to the local pub and seek the answers from scanky, old, buggers at the bar.

Kind Regards
tcd
Wow...have a cooling glass of champagne old chap!! your post was only up there for a few hours!!

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:05 pm
by peterk
So, in desperation, I thought I would ask the people who might know about this wine bottle. The Wine Enthusiast.
So I registered, logged on and asked away, only to get a smart-alec reply. This reply and replier can only enhance the opinion of some sections of the public as to the type of person who relishes in this type of forum.

Please one & all, ignore my question and ignorance. I shall head off to the local pub and seek the answers from scanky, old, buggers at the bar.

Kind Regards
tcd[/quote]

tcd
I wouldnt take it to personally,its just Martin's sense of humour. Im getting close to the old buggers at the bar age, and sorry I can help I havent a clue about the wine in question. If I could I would, Have a good one
Cheers
Peterk