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Australian Wines from 2001 that will still be going in 2019
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 12:47 pm
by Martin Phillipson
All
Finally taken the plunge and sending a msg to the new forum. Not scared just I lost the first e-mail with my account details!
Anyway, the post refers to the fact that my daughter will turn 18 in 2019 and as the 2001 vintage is starting to show up, I would like your collective advice on what will still be alive in 2019. Now the obvious candidates like Grange, Bin 707, Armagh etc are fine but what about stuff that won't break the bank (altough I will break it if that's all I can find!)? What will still be alive. As I am in Canada try not to be too obscure but as this is my first born I will work hard to secure something for her to uncork on her 18th.
Australian wines only at this stage (he said hoping he will have to say stop posting!)
I watch eagerly for what from 2003 will be alive in 2021, as number two arrived 3 days ago!
A v tired Martin in Saskatoon
2001 Kids
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 1:51 pm
by Ben
Hi Martin,
My partner and I also had baby daughter in 2001 and as such I am going through the same process as you.
So far I have got:
Grosset 2001 Polish Hill Reisling (was $30 a bottle on release 2 years ago)
Dry River 2001 Shiraz (Martinbough NZ and bloody expensive when getting it shipped from NZ)
Clonakilla 2001 Shiraz/Voignier (around $50 a bottle on release but you can only get at auctions now)
Of these the Grosset might get to 2019 and perhaps the magnum of Clonakilla.
I will be getting:
Rockford 2001 BP in the next couple of months (around $50 a bottle CD but you have to be on the mailing list but some seems to released to retail outlets for around $70)
Peiffer 2001 Christoper's VP (from Rutherglen and due out soon around $25 a bottle CD only)
Stanton and Killen VP (from Rutherglen and probably will not be out for a while I am not sure on the price probably in $30-$40 range)
The Rockford might go to 2019 but I will also get a magnum when it is released in 2 years time which should last 20 odd years. I wouldn't have any concerns about the the 2 port lasting and from what I have heard the 2001 should be good wines.
I am also considering trying to get some 2001 Chateau d' Yqeum as it was from all reports an excellent year for Sauternes. From what I have read Yqeum don't sell their wine on En Primeur basis and are currently selling the 1998 so luckily I have a few years to save up! But I would expect these to easily last to 2019 and way beond.
Of the ones listed I would suggest that you go for a Magnum of Rockford BP and the ports if you like fortifieds. As of next year Rockford will not sell the magnums it through a sperate mailing list like they have done but through the cellar door only. The 2001 will be released in August 2005 and the current price for the magnums is $135. I can send you the contact details if you like. Also if you want more info on the Rutherglen ports let me know as I live in the area (I know both of the winemakers) and can do a little research for you.
Good like on the hunt and with the new baby.......good god how can you be ready for another one!!!
Ben
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 1:52 pm
by Gerard Connors
Cullen Cab Merlot 2001 - magnums will be released next year - guaranteed to drink well in 2019.
Moss Wood 2001 should be similar.
Halliday reckons the Howard Park Scotsdale shiraz and Leston cab sauv will last til then in his new book - these are only $30 - I'm not sure if I'll be keeping mine that long, but I really like the Scotsdale.
SA 2001 is contoversial - many would say as a hot year the wines taste good young but won't last long - I've not been around long enough to predict these things.
Ged
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 2:25 pm
by JamieBahrain
Will mention Wendouree before somebody else does.
The shiraz based and straight cabernet sauvignon will go the distance. The cabernet blends tend to be more approachable earlier, an observation, and not doubting they will go on to 2019. The wines are presented with a historic sentimentality-old original labels-which will be nice in 2019.
And a heads up reference Rockford BP Magnums. I think the 99 is out!
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 9:12 pm
by AlanK
Most Vintage Ports and German 01 Spaetleses can last 18 years.
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 10:04 pm
by Daryl Douglas
Mark,
McWilliams shirazes, Mt Pleasant Maurice O'Shea or their OP&OH, would be virtually guaranteed to last the distance, and at a very reasonable cost (A$30). Not sure if either was made 2001. Haven't seen any 2000 from that highly regarded Hunter vintage advertised/reviewed yet so release of any 2001 could be a year or so away. Haven't tried either of these wines but have a couple of bottles of 98 O'Shea stashed away.
Several times more expensive ($100/$200 magnum) but also with a great reputation for longevity is Tahbilk 1860s Vines Shiraz. I tried an 87 a couple of years ago - fully mature but with plenty of years left in it. 250 cases made in 1995. Not released until five years after vintage.
James Halliday gives Cullen Cab Merlot 2001 a drinking window to 2020 and the winemaker Vanya Cullen says at least 15 years. If you can find anyone prepared to part with a bottle or two of the limited number produced with screwcap closures (just guessing, but I'd be surprised if mailing list customers didn't snap up all of the screwcaps - I was too late for any of the mailing list release regardless of closure but did source the wine with cork seals locally at almost 20% below cellar door price), this is the wine I'd choose.
Whatever wine you choose, I hope you and yours thoroughly enjoy it in 2019.
Regards
daz
Johns Blend Cab Sauv 2001
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 11:54 pm
by ACG
For something completely different-The release of the 2001 Johns Blend Cabernet willl be coming up in the not to distant future, a wine that I believ will simply live forever in a good yr.
I say this after rocking up to a tasting with vintages going back to 76 a few weeks ago and being blown away by how well this wine holds up. An 89 that was opened and left in glass for 9 hrs was still going unbelievably strong and the 90 may well live forever. If you like rich,strongly flavoured and oaky South Australian red wines this is a lesser known pick.
Junior
Re: 2001 Kids
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 8:43 am
by michel
Ben wrote:Hi Martin,
My partner and I also had baby daughter in 2001 and as such I am going through the same process as you.
Ben
My wife and I had a daughter 2001 as well and we have similar shopping list me thinks
clonakilla 2001 magnum
Rockford yes waiting for 2001 magnum
Cullen cab 2001 in stelvin and next year hopefully 2001 magnum
My daughters middle name is Eyquem so i would like to get a bottle. Where will you source it from?
I envy you the Dry River- one of the most complete vineyards in the southern hemisphere.
regards
michel
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 5:37 pm
by London Correspondent
The 2001 d 'Yquem won't be released until 2006 (late), and isn't available en premiur. Given it's the, yawn, vintage of the century (early call given it's fairly early on in the piece), prices will be astro on release. Will doubtless vanish quckly too.
JM
Craig(NZ)
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 2:22 pm
by Craig(NZ)
Both my kids were born in 1998 so my job was easier perhaps??
But still it is difficult to guarantee the condition of any wine in 20 years time.