Interesting how the smallest influencing factor can throw you when it comes to assessing a wine. Last night I opened a Veritas 1999 Bulls Blood and when I sniffed the bottle, I thought I detected a faint whiff of a problem. The wine was a bit cold so I put the bottle an oil filled heater for a few minutes; then poured a little bit into a (reasonably) new Spiegleau Magnum glass; Marion had been kind enough to give me a box for my birthday recently.
I noticed the first few times I used these glasses; the bouquet seemed like it was being “messed with†by the glasses and in the back of my mind, I thought they gave a different olfactory result in comparison to my old Spiegleau Bordeaux glasses.
When I first sniffed the Bulls Blood in the glass, it smelt like bandaid city – there was good fruit underneath but it seemed Bretty as hell. On the palate, the first sip tasted a little plastic, but nowhere near as bad as the bouquet suggested. There was also some good tasting fruit below the noticeable bandaid like taste.
I left the wine for about 10 minutes, took another sip and thought, itÂ’s corked. No sign of TCA on the nose though! Took it into the kitchen and poured it into an ISO and the smell of taint was obvious but there was almost no bandaid like aroma in the ISO. I then dragged out my last old Spiegleau Bordeaux glass and poured the sample into it. Whilst the aroma was different to the two other glasses, the bandaid character was much less noticeable in the Bordeaux glass than the Magnum glass and the taint was also obvious.
Amazing!
I then poured three samples of the 1999 JJ Hahn that I had opened instead into three freshly washed glasses. The bigger format glasses both showed differently to the ISO and accentuated different facets of the wine, but the Magnum glass showed more of an accentuation of some of the characters (almost turning it into a characterture) whilst the Bordeaux was closer in style to the ISO.
Now all I have to do is get some more of those Spiegleau Bordeaux glasses and put the magnum glasses at the back of the cupboard where they can be pulled out when Marion comes to visit.
The JJ Hahn still seems tight with fine tannins that are resolving nicely; itÂ’s cleverly built and despite its (just) ample weight, its solidly constructed, impeccably balanced and has an excellent power to weight ratio finishing long and persistent with fruit to the fore. Very savoury with almost no sweetness, black fruits, rich Barossa chocolate, aniseed and Chinese spice flavours are attractive. It still has room to improve too, so there is no hurry to drink up.
Now what have you been drinking?
Glasses - enough to drive you to drink & weekly reports
I rarely venture into the 'lower realms' these days, but the chance to sample a 2003 Oxford Landing Merlot (South Australia) (not mine) at a Thai night out was too good to pass up. Swill. Paint thinner. The colour is OK, but it's got that nesty purpleness about it that invariable indicates a nose of overcropped, harsh, barely-ripe-yet-oakchipped-within-an-inch-of-its-life fruit. Just awful. I just hope it's not displaying the typical terroir of the region or we're all in trouble...
cheers,
Graeme
cheers,
Graeme
One down three to go. 
(And Brian, don't you dare tell Marion about this thread. 
)Hi all,
Quiet week with Gramps '02 Barossa Shiraz just superb last night with roast lamb and all the trimming .
O'Leary Walker '04 Watervale Riesling was also a crowd pleaser as was the '02 Stepping Stone Coonwarra Cabernet which has benefited from a year or so in the cellar. Boxing well above it's weight.
Chuck
Quiet week with Gramps '02 Barossa Shiraz just superb last night with roast lamb and all the trimming .
O'Leary Walker '04 Watervale Riesling was also a crowd pleaser as was the '02 Stepping Stone Coonwarra Cabernet which has benefited from a year or so in the cellar. Boxing well above it's weight.
Chuck
Apart from the '99 Redbank Sally's Paddock midweek which was partly used to help drown sorrows following the State of Origin game, I had a red wine from Marlborough yesterday:
2001 Fromm La Strada Merlot/Malbec
This blend from Marlborough comprises a 75% Merlot component, 20% Malbec and the remainder an assortment of Cab Sauv, Cab Franc and Syrah. To smell, the wine is certainly no fruit bomb, picking up a strong tar character which I haven't found in a lot of wines (my inexperience). There is shades of plum and blackcurrant fruit underneath it all, with liquorice slowly rising to the surface after some extended time in the glass. The oak use is very subtle; a supporting factor rather than a competing one. The palate exudes blackcurrant and traces of black olive, finishing savoury with fine grained tannins. The wine is well made and for $20, you're laughing. May continue to improve, peaking in 3-5 years.
2001 Fromm La Strada Merlot/Malbec
This blend from Marlborough comprises a 75% Merlot component, 20% Malbec and the remainder an assortment of Cab Sauv, Cab Franc and Syrah. To smell, the wine is certainly no fruit bomb, picking up a strong tar character which I haven't found in a lot of wines (my inexperience). There is shades of plum and blackcurrant fruit underneath it all, with liquorice slowly rising to the surface after some extended time in the glass. The oak use is very subtle; a supporting factor rather than a competing one. The palate exudes blackcurrant and traces of black olive, finishing savoury with fine grained tannins. The wine is well made and for $20, you're laughing. May continue to improve, peaking in 3-5 years.
Max
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2002 Pennyfield Wines Basket Pressed Petit Verdot: Glowing dark to inky purple colour. A beautifully perfumed and spicy nose finely balancing ripe fruit and sweet oak, featuring cinnamon, cloves, rose petals, mulberry, dark cherries/sour plum, some toast/fireplace and banana. The mid-weight palate reflected the nose, with sour plum/mulberry on entry followed by spicy blackberries/blueberry, finishing slender but persistent with fine, smoky tannins and hints of olive, licorice and tea on the aftertaste. With extended breathing it becomes a touch jammy with ripe mulberry characters becoming dominant, and olive tannins on the finish becoming powdery. This is a great early drinking, all-purpose food wine that reminded me of the Cabernet Merlot blends I was weaned on; I think it’s an ideal match for tomato or creamy pasta and curries, and Friday night Pizza.
1990 Penfolds Bin 128 Coonawarra Shiraz: Inky red/black colour; there’s a fair amount of thick sludge in the wine so decanting is essential. A complex, lifted nose at first of violets, concentrated tomato and menthol; with breathing it gained ripeness and sweetness with mocha, choc-cherry, some old leather and spirit characters. The palate was extremely dusty/earthy on entry – a friend once told me about the sensation of “tasting the dirt” of an old wine, and likewise this was so dusty I was checking the glass thinking I’d poured in a heap of sludge! This was followed by bright/tangy raspberry fruit with some charred oak, finishing with choc-cherry and very noticeable acid, and some mushroom, licorice and coffee on the aftertaste. I got the feeling this was maybe just a little bit oxidized/past it; the bottle was a museum release from Magill Estate, and strangely it’s the second in the last year to leave me with this impression. At least this time it’s not a Grange.
1996 d’Arenberg The Custodian Grenache: Dark brick colour with a hint of orange on the rim; there’s heavy crusting so decanting is essential. The nose was perfumed, sweet and dusty with dried flowers/earth, dried herbs and some leather. The palate was extremely sweet from the beginning, with bright raspberry and boiled lollies, Turkish Delight and some leather, finishing with sweet, fine tannins with some licorice, strawberry and just a touch of alcohol on the aftertaste. This was a great old Grenache with no signs of falling over soon.
Cheers
Ian
1990 Penfolds Bin 128 Coonawarra Shiraz: Inky red/black colour; there’s a fair amount of thick sludge in the wine so decanting is essential. A complex, lifted nose at first of violets, concentrated tomato and menthol; with breathing it gained ripeness and sweetness with mocha, choc-cherry, some old leather and spirit characters. The palate was extremely dusty/earthy on entry – a friend once told me about the sensation of “tasting the dirt” of an old wine, and likewise this was so dusty I was checking the glass thinking I’d poured in a heap of sludge! This was followed by bright/tangy raspberry fruit with some charred oak, finishing with choc-cherry and very noticeable acid, and some mushroom, licorice and coffee on the aftertaste. I got the feeling this was maybe just a little bit oxidized/past it; the bottle was a museum release from Magill Estate, and strangely it’s the second in the last year to leave me with this impression. At least this time it’s not a Grange.
1996 d’Arenberg The Custodian Grenache: Dark brick colour with a hint of orange on the rim; there’s heavy crusting so decanting is essential. The nose was perfumed, sweet and dusty with dried flowers/earth, dried herbs and some leather. The palate was extremely sweet from the beginning, with bright raspberry and boiled lollies, Turkish Delight and some leather, finishing with sweet, fine tannins with some licorice, strawberry and just a touch of alcohol on the aftertaste. This was a great old Grenache with no signs of falling over soon.
Cheers
Ian
Forget about goodness and mercy, they're gone.
Hi all,
Grant Burge 1993 Meshach
Plummy red colour and a little ‘bricking’ around the edges (if I have understood the term correctly), smoky nose with mocha, prunes, currents on the palate with soft powdery tannins and some acidity to balance, raspberries, cinnamon and cloves. Enjoyable drop but looking forward to a better vintage.
PennyÂ’s Hill 2002 Shiraz
I have done this one to death in Sunday notes, but during the week noticed a lovely honeycomb nose on a bottle that had been opened for two days, which I hadnÂ’t noticed before.
PennyÂ’s Hill 2003 Specialised Shiraz Cabernet Merlot
Enjoyed a couple of bottles of this wine with friends last night – all raspberries and chocolate, full textured with long sweet finish.
Oh, yeah, had some Warrabilla cleanskins during the week - I think it is a shiraz blend....definitely shiraz, not sure of the other grape. Typical of the vineyard, big bold and full of fruit. Best value for money quaffer I've come across.
Regards,
Allan
Grant Burge 1993 Meshach
Plummy red colour and a little ‘bricking’ around the edges (if I have understood the term correctly), smoky nose with mocha, prunes, currents on the palate with soft powdery tannins and some acidity to balance, raspberries, cinnamon and cloves. Enjoyable drop but looking forward to a better vintage.
PennyÂ’s Hill 2002 Shiraz
I have done this one to death in Sunday notes, but during the week noticed a lovely honeycomb nose on a bottle that had been opened for two days, which I hadnÂ’t noticed before.
PennyÂ’s Hill 2003 Specialised Shiraz Cabernet Merlot
Enjoyed a couple of bottles of this wine with friends last night – all raspberries and chocolate, full textured with long sweet finish.
Oh, yeah, had some Warrabilla cleanskins during the week - I think it is a shiraz blend....definitely shiraz, not sure of the other grape. Typical of the vineyard, big bold and full of fruit. Best value for money quaffer I've come across.
Regards,
Allan
well drink a bottle of 02 saltrams mamre brook shiraz while watching the rugby.
must say im pretty impressed. its a lot of shiraz for $19 - shows some real depth and complexity - very typical barossa, soft deep dark fruit with a vein of sweet chocolate flowing underneath.
might have to find me some more.
C
must say im pretty impressed. its a lot of shiraz for $19 - shows some real depth and complexity - very typical barossa, soft deep dark fruit with a vein of sweet chocolate flowing underneath.
might have to find me some more.
C
1998 All Saints Carlyle Durif
Some dark brambly fruits on the nose underpinned by soy and five spice characters. Earthy palate. Pulls up a bit short. Slightly spiky alcohol and oak has not fully integrated. Nice enough, but certainly not getting any better.
Hay Shed Hill 2004 Semillon Sauvignon Blanc
Nice enough, but after the Suckfizzle a few weeks back the bar has been raised with regard to WA SSB. Straightforward, crisp and clean, great with a trout and ricotta crepe stack.
1998 Penfolds 707
Dense nose. Pretty serious stuff. Intense blackcurrant and an attractive jube/black jelly bean character on the nose. Dried herbs and olive tapenade. Still all primary fruits in the mouth, but tannins have certainly softened. Beautifully weighted and obviously well structured with a long vanillan oak driven finish. Look forward to seeing some bottle age characters develop.
LL
Some dark brambly fruits on the nose underpinned by soy and five spice characters. Earthy palate. Pulls up a bit short. Slightly spiky alcohol and oak has not fully integrated. Nice enough, but certainly not getting any better.
Hay Shed Hill 2004 Semillon Sauvignon Blanc
Nice enough, but after the Suckfizzle a few weeks back the bar has been raised with regard to WA SSB. Straightforward, crisp and clean, great with a trout and ricotta crepe stack.
1998 Penfolds 707
Dense nose. Pretty serious stuff. Intense blackcurrant and an attractive jube/black jelly bean character on the nose. Dried herbs and olive tapenade. Still all primary fruits in the mouth, but tannins have certainly softened. Beautifully weighted and obviously well structured with a long vanillan oak driven finish. Look forward to seeing some bottle age characters develop.
LL
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visitor wrote:What does it mean when a red wine is sort of cloudy?
When you hold it up to the light it's like looking through fog. It's not sediment more just an aoverall cloudy appearance.
It's a 98 Elderton Cab Sauv.
I was really looking forward to it but it's obviously a faulty bottle.
Visitor, this may have been better in a new thread than the weekly tasting report one, it may get a bit lost here.
Is/was there any fine brown sludge collected on the side the bottle was lying or at the bottom of the bottle? What does it smell/taste like? Was the bottle shaken up before pouring? Was this the first glass poured?
This wine would probably be fined and filtered so shouldn't be cloudy from lack of those.
Some sediments are fine enough to show as cloudy rather than particles and microbial contamination can leave a fine colloidal sludge that will cause the wine to be cloudy if it is disturbed.
Cheers
Brian
Life's too short to drink white wine and red wine is better for you too! :-)
Brian
Life's too short to drink white wine and red wine is better for you too! :-)
Does drinking Pinot count as having an alcohol free day? Not that I would drink Pinot but a "friend" told me about.....
2002 Ashton Hills Pinot, this is the kind of Pinot that could tempt a red bigot. Not one of those big Pinot's that try to look like a Shiraz (and always fail in the process), this wine has intense Pinot characters on both nose and palate.
Full of serious strawberry and mushroom character, quite complex with a myriad of nuances.
This is one of a trio of Adelaide Hills Pinots that stand out in the 2002 vintage, the other two being Barratt Reserve and Aldgate Ridge.
2002 Ashton Hills Pinot, this is the kind of Pinot that could tempt a red bigot. Not one of those big Pinot's that try to look like a Shiraz (and always fail in the process), this wine has intense Pinot characters on both nose and palate.
Full of serious strawberry and mushroom character, quite complex with a myriad of nuances.
This is one of a trio of Adelaide Hills Pinots that stand out in the 2002 vintage, the other two being Barratt Reserve and Aldgate Ridge.
Cheers - Steve
If you can see through it, it's not worth drinking!
If you can see through it, it's not worth drinking!
n4sir wrote:2002 Pennyfield Wines Basket Pressed Petit Verdot: Glowing dark to inky purple colour. A beautifully perfumed and spicy nose finely balancing ripe fruit and sweet oak, featuring cinnamon, cloves, rose petals, mulberry, dark cherries/sour plum, some toast/fireplace and banana. The mid-weight palate reflected the nose, with sour plum/mulberry on entry followed by spicy blackberries/blueberry, finishing slender but persistent with fine, smoky tannins and hints of olive, licorice and tea on the aftertaste. With extended breathing it becomes a touch jammy with ripe mulberry characters becoming dominant, and olive tannins on the finish becoming powdery. This is a great early drinking, all-purpose food wine that reminded me of the Cabernet Merlot blends I was weaned on; I think itÂ’s an ideal match for tomato or creamy pasta and curries, and Friday night Pizza.
Cheers
Ian
My Dad had a couple of these during the week, he took a few bottles down to the local Surf Lifesaving Club and he and the chef proceeeded to test the wine against different foods. Their conclusions were that this wine is certainly not suited to meat dishes like steak and casserole but it went "...absolutely bloody fantastic.." (his words) with spicy, thai like dishes.
Cheers
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707 wrote:Agree Mark, I had a bottle with a curry (Rogan Josh) on the weekend and it matched really well.
At $15 a bottle, which goes to a good charitable cause too, this is a nice wine.
Do you have any still available for sale?
At the risk of sounding like a plug, no, but they can be obtained direct from the Women and Childrens Hospital Organisation (PM me or email me for contact details) and I will be offering them again during the next auction as well.
Cheers
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I'm halfway through a year of not buying wine BUT as planned I am on holidays in July and am enjoying a few wines whilst watching the Tour de France in the evenings on TV. Started off with some Barossa wines
HAAN Chanticleer Cabernet Rose Brut : ( $15 ) pleasant pink bubbles but lacked finesse and length compared to say Ashton Hills Salmon Brut.
2004 Kaesler Old Vine Semiilon : ( $ 13 ) light style for a Barossa semillon , atypical really , kept fresh under screwcap - good but almost too un-Barossa like - normally I could pick a Barossa Semillon but I doubt that I would pick this blind. Never thought I'd say it but...not enough wood !
2005 Langmeil Bella Rouge Cabernet Rose : ( $ 14 ) same raspberry cordial colour as most Rose from Barossa but actually nice and crisp and fairly dry.
A trio of good value ( all under $20 ) and presented in screwcap fresh regional reds all of good quality : 2004 Kalleske Clarry's Red Grenache Shiraz , 2003 Magpie Estate The Schnell ! Grenache Shiraz and 2004 Teusner The Riebke Ebeneezer Road Shiraz - all had nice raspberry fruit with The Magpie Estate IMO the best as it had that nice lush aspect of good Barossa. these go to show you do not need to spend a lot to get decent real Barossa wines.
I'm off soon to raid the off site cellar for some drinks for the rest of July.....
HAAN Chanticleer Cabernet Rose Brut : ( $15 ) pleasant pink bubbles but lacked finesse and length compared to say Ashton Hills Salmon Brut.
2004 Kaesler Old Vine Semiilon : ( $ 13 ) light style for a Barossa semillon , atypical really , kept fresh under screwcap - good but almost too un-Barossa like - normally I could pick a Barossa Semillon but I doubt that I would pick this blind. Never thought I'd say it but...not enough wood !
2005 Langmeil Bella Rouge Cabernet Rose : ( $ 14 ) same raspberry cordial colour as most Rose from Barossa but actually nice and crisp and fairly dry.
A trio of good value ( all under $20 ) and presented in screwcap fresh regional reds all of good quality : 2004 Kalleske Clarry's Red Grenache Shiraz , 2003 Magpie Estate The Schnell ! Grenache Shiraz and 2004 Teusner The Riebke Ebeneezer Road Shiraz - all had nice raspberry fruit with The Magpie Estate IMO the best as it had that nice lush aspect of good Barossa. these go to show you do not need to spend a lot to get decent real Barossa wines.
I'm off soon to raid the off site cellar for some drinks for the rest of July.....
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Pelican wrote:
A trio of good value ( all under $20 ) and presented in screwcap fresh regional reds all of good quality : [b]2004 Kalleske Clarry's Red Grenache Shiraz ,
I was at Kalleske a couple of weeks ago to review the full range and was very impressed with this beuty for its value.Very apprroachable.
>C
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Some impressions more than notes
2002 Vasse Felix Cab Merlot Nice full bodied wine - good stuff.
2003 Moss Wood Cab blend Can't remember the name but obviously their lower range. Not too bad but nothing to write home about. A little bit thin and green.
1998 Ebenezer Cab Shiraz Looking a bit past it. Was expecting more. A bit thin really.
1998 Peter Lehman Shiraz Plenty of chocolate in this but again feeling a bit thin and past it. Seemed like a lot of alcohol in it but didn't check - just a lot of VA.
2003 Seppelt Chalambar Felt big after the PL shiraz. Lots of cherry and plenty of juicy flavour.
Looks like I might have to start getting stuck into the 98s - they don't look like they are going the distance in many cases and I've got heaps of them.
2002 Vasse Felix Cab Merlot Nice full bodied wine - good stuff.
2003 Moss Wood Cab blend Can't remember the name but obviously their lower range. Not too bad but nothing to write home about. A little bit thin and green.
1998 Ebenezer Cab Shiraz Looking a bit past it. Was expecting more. A bit thin really.
1998 Peter Lehman Shiraz Plenty of chocolate in this but again feeling a bit thin and past it. Seemed like a lot of alcohol in it but didn't check - just a lot of VA.
2003 Seppelt Chalambar Felt big after the PL shiraz. Lots of cherry and plenty of juicy flavour.
Looks like I might have to start getting stuck into the 98s - they don't look like they are going the distance in many cases and I've got heaps of them.
Cheers,
Kris
There's a fine wine between pleasure and pain
(Stolen from the graffiti in the ladies loos at Pegasus Bay winery)
Kris
There's a fine wine between pleasure and pain
(Stolen from the graffiti in the ladies loos at Pegasus Bay winery)
Altough more than 15 wines were drunk on the weekend and I'd like to tell you about it, let Adair do his article before anything said.
A little wine was opened on a seperate occassion:
2003 TALYORS Shiraz
Medium bodied, quite pleasant and nice at AU $13 but the mighty 1999,
(some of the) 2000 or 2001 were better wines in the past. This one lacked concentration but I should not complain at the price.
Cheers,
Attila
Ps: TORB, I'm sorry to hear that the fantastic 1999 Veritas didn't work out on this occassion.
A little wine was opened on a seperate occassion:
2003 TALYORS Shiraz
Medium bodied, quite pleasant and nice at AU $13 but the mighty 1999,
(some of the) 2000 or 2001 were better wines in the past. This one lacked concentration but I should not complain at the price.
Cheers,
Attila
Ps: TORB, I'm sorry to hear that the fantastic 1999 Veritas didn't work out on this occassion.
Couple of wines this week no formal notes Torbreck 99 the factor, smart wine all in place. 91 Tahbilk cab/sauv good wine as usual, imo if you like the style and hey who can complain about the price one of the best ageing under 20$ wines in aust. A 2000 peppertree grand cab/sauv good wine,a Buller rare muscat, very nice. Currently a 99 Brokenwood Graveyard, all there as well. plenty of black cherry,fine powdery tannins stacks of flavour and a nice nose,it will sit for a good while. good wine.
Cheers peter.
Cheers peter.
02 saltrams mamre brook shiraz
in front of the rugby on saturday was very impressed with this wine. seemed to box well above the $19 i paid
attila, the one thing i find with the taylors shiraz - it has good fruit, great concentration but the oak is bloody aweful..chippy, charry and aweful.
i just really hate those characters in a wine and is the best way a wine can scream 'i am cheap' or 'why not just buy beer'
anyway out to dinner with adair tomorrow night. no doubt he will fly home thinking we are all freaken nuts (especially as my website partner rawnsley is attending as well) but will try to soften the blow with a few good kiwi wines.
attila, the one thing i find with the taylors shiraz - it has good fruit, great concentration but the oak is bloody aweful..chippy, charry and aweful.
i just really hate those characters in a wine and is the best way a wine can scream 'i am cheap' or 'why not just buy beer'
anyway out to dinner with adair tomorrow night. no doubt he will fly home thinking we are all freaken nuts (especially as my website partner rawnsley is attending as well) but will try to soften the blow with a few good kiwi wines.
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There must be some problem because this wine is far from that usuallyBroughy wrote:1994 Wynns Michael Shiraz
Oh dear whats going on here? Thin, Weedy, extremely acidic, virtually undrinkable. No oxidation, cork problem.
Came from a friends cellar so unknown condition but not a wine I would be seeking out
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707 wrote:Does drinking Pinot count as having an alcohol free day? Not that I would drink Pinot but a "friend" told me about.....
2002 Ashton Hills Pinot, this is the kind of Pinot that could tempt a red bigot. Not one of those big Pinot's that try to look like a Shiraz (and always fail in the process), this wine has intense Pinot characters on both nose and palate.
Full of serious strawberry and mushroom character, quite complex with a myriad of nuances.
This is one of a trio of Adelaide Hills Pinots that stand out in the 2002 vintage, the other two being Barratt Reserve and Aldgate Ridge.
Is this the Estate pinot? or Adelaide Hills?
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Broughy wrote:
1994 Wynns Michael Shiraz
Oh dear whats going on here? Thin, Weedy, extremely acidic, virtually undrinkable. No oxidation, cork problem.
Came from a friends cellar so unknown condition but not a wine I would be seeking out
I have tried 2 out of my dozen and both times I was left feeling underwhelmed. Not to the extent that you have described, but I definitely found the wine to be thin aswell. I wasn't sure if the the nose was tight or it just lacked bouquet. The palate was very short and it had not developed any complexities at all.
They say that sometimes a wine can go through a period when it
"goes to sleep", given the price I paid for them, I hope they wake up soon.........
The Ashton Hills was the Estate wine with the full wrap around label.
I think the non estate wine is called Picadilly Valley and produced from fruit grown by a number of near neighbours plus any barrels that don't measure up to his high standards for the estate label.
I think the non estate wine is called Picadilly Valley and produced from fruit grown by a number of near neighbours plus any barrels that don't measure up to his high standards for the estate label.
Cheers - Steve
If you can see through it, it's not worth drinking!
If you can see through it, it's not worth drinking!
Gianna.. wrote:Broughy wrote:
1994 Wynns Michael Shiraz
Oh dear whats going on here? Thin, Weedy, extremely acidic, virtually undrinkable. No oxidation, cork problem.
Came from a friends cellar so unknown condition but not a wine I would be seeking out
I have tried 2 out of my dozen and both times I was left feeling underwhelmed. Not to the extent that you have described, but I definitely found the wine to be thin aswell. I wasn't sure if the the nose was tight or it just lacked bouquet. The palate was very short and it had not developed any complexities at all.
They say that sometimes a wine can go through a period when it
"goes to sleep", given the price I paid for them, I hope they wake up soon.........
Sadly, I think too many Michaels are over-oaked and under-fruited. At least, under-fruited for the amount of oak they have to carry. I've had one decent bottle of the 91 (from 4), and nothing much else to write home about. Perhaps the 96 is OK - I haven't tried it. You'd have to say the auction market tumbled to this wine, on the whole. Made a mistake when they took John Riddoch with it though - that's the premium Wynns to keep.
cheers,
Graeme
Going to Marque on Thursday to celebrate the Bastille day with a colleague and his wife.
Four wines are on the list.
1. 1996 Lovedale Semillon
2. 1993 Domaine Bonneau De Martray Corton-Charlemagne Grand Cru
3. 1998 Chateau Leoville Barton Saint Julien
4. 1994 Jacaranda Ridge
Will post menu along with TN after.
Four wines are on the list.
1. 1996 Lovedale Semillon
2. 1993 Domaine Bonneau De Martray Corton-Charlemagne Grand Cru
3. 1998 Chateau Leoville Barton Saint Julien
4. 1994 Jacaranda Ridge
Will post menu along with TN after.
Cheers
Rob
"The red liquid circulating in my body is actually red wine, not blood."
Rob
"The red liquid circulating in my body is actually red wine, not blood."
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Ric, interesting observation on the effects of different glasses. Couple of years ago we did a group tasting, and for some reason I ended up with a shallower burgundy-style glass. Poured a wine, and immediately could tell it was corked. But no one else (out of more than a dozen) that already had the wine had noticed. They all had medium sized bordeaux-style bowls. When I let several try my glass, they picked it up quickly. It's always a conundrum to me, which glass to pick to accentuate what aspects of a wine (nose, that is, I'm not much of a believer in glass shape influencing the taste of a wine).
As for drinking:
2002 Clarendon Hills Kangarilla Grenache
At first, pretty woody, savory, tannic; a couple hours of air does wonders, backing down the oak and bringing out intense dark fruit, with a long savory finish. Pretty good stuff. Filled a half bottle with the remains (A group of us had a large number of wines open for the 4th) and stuck it in the fridge for a few days while doing a float trip on the Russian River. Another wine had really blossomed, showing beautifully, but the Clarendon had completely fallen apart: acidic, astringent, alcoholic, very woody, plain awful.
A 2002 Burge Family D & OH Shiraz/Grenache was fantastic, like a totally clean southern rhone with deep, dark, meaty fruit, perfect balance, very nice finish. Will pick up a couple more of these.
Cheers,
Alan
As for drinking:
2002 Clarendon Hills Kangarilla Grenache
At first, pretty woody, savory, tannic; a couple hours of air does wonders, backing down the oak and bringing out intense dark fruit, with a long savory finish. Pretty good stuff. Filled a half bottle with the remains (A group of us had a large number of wines open for the 4th) and stuck it in the fridge for a few days while doing a float trip on the Russian River. Another wine had really blossomed, showing beautifully, but the Clarendon had completely fallen apart: acidic, astringent, alcoholic, very woody, plain awful.
A 2002 Burge Family D & OH Shiraz/Grenache was fantastic, like a totally clean southern rhone with deep, dark, meaty fruit, perfect balance, very nice finish. Will pick up a couple more of these.
Cheers,
Alan