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Jeremy Oliver has tasted the 2000 Grange for the second time and says it should never be released under that label.

Penfolds responded by saying that it is a tradition that Grange be released every year and that since only a small quintity was released it would minimise any problems involved.

Oliver gave it 87 points with drink 2005-2008 and he tasted it with an experienced winemaker that says his score is genorous.

Lets hope Penfolds are compasionate enough to not rip any potential buyers off by charging an arm and a leg like they normally can and do but this time with the quility not there. I would be very carefull over buying if i was a retailer and they charge the norm. Fingers might be burnt here.

According to what I was told, production is about 15% of normal so there won't be much around. Also, according to what I was told (and it was from a Penfold's employee) it will last 20+ years.

Time will tell but as it will be so hard to get hold of, only those who are desperate to buy it will get it. My bet is price will be the same.

I have just read the Oliver article, it is well reasoned (and makes a load of sense) but will probaly fall on deaf ears.

I bet its not as good as the 02 Magill or RWT that will be realesed with it.

Note: I posted this on another forum, but this guest posting here isn't me.

I Think It Is U

More reviews of 2000 Grange (and other elite Penfolds), here:

http://www.winefrontmonthly.com.au/events.htm

TORB wrote:According to what I was told, production is about 15% of normal so there won't be much around. Also, according to what I was told (and it was from a Penfold's employee) it will last 20+ years.

I heard a much reduced production figure from an inside source - 10% - but he's not on the winemaking staff! Won't be buying any at any price!

cheers,
Graeme

Q.
Which wine will be worth more in 10 years time: 1998 or 2000? Laughable it it ends up being the 2000 on rarity value alone.

I wonder how many bottles will be made vs 96,98 and 99 in numbers? I bet most is never actually drunk.

For investment {which I loathe} the 90A,920 or Block 42 has to be underpriced compared to Grange these days.