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Hi.

I am wanting some advice concerning red wine. I'm wanting a good value, Australian wine, that will be available at my local bottle shop.

Cheers.

naff question. try here: http://www.auswine.com.au/forum/search. ... 25ca22f6dc

Gavin put together a list a few months ago, which is a good place to start: http://www.auswine.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2259

cheers,

David M.

What price range are you looking at and are you after bigger gutsier styles or something medium bodied?

Armed with those answers we can probably assist a bit more although Gavin's list was very good and a great starting point.

This is a very borad question. Please refine it and we may be able to give you some answers.

Rob wrote:This is a very borad question. Please refine it and we may be able to give you some answers.

Remind me not to ask questions here again with this type of attitude

What does it mean borad?

Whoa, you're getting the wrong idea here about us, we're very willing to help but just need a little clarification.

It's no good us recommending great value wines that are $35 if what you're really looking for are value wines around the $15 mark.

"Borad was a typo, read broad and it was asking the same simple question, give us a few basic parameters and we're more than happy to provide suggestions.

OK, over to you again, narrow down what you're after and we'll see what we come up with.

Bkeela. Be more specific. my dear...

Range:

Budget:

Preference:

We are a friendly community

Bkeela, Rob means to be helpful & friendly, not giving you 'attitude'.
Broad (mistyped as borad) question is what he meant. Where are you - Australia, overseas, small town, big city? What sort of money do you wish to spend, $10, $30, $100 per bottle?

For my part, 2 reds I believe are superb value, Seppelts Victoria Shiraz 2002 or 2003, $13/$15, and Saltram Mamre Brook Cabernet 2002, $18/$20.

Welcome to the forum, look forward to more posts/questions from you

regards, Mark S.

Bkeela wrote:

Rob wrote:This is a very borad question. Please refine it and we may be able to give you some answers.

Remind me not to ask questions here again with this type of attitude

What does it mean borad?

Hi Bkeela,

I am sure Rob meant no offence when he replied to your request. It's just we will need a few more details if we are to be able to assist.

Your question is "broad"; meaning that it is very difficult to answer without more information about what you like and what you have available (red wine drinkers - particularly bigots - can be prone to the odd typo).

You have asked for suggestions on a good value, Australian red wine that will be available in your local bottle shop. In regard to value you could perhaps provide a price range in which you are looking to purchase - value has a lot to do with the quality of wine relative to it's price. For instance a Water Wheel Shiraz may be considered good value under $15, but a Turkey Flat Shiraz at around $45 would also be considered excellent value given the quality of the wine.

In regard to whether you will be able to find any recommendations in your local bottle shop, I would suggest telling us which town / city you live in. You may not live in Australia, in which case your options will be greatly reduced. Alternatively, you could let us know what Australian reds you have available to you and ask for comment on their value.

But for a great starting point, check out Dave's link above to Gavin's list, or go to the current specials section of the Auswine site .

And for what it's worth, for widely available Australian reds, Seppelt seems to be displaying excellent value at all price points - from the Victorian Premium Reserve range at around $15, right up to the St Peter's shiraz at around $50.

People here are friendly and welcoming so let us know a bit more and we'd be happy to help.

Cheers

Andy

Amazing how a few posts can go up when you get distracted and haven't finished your reply.

I think 707, Mark, "Guest" and I have all given the same idea - it's a welcoming board so let us know a bit more and people will help. Also broad agreement that the Seppelt Victorian Reserve shiraz is a great wine and excellent value.

Being discussed over a few reds last night was how the Southcorp Rosemount reverse takeover f...ed up everything in their group except the former leper of their group Seppelt, which has gone from strength to strength over the same period.

Waiting to see if the 2002 Bin range has turned the corner in this super vintage.

Probably should have posted this seperately, probably will.

Bkeela wrote:

Rob wrote:This is a very borad question. Please refine it and we may be able to give you some answers.

Remind me not to ask questions here again with this type of attitude

What does it mean borad?

sorry if I offended you, not intentional. As many mentioned, we need to know your preference before we can suggest any wine. I like big SA Wine especially Shiraz and Cab so if you don't like big wine then you won't like my suggestions. If you can gives us some information on what do you like then we are more than happy to help.

[quote="Bkeela"]I'm wanting a good value, Australian wine, that will be available at my local bottle shop.

its safe to say in asking that question you are fairly new to the world of wine drinking, so i reckon buying something worth $40 [or even $25] will be lost on you. I'd start around $15 and you should be well satisfied. as stated Seppelt and Waterwheel will provide nice drinking atpp. i'd also suggest you consider Charles Sturt Uni wines. i reckon they are very interesting wines. sure, plenty better but plenty far worse. i am drinking a 2000 Cab Merlot of theirs atm and its delish, and i found it for only $11. The grapes are sourced from decent regions, Langhorne Creek/Hilltops/Tumbarumba. The fruit is nicely above the oak and it is both soft and savoury. Its drinking at its peak right now. also Preece wines are worth a gander.
you can find them at most discount places for around a tenner and will provide you with pleasant drinking. Its your attitude that will make it memorable. You can be a pauper bugetwise and still drink like a king.
a spirit of celebration and appreciation is mandatory though.

didgidee wrote: its safe to say in asking that question you are fairly new to the world of wine drinking, so i reckon buying something worth $40 [or even $25] will be lost on you.

I'm not sure judging Bkeela's wine tastes so dismissively is in the best interests of encouraging him and others to support this forum. A lot of subtlety in wine is lost on me as well, but it does not stop me asking questions and receiving helpful and supportive answers.

good gracious, some people can 'misjudge' the most honourable of intentions. why are people so thin skinned nowadaze? The world seems full of nitpickers!

your sure right about the subtlety comment though.

that is precisely why i am usually content to remain a bottom feeder on the wine-food chain. i reckon there is some very good buying for under $20 and sometimes for even $10! I am not a cashed up purist and am in hog heaven knocking off a [for eg:] Brown Brothers Everton most times. around a ten spot at discount barns.

i started my journey with wine via nicking some of my folks Benean Moselle and they are still amongst my absolute fave wine memories. if i slugged back some serious gear i could easily have been scared off for life!

Hack, i was not being dismissive at all. did i try to answer the question? i think i tried. so, how about you tossing something supportive into the pot? If my attempt at answering is not up to scratch then you are welcome to trump me mate. go ahead, make my drinking day!

if Bkeela can drink something EX'y and enjoy it then damn good drinkin' partner! Perhaps a less vague question would have got him/her more precise and less questionable answers.

anyway thats flogged that dead horse 'nuff i reckon...

Hacker wrote:

didgidee wrote: its safe to say in asking that question you are fairly new to the world of wine drinking, so i reckon buying something worth $40 [or even $25] will be lost on you.

I'm not sure judging Bkeela's wine tastes so dismissively is in the best interests of encouraging him and others to support this forum. A lot of subtlety in wine is lost on me as well, but it does not stop me asking questions and receiving helpful and supportive answers.

BORAD- Ali G's inept alter ego from the Middle east, responsible for some of the funniest impromptu skits ever on TV.

So you see, Bkeela( being a man of great taste in television) may have thought that you were comparing him to Borad ( "... thats a very borad question"), and i can see why he would take offense!

Funniest skit ever..... the one where he asked a group of upper class english patrons to teach him proper manners... pants wettingly funny.


HAPPY NEW YEAR !!

All the best


GD

didgidee wrote:Hack, i was not being dismissive at all.

If I misjudged your comment ....apologies.

how about you tossing something supportive into the pot? If my attempt at answering is not up to scratch then you are welcome to trump me mate. go ahead, make my drinking day!

take a look at the third post in this thread, but for what it is worth my 2c are Mamre Brook 2002 Cab Sav and any of the recently released Chalambars, 2000 thru 2002.

To all, but especially to didgidee, Bkeela and Gavin, have a happy and safe new year!

cheers,

David M.

Grant Dodd wrote:
Funniest skit ever..... the one where he asked a group of upper class english patrons to teach him proper manners... pants wettingly funny.

At the risk of thread drift..... couldn't agree more Grant, I'm laughing just thinking of of the skit. Also loved the one where he interviewed the Beckhams and started by addressing Mrs Becks "So Scary...."

Grant Dodd wrote:BORAD- Ali G's inept alter ego from the Middle east, responsible for some of the funniest impromptu skits ever on TV.
GD

I think you'll find it's BoraT (although still hilariously funny).

no probs David . very happy our horns didnt tangle for too long. lifes too short and there is so much good drinking to be had.

well if i can buy any of the Mamre Brook Cab or Chalambars for '2 cents' worth[a bottle] i will blow my credit card limit to kingdom come buying out all available stocks. Both good wines for sure and could hardly displease. by the way, where the hell is Roseville? isn't that Hunter vineyard territory?

take a look at the third post in this thread, but for what it is worth my 2c are Mamre Brook 2002 Cab Sav and any of the recently released Chalambars, 2000 thru 2002.

To all, but especially to didgidee, Bkeela and Gavin, have a happy and safe new year!

cheers,

David M.[/quote]

didgidee wrote:by the way, where the hell is Roseville? isn't that Hunter vineyard territory?

Roseville is not some garden lovers utopia, but a north shore suburb of Sydney. Great for bringing up kids.

cheers,

David M.

Postscript to the Borat thread-drift

Attached is further proof that some Americans have a complete lack of humour.

http://www.onetel.net/pa.php?section=en ... 20prank%20