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NOBLEROTTERSSYDNEY - YARRA YERING - Fix, St James, Sydney (3/08/2022)

Thanks to the generosity of Gordon, Geoffrey and Glenn, we drank four Yarra Yering verticals of recent vintages this month. Founded by scientist Dr Bailey Carrodus in 1969, the business was sold intact after his death in 2008. Some things are unchanged; the high prices, the ‘don’t-give-a-rats,-designed-by-the-work-experience-kid’ label, the quirkily cryptic names. But the range has expanded enormously compared to the half-dozen bottling that Carrodus regularly offered.
Fizz + Red Wine No 3
One of the indulgences of Dr C was the authentic all-Portugese variety fortified ‘Potsorts’ (nee Portsorts), the last of which was made in the 2010 vintage. Clearly not considered viable with his passing, it’s been dumped and rather than rip out the vines, the grapes have presumably been steered into this table wine. Touriga nacional, Tinta cao, Tinta roriz, Tinta amarela, Alvarelhao, Sousao. Foot-trodden in a single fermenter, apparently. Hard to see the value in this at $100 though.
  • NV Albert Lebrun Champagne Grand Cru - France, Champagne, Champagne Grand Cru
    {diam, 12%} [Stephen] Lovely, developing nose of yeasty aromas and pure melon fruit with a honey tinge. The palate is dry, medium/full bodied, with ripe fruit and biscuit-like flavours. A hint of nutty interest too, freshly sour finish. Medium-sized creamily aggressive bubbles that settle with a bit of air. Medium length finish. Good stuff.
  • 2019 Yarra Yering Dry Red N°3 - Australia, Victoria, Port Phillip, Yarra Valley
    {screwcap, 12.5%} Floral nose. Roses with little oak. The most tobacco-like of the three in aroma. Light/medium in weight. Cherry flavours, slightly dusty palate, low/medium powdery tannins, but also fairly low in acid. Short/medium finish. Easy drinker of no great distinction.
  • 2018 Yarra Yering Dry Red N°3 - Australia, Victoria, Port Phillip, Yarra Valley
    {screwcap, 13%} Floral and fragrant with a cranberry twist. Deep cherry and blackberry flavours with an exotic spicy note. Way better than the 2019. Medium weight, medium tannins but still only subtle oak. Crunchy, savoury medium/long finish. Cleanest and most impressive of the “No 3” wines tasted.
  • 2017 Yarra Yering Dry Red N°3 - Australia, Victoria, Port Phillip, Yarra Valley
    {screwcap, 13%} The darkest-hued of the noses, if you like, with a blackberry aspect, but also the least intense. The medium-bodied palate turns out to be the leanest of the three, despite a hint of blueberry fruit, with low acid, medium powdery tannins and shorter, muted sort of finish. A bit dull, in my view.
Underhill Shiraz
From a single 8 eight-acre block at the Western end of the property. I recall a long-standing legal issue with the naming of this wine – for many years the Yarra Yering name didn’t appear on the bottle, just ‘Underhill’ beneath the double-Y symbol. I found this the most disappointing bracket on the night; the wines thin and verging on unripe, without depth or much interest.
  • 2019 Yarra Yering Shiraz Underhill - Australia, Victoria, Port Phillip, Yarra Valley
    {screwcap, 13.5%} Youthful nose of blackberry and spice. Prickly, spice palate, a touch stalky and green somehow. Light/medium weight, with moderate oak, chalky medium tannins and a short medium finish. Doesn’t seem like much wine for $130, despite a fairly evenly balanced palate.
  • 2018 Yarra Yering Shiraz Underhill - Australia, Victoria, Port Phillip, Yarra Valley
    {screwcap, 13.5%} Seductively youthful nose of blueberry, spice, chocolate. Still a touch stalky on the palate, but not really unripe. Medium weight and acidity. A bit earthy on the palate, with a bit of dark green about it. But a finish that’s barely short/medium in length.
  • 2017 Yarra Yering Shiraz Underhill - Australia, Victoria, Port Phillip, Yarra Valley
    {screwcap, 13%} Very similar to the 2018 for me; with blue fruit aromas, spice and chocolate. Not oaky though. A hint of banana, even. Seemed a touch reductive and rubbery on the palate. Black olive sort of flavours. Medium weight, low/medium powdery tannins. Short/medium finish. Not impressive.
Red Wine No 2
Was always a blend of at least shiraz and viognier, long before it became fashionable, but these days seems to contain Mataro and Marsanne as well.
  • 2019 Yarra Yering Dry Red N°2 - Australia, Victoria, Port Phillip, Yarra Valley
    {screwcap, 13.5%} Shiraz 96%, mataro 3%, viognier 1%, with extra (frozen !) viognier skins added to the ferment. Dark-hued. Eucalypt and Blackberry nose. A bit steely. Iron fillings on the palate, black fruit, soft oak. And a touch of earth. Predictably youthful. Medium/full weight, with medium chalky tannins and medium acidity. Even palate. Medium length finish. Perhaps a bit clinical? Or just needs time? OK. $130 from the website. Ouch.
  • 2018 Yarra Yering Dry Red N°2 - Australia, Victoria, Port Phillip, Yarra Valley
    {screwcap, 13.5%} Shiraz 95%, mataro 3%, viognier 1%, marsanne 1%. Marsanne & viognier skins added to the ferment. Black raspberry compote nose. Iodine. Much more overt apricot character on the palate here ; but it’s a bit lean, with redf fruit subdued. Medium weight, with medium dusty tannins and medium acid. Even palate ; I think time will help here, but I can sense it turning a bit greener as the years pass somehow.
  • 2017 Yarra Yering Dry Red N°2 - Australia, Victoria, Port Phillip, Yarra Valley
    {screwcap, 13.5%} Shiraz 95%, mataro 3%, viognier 1%, marsanne 1%. Marsanne & viognier skins added to the ferment. Very similar wine to the 2018, but with the red fruit reticent, tobacco and apricot flavours to the fore. Medium weight and length of finish, soft powdery tannins.
Red Wine No 1 and Sweets
At this point I was still hoping for something wonderful – it’s a been a terrific wine over the years – but although this flight was a step up it was disappointingly consistent with the previous ones. Especially for a wine they want $150 for…
  • 2019 Yarra Yering Dry Red N°1 - Australia, Victoria, Port Phillip, Yarra Valley
    {screwcap, 13.5%} CabS, Merlot, Malbec and PV in a 67/15/12/6 ratio. Pure cabernet nose; currants and subtle French oak. A bit raw but classy. Medium weight. Sound cabernet palate, although fairly lean and herb-like. Even palate, medium length finish. Has some potential, yes.
  • 2018 Yarra Yering Dry Red N°1 - Australia, Victoria, Port Phillip, Yarra Valley
    {screwcap, 13.5%} CabS, Merlot, Malbec and PV in a 55/28/12/5 ratio. Extra merlot here seems to add a youthful juicy purity to the nose, although it’s still very curranty. Dark herb and cabernet fruit palate. Even palate, medium weight, medium/long finish. The pick of the reds tonight for me.
  • 2017 Yarra Yering Dry Red N°1 - Australia, Victoria, Port Phillip, Yarra Valley
    {screwcap, 13.5%} CabS, Merlot, Malbec and PV in a 70/18/8/4 ratio. Tobacco, cassis, black olive. Starting to develop a little. Fairly astringent palate with medium chalky tannins. Seems to be a sort of vanilla/camphor note on the palate; yes, there’s black fruit too, but it’s confused and bitty somehow. Needs time, certainly, but it feels like there’s a hard underlying greenness that’s here to stay. Medium body, medium length finish. But not really convincing.
  • 2009 Miranda Sémillon Golden Botrytis - Australia, New South Wales, Big Rivers, Riverina
    {375ml, screwcap, 13%} [Stephen] Two bottles; one cork sealed, one screwcap, and both very different; I tasted only the screwcap edition, which was apparently the fresher of the two. Copper nose, verging on brass. Strong vanilla bean aroma. Luscious palate, decadent and honeyed, Riding on sugar a bit as an acid substitute. So it sags a bit on the palate and in length of finish, but the medium/sweet richness of the fruit just carries it. Drink up though, even under screwcap.
Interesting night, although it seemed that Rotters were rather underwhelmed, on average. I certainly was! I can’t help thinking that the introduction of the ‘Carrodus’ white-on-black-label luxury cuvees (at eye-watering prices) over the last decade has robbed the standard wines of their best fruit, and it rather shows. Certainly, there are no bargains here. Seems to be a great many bottlings of lots of different wines from multiple vintages available on the website too, so others might be thinking the same thing…

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many thanks for the notes. Totally agree, none worth anything near the asking price. I thought the 2018(?) pinot wasn't bad when tasted about a year ago, for $30ish it would be decent value, but I think it retails for over $100 lol

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Thanks Graeme, I first got interested in 'aged' wine with the 1981 YY 1, and still have a love for them with 10-15 years age. I have a few of the later releases on the strength of past memories, but at $110 or so these are last I will be cellaring. My last taste was the 2005 which was drinking superbly.
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Thanks Graeme...you have done me a big favour and certainly respect the experience you have, from this tasting group.
I have a bit of YY from the 1990s and a little from the 2000s.
I picked up 3 each of the 2016: 1, 2, light dry red (?? No. 3), UH and Agincourt, my last purchase.

I have been toying with buying some from the 2018/19 vintages and there still seems to be a bit around.
Didn't 2019 UH clean up at the Sydney /national wine show and Sarah Crowe can't seem to do no wrong, according to at least one critic.

But yes they are a pass for me now, unless I come into a squillion...pity.

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I was almost always impressed with the YY wines from the 20th cent; bit patchier since then.
I tasted the 04s at the winery under the gimlet eye of Dr Carrodus himself; they were good too.
I think Oliver was right about the 07s being smoke-ruined; the 09 No 1 wasn't great either.
But the No 1s from 05 and 08 were very good.
I also tasted the 18 pinot earlier this year and thought it lovely.
But pricing is farcical - hence the availability of so many recent vintages I reckon.

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Graeme,
It seems that this tasting echoes the last visit that I had to CD there with some mates a few years ago. Incredibly underwhelming given the reputation. Tasted mainly 2017 wines, with a couple of older samples of Underhill and #1. Some good wines, but generally pretty average. Certainly not demonstrating value for money.
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Con and I ended up here this afternoon after a visit to the Wantirna Open Day. Sit down tasting with 8 wines for $50 each. Pours are reasonable, but the prices for the wines are way out of line with the quality. A few nice wines, including the 2021 Nr 1 and Light Red, but even allowing for the Cellar Door markup, these are poor buys. In particular, $275 for the plump and pleasant 2021 Carradus Pinot Noir is outstandingly bad QPR. Still, it’s not all doom and gloom - bought a few bottles of 2015 Sparkling Blanc de Noirs and a 2017 Semillon.
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lols yea, I had a taste of the Carrodus Pinot Noir, I think 2019, a while back. The rep told me it was similar to a high quality Premier Cru from Vosne Romanee. I was tempted to reply that I could definitely see the resemblance, as both were coloured red and came in a bottle.
Seriously, there are dozens of Yarra Valley $50 pinots that are as good as that, simply absurd pricing.
The $70 Applejack is twice as good at 1/4 the price.

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Outrageous prices on these wines has a fair bit to do with one of the owners, who I believe along with what will be a messy divorce, has also parted company with significant business partners. Interesting times ahead me thinks :wink: :wink:
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