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TN: Orlando Pre-releases

Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 10:31 am
by Anthony
Last night I was fortunate enough to attend a dinner my father organised, and we took the Orlando Chief Red Wine Maker Sam Kurtz out to dinner to our 'local' stumbling distance from my home. We were armed with the pre-releases of Orlando Centenary Hill 98, Jacaranda 98 (now out and available from Gav), St Hugo 01 and Steingarden 02 to look out. Here are my impressions of the wines.

02 Steingarden: this vineyards was planted due to a family holiday the Gramp family had in Mosel where they saw these Riesling vineyards plated on slatey soil high up on the Mosel River. When the Gramps arrived back in australia, they found a pach of dirt high up in the Eden valley and blasted a vineyard out of the slatey soil. Called Steingarden becuase the vineyard workers cursed working on this vineyard and labeled it 'Garden of Stone'. The 02 Steingarden is sourced 80% from this vineyard and another 20% from similar profile vineyards in the Eden Valley.

The 02 Steingarden was matched up against the 02 Framingham 'Dry Riesling from Marlborough and absolutely blew it away. A bit pongy when first opened up (due to sulphar in the wine?) this quickly blew off to reveal a stunning riesling that was minerally, tight and racy with lemon/lime characterists and sensational length. This wine will live for 20 plus years.

Next was the 01 St Hugo. All the wines were served blind and at first this wine threw me because it is not your normal St Hugo. So big in structure and fruit, to me this meant that it lost a bit of it's varietal characteristics. Aged 20 months in French Oak, the fruit had eaten the oak and even though it is a massive wine, the fruit-oak levels were not out of balance.

Sam Kurtz thinks the 01 is a dead ringer for the 98 and is nearly exactly the same stage as what the 98 was, at the same age. For longevity, hold the 99 and 00. This will be a great wine when young, but I think it will not be a long-term (15 plus years in the cellar) wine.

We then had the 98 Centenary and 98 Jacaranda together. For me, the Jacaranda was the better wine. The 98 Jacaranda is a benchmark Australian Cabernet and will be ranked as one of the great Aussie Cab's out of the 90's. It's balance was impeccable, the purity of fruit amazing and palate length superb. Almost faultless.

The 98 Centenary on the other hand was a bit disjointed and showing too much vanillian oak characteristics at the moment. Winemaker Sam Kurtz thinks this wine is just starting to settle down, and has come forward in leaps and bounds over the last 12 months. For me it needs another 12 months to let the fruit come through. Like the 01 St Hugo, I think it will eat the oak and be a very good wine.

I asked Sam if they would ever switch to French Oak and his answer was a flat no. With the reasoning that American Oak and the Barossa is a match made in heaven. Whilst I agree to a point, I think that heaps of wines from the Barossa are smothered by the American Oak.

We finished with the Show Rutherglen Tokay and by the end of it, I was full to the brim with food and wine!!

cheers
Anthony :)

Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 10:51 am
by Wizz
Thanks Anthony.
Do you know when the Steingarten and St Hugo are out?

Also, with the St Hugo, does not being a keeper mean drink within 10 years rather than keep for 15, or do you think an even shorter window?

cheers

Andrew

Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 11:04 am
by TORB
Ant,

I tried the 98 Centenary and found it very different to your bottle. (TN's will come soon but there are a few ahead of it. :oops: )

I found it to be well balanced and much more elegant and controlled that the 96.

Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 11:05 am
by Anthony
Hi Wizz,
Both wines are out later in the year.
I think the 01 will probably peak at around 10 years and then start to go downhill.

Sam Kurtz sees the 99 and 00 reaching a plateau after 10 years but then holding for at least another 10. So you could say the 01 is a 10 year wine, whereas the 99 and 00 are 15-20 year wines.

Cheers
Anthony

Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 12:59 pm
by Wizz
cheers,

AB

Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 2:43 pm
by Guest - Hector Banana
Antony,
Were you inspired by the TNs from Nicks on the Jacaranda 98? :lol:

Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 3:12 pm
by Anthony
Yeah was going to cut and paste and thought that maybe that is a bit to obvious. :lol:

Haven't been called Antony for a few years, you must be able to speak to the dead, like the American tv show host. What was his name? Pretty sure he knew that my cat used to meow my name at night 'antony, antony' :wink:

cheers
anthony

Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 9:46 pm
by ChrisH
Thanks for the notes Anthony - most illuminating.

I asked Sam if they would ever switch to French Oak and his answer was a flat no. With the reasoning that American Oak and the Barossa is a match made in heaven


Interestingly, Lehmann has moved away from American to French oak for the Stonewell because they thought American was too obvious in the wine, and French made a more polished total package.


regards
Chris

Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 8:37 am
by Anthony
ChrisH wrote:Thanks for the notes Anthony - most illuminating.

I asked Sam if they would ever switch to French Oak and his answer was a flat no. With the reasoning that American Oak and the Barossa is a match made in heaven


Interestingly, Lehmann has moved away from American to French oak for the Stonewell because they thought American was too obvious in the wine, and French made a more polished total package.


regards
Chris


I must admit I do prefer French Oak over American Oak even for Barossa Shiraz. :lol: But I think you still ave to be careful, one company that has stuffed it up completely is Eileen Hardy Shiraz.

cheers
anthony