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Decant or Decanter?

Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 11:43 pm
by Daryl Douglas
Perhaps hair-splitting, but wine is decanted when it's poured from the bottle into a decanter isn't it? Every time I see something like "I decantered the wine two hours before serving" in TNs, I think of Olympic equestrian events. I'd be too exhausted to drink it after two hours of trying to slow down that cantering bottle of wine. :shock: :wink:

daz

Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 12:02 am
by Gianna
Yes, hair splitting, but decanted it is........ enough horsing around. :wink:

Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 8:19 am
by Wizz
daz, my understanding is almost the same as yours, but the emphasis is different: decanting is the art of pouring, rather than being directly related to the vessel the wine is decanted into. From dictionary.com :

# To pour off (wine, for example) without disturbing the sediment.
# To pour (a liquid) from one container into another

I guess like a lot of things, its used fairly loosely day to day. Double decant is out of the bottle and back in again, a "Barossa Decant" is to pour the wine into another container, shake it to buggery, and then pour it back :-)

cheers

Andrew

Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 9:35 am
by Gavin Trott
Wizz wrote: "Barossa Decant" is to pour the wine into another container, shake it to buggery, and then pour it back :-)

cheers

Andrew


Wizz

A wine maker I knew quite well had his own 'Barossa Decant'.

Open the bottle, swig the first mouthful, put your thumb over the top, shake to buggery, then pour.

Worked a treat!

Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 9:38 am
by DJ
Gee you'll be worrying about spelling next :shock:

We could easily turn this thread into what misspellings or poor word use drive us mad. The one I don't get is "Reisling" how often did your second class teacher say "i after e except after c".

Don't get me started on how words related to wine are translated in the Bible - go here instead
http://setis.library.usyd.edu.au/adt/pu ... index.html :? :D

David

Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 10:33 am
by GraemeG
DJ wrote:

We could easily turn this thread into what misspellings or poor word use drive us mad. The one I don't get is "Reisling" how often did your second class teacher say "i after e except after c".



Actually, as I remember, it was "i before e except after c, when the sound is 'eee'. So 'believe', but 'receive'.

Although, if Riesling is a german word, then perhaps it falls outside the rules - certainly those for English...

cheers,
Graeme

Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 10:43 am
by DJ
GraemeG wrote:
Actually, as I remember, it was "i before e except after c, when the sound is 'eee'. So 'believe', but 'receive'.




Clearly my brain has seized that's what I was trying to write
- Give up trying to be clever :(

Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 2:38 pm
by simm
Daz,
Just because you opened it all up, maybe it has something to do with "decanted into another vessel" as opposed to "decantered for two hours" :wink:

And yes German pronunciations often happen the other way round but I would have to ask my good german friend if this was a rule...

Hell, I don't know,

Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 3:35 pm
by Jakob
DJ wrote:Gee you'll be worrying about spelling next :shock:

"How about some grammar, kids?" :D

Image

Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 4:04 pm
by DaveL
Damn I love Bob the Angry Flower.

We used to have that very one up on our fridge.

Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 4:30 pm
by GraemeG
simm wrote:

And yes German pronunciations often happen the other way round but I would have to ask my good german friend if this was a rule...



I was talking about spelling rather than pronunciation, but German is easy (if I remember high school correctly). It's always the last letter of the two which indicates the sound. So 'riesling' is ree-sling because the spelling is i e, where as the eastern blue porcelin town of 'Meissen' is my-ssen spelt e i.

(This helps clarify the way to say 'Riedel' as well, although it truly rhymes with 'needle' rather than being pronounced 'ree-del').

Sorry. Lesson over!

cheers,
Graeme

Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 10:13 pm
by Daryl Douglas
Gianna wrote:Yes, hair splitting, but decanted it is........ enough horsing around. :wink:


Ya got me - chuckling n laughing!

Cheers