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Decant or Decanter?
Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 11:43 pm
by Daryl Douglas
Perhaps hair-splitting, but wine is
decanted when it's poured from the bottle
into a decanter isn't it? Every time I see something like "I
decantered the wine two hours before serving" in TNs, I think of Olympic equestrian events. I'd be too exhausted to drink it after two hours of trying to slow down that cantering bottle of wine.
daz
Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 12:02 am
by Gianna
Yes, hair splitting, but decanted it is........ enough horsing around.
Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 8:19 am
by Wizz
daz, my understanding is almost the same as yours, but the emphasis is different: decanting is the art of pouring, rather than being directly related to the vessel the wine is decanted into. From dictionary.com :
# To pour off (wine, for example) without disturbing the sediment.
# To pour (a liquid) from one container into another
I guess like a lot of things, its used fairly loosely day to day. Double decant is out of the bottle and back in again, a "Barossa Decant" is to pour the wine into another container, shake it to buggery, and then pour it back
cheers
Andrew
Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 9:35 am
by Gavin Trott
Wizz wrote: "Barossa Decant" is to pour the wine into another container, shake it to buggery, and then pour it back
cheers
Andrew
Wizz
A wine maker I knew quite well had his own 'Barossa Decant'.
Open the bottle, swig the first mouthful, put your thumb over the top, shake to buggery, then pour.
Worked a treat!
Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 9:38 am
by DJ
Gee you'll be worrying about spelling next
We could easily turn this thread into what misspellings or poor word use drive us mad. The one I don't get is "Reisling" how often did your second class teacher say "i after e except after c".
Don't get me started on how words related to wine are translated in the Bible - go here instead
http://setis.library.usyd.edu.au/adt/pu ... index.html
David
Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 10:33 am
by GraemeG
DJ wrote:
We could easily turn this thread into what misspellings or poor word use drive us mad. The one I don't get is "Reisling" how often did your second class teacher say "i after e except after c".
Actually, as I remember, it was "i
before e except after c, when the sound is 'eee'. So 'believe', but 'receive'.
Although, if Riesling is a german word, then perhaps it falls outside the rules - certainly those for English...
cheers,
Graeme
Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 10:43 am
by DJ
GraemeG wrote:
Actually, as I remember, it was "i before e except after c, when the sound is 'eee'. So 'believe', but 'receive'.
Clearly my brain has seized that's what I was trying to write
- Give up trying to be clever
Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 2:38 pm
by simm
Daz,
Just because you opened it all up, maybe it has something to do with "decanted into another vessel" as opposed to "decantered for two hours"
And yes German pronunciations often happen the other way round but I would have to ask my good german friend if this was a rule...
Hell, I don't know,
Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 3:35 pm
by Jakob
DJ wrote:Gee you'll be worrying about spelling next
"How about some grammar, kids?"
Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 4:04 pm
by DaveL
Damn I love Bob the Angry Flower.
We used to have that very one up on our fridge.
Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 4:30 pm
by GraemeG
simm wrote:
And yes German pronunciations often happen the other way round but I would have to ask my good german friend if this was a rule...
I was talking about spelling rather than pronunciation, but German is easy (if I remember high school correctly). It's always the last letter of the two which indicates the sound. So 'riesling' is
ree-sling because the spelling is
i e, where as the eastern blue porcelin town of 'Meissen' is
my-ssen spelt
e i.
(This helps clarify the way to say 'Riedel' as well, although it truly rhymes with 'needle' rather than being pronounced 'ree-del').
Sorry. Lesson over!
cheers,
Graeme
Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 10:13 pm
by Daryl Douglas
Gianna wrote:Yes, hair splitting, but decanted it is........ enough horsing around.
Ya got me - chuckling n laughing!
Cheers