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Melbourne Offline / Fri 24 Aug / 10yo+ Cabernet

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:46 pm
by mjs
n4sir is over in Melbourne later this month, ostensibly for footy :lol: :lol: , so we thought we'd organise an offline

Theme: Cabernet or Cabernet dominant 10+yo
Date: Friday 24th August
Time: 6.30pm
Venue: Bergerac, 555 Lonsdale St Melbourne
Methodology: Everyone brings a reasonable quality on-theme wine, cabernet or cabernet dominant, ten years or more old. We all let Ozzie W know the wine and Ozzie will compile and publish the list of wines prior (say by 20th Aug) and everyone provides their ranking of the wines pre-tasting. Wines are then tasted double blind with the aim of ranking then overall as tasted and identifying each wine if possible. Then all are revealed and we can compare with prior predictions.
We did this with a different category of wine a couple of years ago at Scopri and again at Choi's recently, its a bit of fun. In the last tasting of seven wines at Choi's, the most anyone got right was three, so it's a fun test.

Please put your hand up if you want to join us, we will limit numbers to nine. Wines are now finalised! Should be a Cabernet extravaganza!

cheers
mjs

Attendees:
1. ChrisH
2. ConJ
3. Ozzie W
4. n4sir
5. mjs
6. n4sir+1 (Nick)
7. n4sir+2 (Leah)
8. mychurch
9. Michael McNally

Reserves:
1. ?
2. ?

The lineup of wines:

1980 Moss Wood Cabernet (ConJ)
1998 Reynell Cabernet (n4sir)
1989 Peter Lehmann Stoddart Trophy Cabernet Malbec Merlot Shiraz (n4sir)
1978 Ch Leoville Poyferre (Mychurch)
1996 Penfolds Block42 Cabernet (mjs)
1996 Moss Wood (ChrisH)
1990 Ch Leoville Poyferre (Ozzie W)
2001 Wirra Wirra Angelus (Michael)
2001 Lindemans St George (Michael)
1986 Ch Tahbilk Bin 73 (ConJ)
2006 Reschke Bos Coonawarra Cabernet (n4sir+2)

Re: Melbourne Offline / Fri 24 Aug / 10yo+ Cabernet

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:09 pm
by n4sir
Thank you for organising this guys!

I may have a +1 (or even +2), will let you know ASAP.

Re: Melbourne Offline / Fri 24 Aug / 10yo+ Cabernet

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:47 am
by n4sir
n4sir wrote:Thank you for organising this guys!

I may have a +1 (or even +2), will let you know ASAP.
I have +2 guests (Nick & Leah) at this stage, and maybe another 1 or two additions.

Cheers,
Ian

Re: Melbourne Offline / Fri 24 Aug / 10yo+ Cabernet

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:16 am
by mjs
Are we going to see some usual suspects? .... Mt Mary, Moss Wood, JR, Odyssey, Bin707, Shadrach, Tally, some cab dominant blends perhaps, Yarra Yering, Bdx ... bring it on :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Re: Melbourne Offline / Fri 24 Aug / 10yo+ Cabernet

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:33 am
by Ozzie W
mjs wrote:Are we going to see some usual suspects? .... Mt Mary, Moss Wood, JR, Odyssey, Bin707, Shadrach, Tally, some cab dominant blends perhaps, Yarra Yering, Bdx ... bring it on :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Indeed. Con is first cab off the rank with a 1980 Moss Wood. :D

Re: Melbourne Offline / Fri 24 Aug / 10yo+ Cabernet

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:22 pm
by n4sir
My two planned bottles are the 1998 Reynell Cabernet Sauvignon & 1989 Peter Lehmann Stodart Trophy Cabernet Malbec Merlot Shiraz.

Re: Melbourne Offline / Fri 24 Aug / 10yo+ Cabernet

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:44 pm
by mychurch
Does it have to be from Auz ? I have a 78 Bdx I can bring along. I think it’s Loeville Poyferre. It’s in good nick - it’s a present from a friend and together we have drunk quite a bit of his 78 stash (and mine, which I finished 10 years or so ago)

Re: Melbourne Offline / Fri 24 Aug / 10yo+ Cabernet

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:23 pm
by Ozzie W
mychurch wrote:Does it have to be from Auz ? I have a 78 Bdx I can bring along. I think it’s Loeville Poyferre. It’s in good nick - it’s a present from a friend and together we have drunk quite a bit of his 78 stash (and mine, which I finished 10 years or so ago)
Old World Cabernet is fine. Makes it all the more interesting when tasting blind.

Re: Melbourne Offline / Fri 24 Aug / 10yo+ Cabernet

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 5:52 pm
by mychurch
Great, then please add me to the list.

I'll confirm tonight the actual wine and the possible back-up.

Cameron

Re: Melbourne Offline / Fri 24 Aug / 10yo+ Cabernet

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:10 pm
by Michael McNally
I am in Melbourne and there for all money!

Cheers

Michael

Re: Melbourne Offline / Fri 24 Aug / 10yo+ Cabernet

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:02 pm
by mjs
mychurch wrote:Great, then please add me to the list.

I'll confirm tonight the actual wine and the possible back-up.

Cameron
So Cameron, not actually in Rotterdam? :lol: :mrgreen: :lol:
Welcome aboard
Cheers, Malcolm

Re: Melbourne Offline / Fri 24 Aug / 10yo+ Cabernet

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:04 pm
by mjs
Ok, looks like we are at our limit of nine. If anyone else is interested, please post on this thread and you can go on the “reserve” list. A spot might open up.

Re: Melbourne Offline / Fri 24 Aug / 10yo+ Cabernet

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:43 pm
by mychurch
Cameron[/quote]
So Cameron, not actually in Rotterdam? :lol: :mrgreen: :lol:
Welcome aboard
Cheers, Malcolm[/quote]

No, but the heart is....looking forward to meeting everyone.

I didn’t move the wine collection over, but trips back result in the odd interesting bottle. Backup up will be 06 Le Grand Clos from Chateau de Villeneuve.

Re: Melbourne Offline / Fri 24 Aug / 10yo+ Cabernet

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:02 pm
by mjs
Ian/Cameron/Michael,
Can you pm me your email, there’s a bit of organisation to do beforehand and it’s easier to do via email, rather than in the thread.
Cheers, Malcolm

Re: Melbourne Offline / Fri 24 Aug / 10yo+ Cabernet

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:44 pm
by Michael McNally
mjs wrote:Ian/Cameron/Michael,
Can you pm me your email, there’s a bit of organisation to do beforehand and it’s easier to do via email, rather than in the thread.
Cheers, Malcolm
How will we ever get to the 5 pages of the Sydney Offlines if we go off piste? :shock: :D

Cheers Macolm

Michael

Re: Melbourne Offline / Fri 24 Aug / 10yo+ Cabernet

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:47 pm
by mjs
Michael McNally wrote:
mjs wrote:Ian/Cameron/Michael,
Can you pm me your email, there’s a bit of organisation to do beforehand and it’s easier to do via email, rather than in the thread.
Cheers, Malcolm
How will we ever get to the 5 pages of the Sydney Offlines if we go off piste? :shock: :D

Cheers Macolm

Michael
We don’t need to compete with Sydney :lol: :lol:

Re: Melbourne Offline / Fri 24 Aug / 10yo+ Cabernet

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:17 am
by Rossco
mjs wrote: Wines so far:

1980 Moss Wood Cabernet (ConJ)
1998 Reynell Cabernet (n4sir)
1989 Peter Lehmann Stoddart Trophy Cabernet Malbec Merlot Shiraz (n4sir)
1978 Ch Leoville Poyferre (Mychurch)
1996 Penfolds Block42 Cabernet (mjs)
1996 Moss Wood (ChrisH)

WOW what a lineup!

96 Block 42 is one of my bucket list wines... you guys are going to have a great time. Im very sorry I cant make it

Re: Melbourne Offline / Fri 24 Aug / 10yo+ Cabernet

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:08 am
by mychurch
Block 42 is the bane of my wine life. My first stash (8 bottles) were sold due to divorce. I managed to buy 2 of them back a few years later with the intention of drinking them at my 50th, but when the eventual day came, I had a Rum tasting instead....they were due to be drunk at my goodbye dinner before moving here, but the boys had plenty of red wine for me and so they got gezumped ...looking forward to finally trying it

Re: Melbourne Offline / Fri 24 Aug / 10yo+ Cabernet

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:41 pm
by mjs
I’ve been fortunate enough to have had the Block42 on several occasions, one memorably being a magnum at my 60th a while ago (along with a whole lot of other stuff). It was outstanding, although still very youthful and it was close to vinfanticide at 18 yrs of age!! Will be good to get another look at it in a line-up that’s shaping up extremely well.

Re: Melbourne Offline / Fri 24 Aug / 10yo+ Cabernet

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:13 pm
by mjs
Michael, thanks, having a bet each way with a McL V and Coonawarra Cab. Just not sure which one is the back-up :D :D

Re: Melbourne Offline / Fri 24 Aug / 10yo+ Cabernet

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:26 am
by Michael McNally
mjs wrote:Michael, thanks, having a bet each way with a McL V and Coonawarra Cab. Just not sure which one is the back-up :D :D
No worries Malcolm.

With Con's indulgence I might bring along a 1982 Vintage Port in case both are stuffed.......

Cheers

Michael

Re: Melbourne Offline / Fri 24 Aug / 10yo+ Cabernet

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:57 pm
by mjs
Michael McNally wrote:
mjs wrote:Michael, thanks, having a bet each way with a McL V and Coonawarra Cab. Just not sure which one is the back-up :D :D
No worries Malcolm.

With Con's indulgence I might bring along a 1982 Vintage Port in case both are stuffed.......

Cheers

Michael
Michael, I am sure that Con won't mind :D :D

n4sir, I still need your other wine for your +2

cheers, Malcolm

Re: Melbourne Offline / Fri 24 Aug / 10yo+ Cabernet

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 2:24 pm
by Con J
No problem Michael it sounds good.

Don’t know if it matters, the 1980 Moss Wood is the Reserve and my back up will be the 1994 Cullen Reserve.

If everyone doesn’t mind I would also like to put on a 1986 Tahbilk Bin 73 Cabernet as an extra that I picked up at auction a couple of nights ago.

It’s shaping up to be a great night, see you all there.

Cheers Con.

Re: Melbourne Offline / Fri 24 Aug / 10yo+ Cabernet

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 4:52 pm
by Ozzie W
Con J wrote:No problem Michael it sounds good.

Don’t know if it matters, the 1980 Moss Wood is the Reserve and my back up will be the 1994 Cullen Reserve.
No need to include backup bottles in the wine rankings. Hopefully we don't need to use them.
Con J wrote:If everyone doesn’t mind I would also like to put on a 1986 Tahbilk Bin 73 Cabernet as an extra that I picked up at auction a couple of nights ago.
That'd be great, Con. I haven't had an old Tahbilk for a very long time and I'd love to try one again. We'll include any extras in the wine rankings.

Re: Melbourne Offline / Fri 24 Aug / 10yo+ Cabernet

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:40 am
by mjs
Very impressive list, should be a great night!

Re: Melbourne Offline / Fri 24 Aug / 10yo+ Cabernet

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:07 pm
by mjs
Lineup of wines now finalised, should be a great night :D :D

Re: Melbourne Offline / Fri 24 Aug / 10yo+ Cabernet

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:57 am
by Ozzie W
The pre-dinner ranking results are in!

It's a very close race between the '96 Moss Wood, '90 Chateau Leoville and the '96 Penfolds Block 42 for the best wine.

[img]https://s15.postimg.cc/sihwb4ljf/Cabernet_Rankings.png[/img]

The chart above show the average ranking for each wine. Weights are applied in reverse to make the chart easier to understand (bigger=better).

Re: Melbourne Offline / Fri 24 Aug / 10yo+ Cabernet

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 11:51 pm
by mychurch
So yet again my Block 42 curse kicks in...mjs stuck his hand in his cellar and pulled out a 1980 Bin 80a by mistake. Lovely wine, but not the best of the night. I’ll let Ozzie W post the scores, but the revalation of the night for me was the 1980 Miss Wood, that defied its age. Joint top for me, along with the 96,the 90 Poyferre and the 98 Reynell.

Re: Melbourne Offline / Fri 24 Aug / 10yo+ Cabernet

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 1:15 am
by Ozzie W
That was a lot of fun! Thanks to everyone for the great wines and company. Some surprises from a personal perspective in terms of the wines I liked most. The 1998 Reynell was my unexpected WOTN. I will consolidate all the post-dinner rankings tomorrow and post the results here.

Bottle photos here:

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1976 Tahbilk was corked :x

Re: Melbourne Offline / Fri 24 Aug / 10yo+ Cabernet

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 11:25 am
by mjs
Ozzie, thanks for the photos.

Yes, a great night. It was fun when towards the end of the tasting, you think you've tasted three bottles of 96 Moss Wood and haven't tasted a couple of the others at all! I couldn't really split the 90 Ch Leoville Poyferre and the 98 Ch Reynell for my WOTN. Although, in reality, all of the wines were good to great and had something to offer, apart from the unfortunately corked Ch Tahbilk. You would be happy drinking any of them I think

Good to see some new faces and some old returnees from interstate! Again, apologies for my stuff up with the 80A in lieu of the Block42, the 80A was in very good nick though and almost made up for it.