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Just wondering what other forumites have put away for the kiddies?

Any stories and or reasons as to why you have a particular wine or wines held back for future celebrations?
Clearly the wine in question needs to have fairly serious ageing potential.
18-21 years +

I have some 2012 Wendourees which I'm hoping will go the distance for my first born.
AS for the second (2016) I've glanced at my CT producer listing of that year and nothing's really jumping out at me
so I thought I better start making some moves in that area.

My first (and so far only) was born in 2017, so many wines that are designed to keep for a couple of decades aren't released yet.

Initial reports suggest that 2017 Bordeaux is good enough to buy, but maybe not good enough to hoard, so I'll buy maybe a case of red, and a case of sauternes. Barolo is my other main passion, so I'll probably pick up a case or two of this when it's released in a few years, but I always think Nebbiolo is a hard grape to love if you're not into wine, so may end up drinking this myself. Probably pick up a few other bits & pieces over the next few years, depending on where the vintages are best.

Good topic this Scotty V...
Lads were born in 94 and 97...first born just missed the crap wet 95 vintage by a few days.

I went fairly berserk with both of them. They have about 3 dozen different labels in single and magnum format including all the usual suspects bar (Grange and HoG...silly silly prices).
When you are down to a partner who may not be in full time work, particularly for the first born's vintage release, by the time the second one arrives, economics kick in.
I agree very much with Asajoseph...you can get caught up with the occasion, but you can also get caught up with the excess and who are you really drinking these wines for...them or more likely You

So plenty of YV, Coonawarra and MR cab
Plenty of MV, Barossa, Clare, Central Victoria and some Hunter Shiraz

Even a few rizzas
Cheers
Craig

I was thinking maybe sweet wines would work well - both in ability to survive the time needed for your kids to enjoy them, and also in approachability for people who don't necessarily otherwise enjoy or appreciate wine.

And they're generally cheaper too.

I've put away three Henschke Keyneton Euphonium's, Rockford Basket Press Shiraz (and maybe Wynn's Black Label Cab Sauv?) for our eldest (2013) and I'll do the same for the other two when I can. Budget and storage limit what we've chosen and we really like them but we haven't set aside any particular years for consumption, maybe finishing each schooling era. I'd love one HoG each but that's out of the question and there's plenty of other wine that we could buy for that price. But they're not HoG... so I've been wondering what else I might find and create a case each.

Too many really (and went a bit nuts for the firstborn).

2004: Charles Melton Nine Popes (6L); Turkey Flat Shiraz (1.5L); Rockford BP (1.5L); Penfolds St Henri (1.5L); Charles Melton Barossa Shiraz (1.5L); Petaluma Riesling (1.5L); Tahbilk Marsanne (1.5L)
2007: Turkey Flat Shiraz (3L); Torbreck Steading (3L); Penfolds Bin 389 (1.5L); Kalleske Shiraz (1.5L); Petaluma Riesling (1.5L)
2010: Redman Cabernet (6L); Rockford Basket Press (1.5L); Petaluma Riesling (1.5L); Penfolds Bin 28 (1.5L)

Lots of other single bottle "birthday wines" earmarked too.

-- George Krashos

Thought I only had a few bottles for the lass


Just had a peek-

Wine Type Vintage Name Variety Quantity Value Begin / End Score More...

White
2007 Château de Beaucastel Châteauneuf-du-Pape Blanc Cuvée Roussanne Vieilles Vignes more 6 (750ml)$200 2012-2028 93.8 points 100% like it (11 votes)
White
2007 Bonneau du Martray Corton-Charlemagne Corton-Charlemagne Grand Cru Chardonnay 12 (750ml)$170 2014-2024 92.8 points SJ 100% like it (37 votes)
Red
2007 Frédéric & Daniel Brunier Châteauneuf-du-Pape Domaine La Roquète Red Rhone Blend 12 (750ml)$35 2012-2019 90.5 points 94% like it (35 votes)
White - Sweet/Dessert
2007 Reichsrat Von Buhl Forster Stift Rieslaner Beerenauslese Pfalz 6 (750ml)$70
Red
2007 M. Chapoutier Châteauneuf-du-Pape Barbe Rac Grenache 1 (750ml)$60 2014-2032 94.8 points 100% like it (9 votes)
Red
2007 Domaine de la Charbonnière Châteauneuf-du-Pape Cuvée Mourre des Perdrix Red Rhone Blend 6 (750ml)$35 2012-2021 94.3 points 100% like it (1 vote)
Red
2007 Giacomo Conterno Barolo Cascina Francia Nebbiolo 2 (750ml)$150 2018-2035 93.8 points 100% like it (16 votes)
Red
2007 Paolo Conterno Barolo Riserva Ginestra Nebbiolo 14 (750ml)$95 2016-2033 93.1 points 100% like it (7 votes)
White - Off-dry
2007 Dönnhoff Niederhäuser Hermannshöhle Riesling Auslese Goldkapsel Nahe 9 (375ml)$34 2013-2032 93.3 points 100% like it (2 votes)
White - Off-dry
2007 Dönnhoff Oberhäuser Brücke Riesling Auslese Goldkapsel Nahe 10 (375ml)$28 2014-2032 92.1 points WD(18.5-19+) 75% like it (4 votes)
White - Off-dry
2007 Dönnhoff Schloßböckelheimer Felsenberg Riesling Auslese Goldkapsel Nahe 1 (375ml)$30
4 (750ml)$30 2015-2035 91.9 points
White
2007 Jean-Philippe Fichet Puligny-Montrachet 1er Cru Les Referts Chardonnay 3 (750ml)$70 89 points 100% like it (1 vote)
White
2007 Jean Noel Gagnard Bâtard-Montrachet Bâtard-Montrachet Grand Cru Chardonnay 6 (750ml)$200 2013-2022 93.3 points 100% like it (2 votes)
Red
2007 Gaja Langhe Nebbiolo Conteisa Langhe DOC 6 (750ml)$300 2017-2029 94.3 points 100% like it (4 votes)
Red
2007 Gaja Langhe Nebbiolo Sperss Langhe DOC 6 (750ml)$300 2021-2041 94.3 points 100% like it (6 votes)
Red
2007 Bruno Giacosa Barbaresco Riserva Asili Nebbiolo 12 (750ml)$400 2018-2037 94.4 points 100% like it (8 votes)
Red
2007 Bruno Giacosa Barolo Riserva Le Rocche Del Falletto Nebbiolo 6 (750ml)$500 2020-2040 95.5 points 100% like it (4 votes)
White
2007 Franz Hirtzberger Riesling Smaragd Singerriedel Wachau 6 (750ml)$70 2012-2022 94.3 points 100% like it (8 votes)
White - Sweet/Dessert
2007 Loersch Trittenheimer Apotheke Riesling Trockenbeerenauslese Mosel Saar Ruwer 1 (375ml)$100 94 points MFW93+
White - Off-dry
2007 Dr. Loosen Ürziger Würzgarten Riesling Auslese Mosel Saar Ruwer 1 (375ml)$35 2017-2030 90 points WD(17-17.5+), MFW93 100% like it (2 votes)
Red
2007 Bartolo Mascarello Barolo Nebbiolo 6 (750ml)$150 2017-2034 92.3 points SJ 100% like it (17 votes)
Red
2007 Giuseppe E Figlio Mascarello Barolo Monprivato Nebbiolo 8 (750ml)$100 2018-2033 92.5 points 95% like it (20 votes)
Red
2007 Moccagatta Barbaresco Bric Balin Nebbiolo 3 (750ml)$70

Red
2007 Rockford Shiraz Basket Press Barossa Valley 6 (750ml)$85 2012-2020 92.2 points 100% like it (14 votes)
White - Sparkling
2007 Louis Roederer Champagne Cristal Brut Champagne Blend 6 (750ml)$200 2017-2032 93.2 points 97% like it (33 votes)
Red
2007 Luciano Sandrone Nebbiolo d'Alba Valmaggiore 6 (750ml)$40 2011-2016 90.4 points 100% like it (1 vote)
White
2007 Tahbilk Marsanne Nagambie Lakes 6 (750ml)$9 2012-2017 87.9 points 100% like it (5 votes)
White - Off-dry
2007 Wwe. Dr. H. Thanisch (Müller-Burggraef) Bernkasteler Lay Riesling Auslese Mosel Saar Ruwer 1 (375ml)$80
White
2007 Trimbach Riesling Clos Ste. Hune Alsace 6 (750ml)$250 2018-2031 93.4 points MFW92+ 95% like it
1 (1.5L)$120 2015-2024 91.8 points 95% like it (19 votes)
Collection: 190 bottles in 30 wines / Value: $26,251

George Krashos wrote:Too many really (and went a bit nuts for the firstborn).

2004: Charles Melton Nine Popes (6L); Turkey Flat Shiraz (1.5L); Rockford BP (1.5L); Penfolds St Henri (1.5L); Charles Melton Barossa Shiraz (1.5L); Petaluma Riesling (1.5L); Tahbilk Marsanne (1.5L)
2007: Turkey Flat Shiraz (3L); Torbreck Steading (3L); Penfolds Bin 389 (1.5L); Kalleske Shiraz (1.5L); Petaluma Riesling (1.5L)
2010: Redman Cabernet (6L); Rockford Basket Press (1.5L); Petaluma Riesling (1.5L); Penfolds Bin 28 (1.5L)

Lots of other single bottle "birthday wines" earmarked too.

-- George Krashos

I had a 1977 Redman cabernet from a 6lt recently. Shaun kalleske's 40th. It was amazing..
Hang onto that bad boy

1st born 2011, so WA and Hunter Valley for her. Woodlands, leeuwin, Tyrrells, lakes folly
2nd born 2014, haven’t really started on that yet as I like to buy excess stock at auction and not a lot from that vintage hitting the market yet.

2010 St Henri
Haven’t bothered with 08 so just stuck with the 10s!

First Son 2009, bought a fair bit of Hunter and Margaret River, little BDX.

Second Son 2012, unfortunately Hunter a write off. Good most everywhere else though - Some MR, Yarra, some Piedmont, some Marius and a bit of other SA.

Third Son 2015, unfortunately Hunter a write off. Again good a lot of places. I’ll probably buy a little BDX and as much Piedmont as I can afford (plus a little more). I need to get some German Riesling too. Actually I’d like to backfill Riesling for each of the boys’ years.

I like the idea of birth vintages, of my own kids, and gifts for close friends. Maybe the kids will get some when they’re older but it’s mainly for the parents, a nice way to mark the passing of time.

I bought 21 bottles of Clonakilla shiraz - drinking 1 every year

For the 21st there’s also a magnum of Clonakilla SV

Bobthebuilder wrote:1st born 2011, so WA and Hunter Valley for her. Woodlands, leeuwin, Tyrrells, lakes folly
2nd born 2014, haven’t really started on that yet as I like to buy excess stock at auction and not a lot from that vintage hitting the market yet.

I wouldn’t hold out too much hope for excess 2014 Hunter stock mate.

2014 Graveyard or hunter in general seems to be where it’s at (or more precisely, was). Many (especially Tyrrels) sold through cellar door clubs and people are clutching onto their 2014 graveyards and I’m not expecting to see them hit the 2ndary market, so I picked up a couple outright

Not holding out much hope for the remaining hunter 14s hitting the market either but I missed the 2014 hunter boat (having a baby/toddler will do that to you - money becomes tight and lack of sleep means buying wine is one of the last things on your mind!) so I’m hoping that a few pop up eventually in time too

shauno wrote:I bought 21 bottles of Clonakilla shiraz - drinking 1 every year

For the 21st there’s also a magnum of Clonakilla SV

Nice..
Maybe il have a child. There wont be a debate over the purchase

Yes, been down this path for quite some time now. I think this is a lot more fun for the parent / wine buyer nut than the child in question.

1st son born 1996: Ch. Yquem, Ch. Latour, Ch Lafite Rothschild, Ch. Mouton Rothschild, Ch. Leoville Poyferre, Grange, Wendouree (all 5 reds), Bin 389, Mount Mary Quintet, YY Dry Red No. 1, Rockford BP, Best's Thomson Shiraz

2nd son born 1999: Ch. Yquem, Ch. Latour, Chave Hermitage, Guigal Ch. d'Ampuis, Delas Hermitage Bressards, Comte Armand Clos des Epeneaux (magnum) Giacosa Rocche Di Falletto, Kesseler Rudesheimer Berg Roseneck TBA, Grange, Wendouree (all 5 reds), YY Dry Red No. 1, Rockford BP, Best's FWT Shiraz, Dalwhinnie Shiraz

The selection of wine listed can tell you how much my wine buying habits evolved between son #1 and son #2!

Almost no burgundies for them as I am drinking them all myself

Brodie

A bottle of 92 and 95 Grange. Last Grange bought.

Carl

ooops

wrong spot

Still buying but having now seen what difference there is between my daughter and my son..... better start buying
some 2014's as there will be hell to pay in 18+ years!

3 x 2012 Wirra Wirra RSW Shiraz
6 x 2012 Gibson Reserve Shiraz
6 x 2012 Grant Burge Filsell Shiraz
12 x 2012 Wynns Coonawara Black Label Cab Sav
12 x 2012 Lindemans St George Cab Sav
3 x 2012 Wynns Coonawars V & A Lane Cab/Shiraz
6 x 2012 Majella Cab Sav
6 x 2012 The Story Henty Shiraz
3 x 2012 Penley Reserve Cab Sav
6 x 2012 Yalumba Signature Cab/Shiraz
6 x 2012 John Duval Entity Shiraz
6 x 2012 Rockford Rifle Range Cab Sav
3 x 2012 Sami Odi Hoffman Dalwitz Shiraz
6 x 2012 Dutschke St Jakobi Shiraz
2 x 2012 Yalumba Signature Cab/Shiraz Magnum
2 x 2012 Tahbilk Shiraz Magnum
2 x 2012 Petaluma Hanlin Hill Riesling Magnum

3 x 2014 Sami Odi Hoffman Dalwitz Shiraz
2 x 2014 Clos Clare Watervale Riesling Magnum

odyssey wrote:

Bobthebuilder wrote:1st born 2011, so WA and Hunter Valley for her. Woodlands, leeuwin, Tyrrells, lakes folly
2nd born 2014, haven’t really started on that yet as I like to buy excess stock at auction and not a lot from that vintage hitting the market yet.

I wouldn’t hold out too much hope for excess 2014 Hunter stock mate.

2014 Graveyard or hunter in general seems to be where it’s at (or more precisely, was). Many (especially Tyrrels) sold through cellar door clubs and people are clutching onto their 2014 graveyards and I’m not expecting to see them hit the 2ndary market, so I picked up a couple outright

Not holding out much hope for the remaining hunter 14s hitting the market either but I missed the 2014 hunter boat (having a baby/toddler will do that to you - money becomes tight and lack of sleep means buying wine is one of the last things on your mind!) so I’m hoping that a few pop up eventually in time too

There was a lot of Brokenwood HV Shiraz at auction. A spectacular wine for the price.

Halliday:
"a bare minimum of 30 years [wine]"

Campbell Mattinson:
"It’s built for the future."

Brokenwood Website:
"The Shiraz grapes are source solely from the Graveyard Vineyard"

Don't think I fathered a child that year Probably worth the RRP if you can still get it.

Have some '93 Grange and '93 707 for my son, but he's showing little interest in reds yet. His "inheritance" is looking dodgy

Apart from children, what about moi?

Have a '54 Wynns Cabernet (not BL then) and a '54 Hardy's Reserve Bin Show Tawny

mjs wrote:but he's showing little interest in reds yet. His "inheritance" is looking dodgy

That's a cheap Riverina wine never likely to go the distance

FWIW I've always thought ageworthy dessert wines ought to be the safe bet for 18th / 21st birthday. Maybe mags of Spatlese / Auslese riesling if you plan a party.

2018 will be my little one's birth year. Interested to see how things end up with the European vintage.

2007 and 2009 for me. A bit of a mixed bag which I add to from time to time.

2007 Voyager Estate Cabernet Sauvignon Merlot
2007 Seppelt Shiraz Show Sparkling Great Western
2007 Cullen Wines Diana Madeline
2007 Cerbaiola (Salvioni) Brunello di Montalcino
2007 Domenico Clerico Barolo Pajana
2007 Il Poggione (Proprietá Franceschi) Brunello di Montalcino Riserva Vigna Paganelli
2007 Fonseca Porto Vintage

2009 Best's Great Western Shiraz Bin No 0
2009 Henschke Shiraz Mount Edelstone
2009 La Pousse d'Or Volnay 1er Cru Clos d'Audignac
2009 Bouchard Père et Fils Corton-Le Corton
2009 Pian dell'Orino Brunello di Montalcino
2009 Fonseca Porto Vintage

I'm also thinking of adding some for the long haul. Had Henschke not gone stupid on the Mt Edelstone pricing I'd have gone one for their 21st's so I'm thinking maybe a St Henri and a magnum of Rockford BPS.

For my oldest lad we had '94 Mt Edelstone and John Riddoch which were both amazing on his 21st.

For the youngest I've bought magnums of '09 Charles Melton Voice of Angels Shiraz, Petaluma Hanlin Hill Riesling, John Duval Entity x 2 and Plexus x 2, Torbreck Steading, Gomersal Shiraz x 3, Kalleske Greenock Shiraz, Turkey Flat Shiraz x 2, Rockford Basket Press x 3 and many others in 750ml format. I went a little berserk to be honest, so we have a couple of bottles on his every Birthday from '09. I am saving a few special ones such as Clonakilla SV, Tyrrells 4 Acres and Old Paddock, Cape Mentelle Cabernet, Grosset Polish Hill, Noon Reserve Shiraz and the d'Arenburg Vineyard series for his 21st as well. Hopefully they all go the distance.

Cheers
Ian

mjs wrote:Have some '93 Grange and '93 707 for my son, but he's showing little interest in reds yet. His "inheritance" is looking dodgy :lol

Unfortunately son born 95 has really developed a taste for reds. Really dumb move introducing him to them so early. One bottle is not enough for 3 people which is a pain now so we are forced to open a 2nd. A bit like my parents forever regretting introducing me to oysters at an early age.

Carl

Been steadily collecting both 2012 (Son) and 2015 (Daughter) wines when the opportunity arises.

2012 wines that comes to mind that might last the distance:

5 x Cullen Wines Cabernet Sauvignon Vanya
2 x Cullen Wines Diana Madeline
1 x Henschke Cyril Henschke
7 x Henschke Shiraz Mount Edelstone
3 x Howard Park Cabernet Sauvignon Abercrombie
1 x Moss Wood Cabernet Sauvignon Moss Wood Vineyard
2 x Penfolds Grange
3 x Penfolds Shiraz RWT
8 x Penfolds Shiraz St. Henri
8 x Penfolds Bin 389
8 x Rockford Shiraz Basket Press
5 x St Hallett Shiraz Old Block
3 x Vasse Felix Heytesbury
5 x Woodlands Cabernet Sauvignon Thomas
2 x Wynns Coonawarra Estate Cabernet Sauvignon John Riddoch
3 x Yalumba Shiraz The Octavius

2015 wines that comes to mind that might last the distance:

6 x Clonakilla Shiraz - Viognier
6 x Clonakilla Shiraz O'Riada
6 x Grosset Riesling Polish Hill Clare Valley
6 x John Duval Wines Shiraz Entity
1 x Kaesler Shiraz The Bogan
3 x Penfolds Bin 389
2 x Penfolds Shiraz RWT
12 x Rockford Cabernet Sauvignon Rifle Range
3 x Shaw and Smith Shiraz
3 x Wendouree Shiraz Malbec

What, no Coleraine masterkiwi?? masteraussie I think you mean.

TiggerK wrote:What, no Coleraine masterkiwi?? masteraussie I think you mean.

I'm well sorted with 3x Magnums of 1998 Te Mata Coleraine Tigger

On release this was a great wine. Now it is a legend. Looks like one we will have on the twins 21st (next year - time flies), one on their 30th, one on the 40th? It feel like it's almost immortal at this stage especially ex magnum. I bought them on release day from the winery and they have been quietly sitting at 12oC ever since