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Had Pete Barry (from Jim Barry wines) for dinner last night and had some decent booze. Tried to coerce him to bring a 01 Armagh but he forgot!!

Gosset NV: is this better than Loius Roederer NV? Would run pretty close. Perfect balance of acidity and fruit. Bottle demolished by those involved in less than 15 minutes.

1979 Kaiser Stuhl Red Ribbon Grennock Shiraz: still yet to decline and amazing purity of fruit. This wine has intergrated perfectly over 25 years. This wine was released before my time but apparently it had a massive following in it's heyday.

2000 Rousseau Chambertin Grand Cru: very oaky, out of balance and not a patch on the Charmes-Chambertin 00 drunk early in the year. I think there is some great fruit there, just spoiled by too much oak. The fruit might shine thorugh, but I doubt it.

1991 Wynns Centenery Release Cabernet Shiraz: still quite a solid wine with plenty of fruit left in it.

Going to sneak this into a off-line down the track.

Sore head this morning, but worth it.

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Anthony

the Rousseau Chambertin 2000 is one of the wines of the vintage, if you have some more give it more time, will be a spectacular bottle.

The charmes is probably the lowest of the rousseau wines, which may explain why it is perhaps revealing itself early.

cheers
M

Thanks Michael,
have you tried the Rouseau Chambertin 00? I was shocked by the oak levels. It might come roud, but I'm a bit puzzled why you would want so much oak in there?

The Charmes-Chambertin 00 was a gorgeous wine, and I would prefer to drink anytime.

cheers
anthony

I agree that the Gosset is sensational. I would have it over the Louis Roederer (a lovely drop too) every time, but isn't is about $20 more expensive ?

Anthony wrote:Had Pete Barry (from Jim Barry wines) for dinner last night and had some decent booze. Tried to coerce him to bring a 01 Armagh but he forgot!!

Gosset NV: is this better than Loius Roederer NV? Would run pretty close. Perfect balance of acidity and fruit. Bottle demolished by those involved in less than 15 minutes.

1979 Kaiser Stuhl Red Ribbon Grennock Shiraz: still yet to decline and amazing purity of fruit. This wine has intergrated perfectly over 25 years. This wine was released before my time but apparently it had a massive following in it's heyday.

2000 Rousseau Chambertin Grand Cru: very oaky, out of balance and not a patch on the Charmes-Chambertin 00 drunk early in the year. I think there is some great fruit there, just spoiled by too much oak. The fruit might shine thorugh, but I doubt it.

1991 Wynns Centenery Release Cabernet Shiraz: still quite a solid wine with plenty of fruit left in it.

Going to sneak this into a off-line down the track.

Sore head this morning, but worth it.

cheers
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Good notes Anthony

00 AR Chamb - this is a Coates fave so surprised at oak levels - my experience of previous vintages is that they need lots of time as the fuit is buried deep.

91 Wynns - yep, top stuff, especially from magnum!

79 Kaiser - one of the very first wines I ever bought!

Gosset - yes, for me superior to the over-rated NV Roederer.

Thanks guys,
still have 3 bottles of AR Chamb left and will hold for another 5 years at least.

I have always been a big fan of Loius Roederer (and still am) but the Gosset is stunning.

cheers
anthony

Anthony wrote:Thanks Michael,
have you tried the Rouseau Chambertin 00? I was shocked by the oak levels. It might come roud, but I'm a bit puzzled why you would want so much oak in there?

The Charmes-Chambertin 00 was a gorgeous wine, and I would prefer to drink anytime.

cheers
anthony

on 3 separate occasions, it has plenty of oak and more than enough extract and density of fruit to cover it.
It's always tempting to try these young but you will start to see the best of it in about 5 years+
The 2000 chambertin was a particular success chez Rousseau, though his chambertin is usually one of the top 5 wines of any vintage.

Remember these are 20 - 30 year wines, and whilst the 2000 will be a relative early drinker, you will have to be patient. You'd be amazed at how well these things integrate over time.

I'm glad you enjoy the charmes, and I'm sure your bank manager appreciates your preference also!

bank manager or fiance? same thing really!!!!
thanks michael

anthony