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My lips are sealed.....

Can you flip the page to somewhere interesting ....

Rhone , Piedmont etc .

Your wish ..
But being France
Italy doesn't exist

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So what would you choose for best bang for buck, white & red???

Rousseau CdlR 95 looks good, as does the BdM C-C 01.

Or stretch the budget to the Roumier C-V 90 and Lafon M-P 90 !

I wonder how most french restaurants handle it when a customer says an expensive bottle of white burg is a bit prem-ox'ed. Customer is always right, or that's the way it's supposed to be?

TiggerK wrote:So what would you choose for best bang for buck, white & red???

Rousseau CdlR 95 looks good, as does the BdM C-C 01.

Or stretch the budget to the Roumier C-V 90 and Lafon M-P 90 !

I wonder how most french restaurants handle it when a customer says an expensive bottle of white burg is a bit prem-ox'ed. Customer is always right, or that's the way it's supposed to be?

Seriously I have never had premox in France

Trying Michel Niellon 2000
Crazy perfume
Pretty and long

michel wrote:Seriously I have never had premox in France

So do you have a personal theory why that is so? Luck? Good choices? Premox somehow tied to international transport/storage conditions?

Nice nominative choice with the Michel 2000, sounds good.

Remember the old saying
Burgundy & Rhone taste different once they cross the equator.
Must stuff up the closure!?

Transport issue if not in AC shipping container . Plenty don't

JamieBahrain wrote:Transport issue if not in AC shipping container . Plenty don't

Everyone tells you they use AC containers

michel wrote:Remember the old saying
Burgundy & Rhone taste different once they cross the equator.
Must stuff up the closure!?

Have had premoxed bottles in Europe...

Have a retailer here (Europe) as well that has a very good relationship with Bonneau du Martray and they've had some premoxed bottles from there...

Auberge du pot d'etain?

actually, nah, not enough chablis on there

The Auberge Pot D'Etain list has mostly been cleaned out of older vintages (but is heaven if you have a liking for relatively young vintages of Raveneau and Vincent Dauvissat chablis at very wallet friendly prices). The only red burgundy I could find with any bottle age that I wanted to drink was 2009 Fourrier Griotte Chambertin. We passed on the chablis and had a 2011 Coche-Dury Meursault Genevrieres which the patron was reluctant to hand over despite it being listed with a price (he has the practice, objectionable in my view, of listing some wines but refusing to sell them as they require further ageing in his opinion). As an aside, the Auberge Pot D'Etain is worth a visit if you like a good wine list, despite being somewhat out of the way geographically.

it's on the way if you happen to be travelling from Burgundy to the Aube.
he has two wine lists, always explain you love the place, you love Burgundy, and let rip a huge smile. Does the trick every time

Premox is 95 onwards or so. A 90 Lafon wouldn't be too shabby.

felixp21 wrote:it's on the way if you happen to be travelling from Burgundy to the Aube.
he has two wine lists, always explain you love the place, you love Burgundy, and let rip a huge smile. Does the trick every time

Our visit was October 2016. I was with French speaking friends and we had a good study of the list, from memory a book at least an inch thick, after arriving in the afternoon. There are plenty of wines, annoyingly including a number of vintages of Coche-Dury Meursault Perrieres, marked without a price but as "en viellissement" ie for further ageing. I am absolutely sure that what we were looking at was the long list.