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Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:39 am
by Rawshack
Some good, affordable Barossa Shiraz

For some reason I've avoided it like the plaque, no idea why, but at the weekend I had a rather nice little Shiraz by Haan wines, for around $15

Any other good entry level reds anyone can recommend?

Re: Recommend me...

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:07 am
by PaulG
I love and adore JJ Hahn '1914' Shiraz, which can be bought for a steal (imho) at the moment for about $34/bottle, so not quite entry level, but very good value (considering previous vintages went for approx $65 on release!), however my love of this wine is not shared by others (David and Ian felt it was far too American Oak-ey for their liking at the last offline. Despite this, I still love it!).

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Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:11 am
by via collins
Fairly stock standard choice is the Teusner Riebke.

Never seems to let anybody down, maybe a shade over $15...

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Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:17 am
by griff
I second Teusner as wines that I have tried. Riebke is good value. The Albert 2006 is an excellent wine but over $50. Another wine that was very impressive was the Peter Lehmann Eight Songs 2004 at over $30.

cheers

Carl

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Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:23 am
by Red Bigot
PaulG wrote:I love and adore JJ Hahn '1914' Shiraz, which can be bought for a steal (imho) at the moment for about $34/bottle, so not quite entry level, but very good value (considering previous vintages went for approx $65 on release!), however my love of this wine is not shared by others (David and Ian felt it was far too American Oak-ey for their liking at the last offline. Despite this, I still love it!).

The 2006 vintage of the JJ Hahn 1914 can be had for $25pb with a bonus Tatachilla Foundation Shiraz with a 6-pack. I believe the JJ Hahn range may be discontinued when current bottlings are sold.

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Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:56 am
by Roscoe
Thorn Clark Sandpiper Shiraz 2008
Best value Barossa shiraz I have had in recent times. Should be obtainable <15, possibly even around 12. An excellent starting point IMO. 2007 was also a very handy wine.

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Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:04 pm
by Sharkey
Jacob's Creek Reserve from better vintages can be a good example for about $10

Likewise Richmond Grove Barossa Vineyards for about $15

Torbreck Woodcutters is one of my favourites - probably just over $15

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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:22 am
by daz
I'm another Teusner Riebke advocate. St Hallett Faith is a good reliable Barossa Shiraz too though a rung below the Riebke. I've also tried St Hallett's Broken Plough Single Vineyard Shiraz (usually CD only? from TWS) that's a soft, well-fruited wine though a bit simple. It's some time since I had a Thorn-Clarke Sandpiper shiraz but it was good value last time I did. Their Shotfire Ridge can be found for <$20 - it's a definite step up from the Sandpiper. Tin Shed (Eden Valley) Melting Pot Shiraz has some similarities to Barossa Shiraz and can be found for under $20, similarly Longhop Shiraz (Mt Lofty Ranges) for about $15. Peter Lehmann Shiraz can be good depending on vintage, is perhaps comparable to the St Hallett Faith in terms of qpr. I think Jacobs Creek Reserve is a multi-regional shiraz blend but it can be good. Kaesler Stonehorse Shiraz can be found for around $20-$25, is perhaps eqvivalent in quality to the Riebke but a little more expensive. Viking Wines' Grand Barossa Shiraz is good when found for about $20.

Enjoy your investigation of affordable Barossa Shiraz!

Cheers

daz

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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:35 pm
by Michael McNally
Agree about the Longhop. Had the 2007 and 2008 recently and excellent gear.

If looking further afield (ie all the way to Clare) the 2008 Kirrihill Shiraz is brilliant and can be found for 10 or 11 dollars. I wrote a note the other night so I'll post it when I get home from work.

Cheers

Michael

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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:01 pm
by milky
I love Barossa Shiraz & blends! Especially good value ones.

Similarly, I'd recommend Teusner "The Riebke", Thorn-Clarke Shortfire Ridge, Longhop, and Kaesler Stonehorse.

In addition, I have enjoyed: Arete (not easy to find), Charles Cimicky "Trump", Charles Melton "Father-in-law", Grant Burge "Miamba", Langmeil Valley Floor, Torzi Matthews' "Schist Rock", Trevor Jones "Boots", Two Hands "Angel's Share", Two Hands "Gnarly Dudes". Some are less "boutique" than others, but all under $30 ea.

There's still so much good ones to try... :D

Re: Recommend me...

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:49 pm
by Rawshack
Folks

Thanks to everyone who has replied, I've got some great suggestions and I'm looking forward to a weekends shopping (and drinking)

I'll try and keep you updated how I go

Rawshack

Re: Recommend me...

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:53 pm
by via collins
Is the Longhop a Barossa drop? I always thought it Adelaide Hills - either way, 07 and 08 are both great, and cheap as chips.

Enjoyed a 08 Langmeil Valley Floor last week, and found it beautifully balanced - superb dark colour too.

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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:06 pm
by griff
via collins wrote:Is the Longhop a Barossa drop? I always thought it Adelaide Hills - either way, 07 and 08 are both great, and cheap as chips.


Adelaide Plains I believe. Not sure where that is though :)

cheers

Carl

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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:35 pm
by Red Bigot
griff wrote:
via collins wrote:Is the Longhop a Barossa drop? I always thought it Adelaide Hills - either way, 07 and 08 are both great, and cheap as chips.


Adelaide Plains I believe. Not sure where that is though :)

cheers

Carl

Adelaide Plains is north of Adelaide b/n Adelaide and the Barossa and west of the main highway to Barossa as you go North. Gradually being overtaken by housing. Used to be the home base of Primo Estate before they opened the new edifice in McLaren Vale.

Re: Recommend me...

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:48 pm
by Muscat Mike
I love some of the already recommended wines. For about $15 I reckon Winter Creek is very hard to beat.
Mike.

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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:04 pm
by griff
Red Bigot wrote:
griff wrote:
via collins wrote:Is the Longhop a Barossa drop? I always thought it Adelaide Hills - either way, 07 and 08 are both great, and cheap as chips.


Adelaide Plains I believe. Not sure where that is though :)

cheers

Carl

Adelaide Plains is north of Adelaide b/n Adelaide and the Barossa and west of the main highway to Barossa as you go North. Gradually being overtaken by housing. Used to be the home base of Primo Estate before they opened the new edifice in McLaren Vale.


Ah, you picked up on the tongue in cheek then ;) I suppose Sydney hasn't done much better. Look at Rooty Hill :roll:

As for Perth, I wonder how the Swan Valley will last...

cheers

Carl

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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:27 am
by Waiters Friend
How about the Binder Shiraz? The best entry level Barossa shiraz I've seen (although the Teusner Riebke is close, but different - less oak)

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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:50 am
by Craig(NZ)
you got to love the 'recession'. i havent had to 'lower myself' to drinking cheap aussie shiraz for months and months...all the yummy cheap 07 Hawkes Bay reds about!!

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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:29 pm
by Chad
Mike Press Adelaide Hills Shiraz- any vintage because this wine continues to punch well above it's $10-12/bottle price tag.
Wirra Wirra Church Block- always a good honest shiraz for under $20/bottle
Yalumba Y-Series SV- fantastic when you can puck it up for $9/bottle
Yering Station SV- when it's under $20/bottle I always buy this wine and never get dissapointed
Seppelt Chalambar Bendigo Grampians Shiraz- does need some time in the cellar but is sometimes on special for under $20/bottle. Great value. Had a 1992 a few months ago with a mate & I could have sworn it was only a couple of years old.
Mount Langi Ghiran Billi Billi Shiraz- Aussie shiraz doesn't come much better for sub $15/bottle
Hardy's Oomoo Shiraz- Again sub $15/bottle bargain
Teusner Riebke- Year in year out an absolute cracker wine for less than $20

Chad

Re: Recommend me...

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:39 pm
by Rawshack
Chad wrote:Mike Press Adelaide Hills Shiraz- any vintage because this wine continues to punch well above it's $10-12/bottle price tag.
Wirra Wirra Church Block- always a good honest shiraz for under $20/bottle
Yalumba Y-Series SV- fantastic when you can puck it up for $9/bottle
Yering Station SV- when it's under $20/bottle I always buy this wine and never get dissapointed
Seppelt Chalambar Bendigo Grampians Shiraz- does need some time in the cellar but is sometimes on special for under $20/bottle. Great value. Had a 1992 a few months ago with a mate & I could have sworn it was only a couple of years old.
Mount Langi Ghiran Billi Billi Shiraz- Aussie shiraz doesn't come much better for sub $15/bottle
Hardy's Oomoo Shiraz- Again sub $15/bottle bargain
Teusner Riebke- Year in year out an absolute cracker wine for less than $20

Chad


Thanks Chad

Some good suggestions there but I was looking specifically for Barossa reds as it's an area that I've neglected for some time (Charlie Melton notwithstanding)

Re: Recommend me...

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:44 am
by daz
via collins wrote:Is the Longhop a Barossa drop? I always thought it Adelaide Hills - either way, 07 and 08 are both great, and cheap as chips.

Enjoyed a 08 Langmeil Valley Floor last week, and found it beautifully balanced - superb dark colour too.


Longhop is from Tim Freeland's and Domenic Torzi's Old Plains range that has been made from fruit sourced from the Adelaide Plains though the current 2008
vintage is labelled Mt Lofty Ranges. Bought a bottle of Valley Floor for a workmate's 40th recently, not sure now which vintage - he's a big fan of the Freedom but hey, $100 wines I rarely buy even for myself - but suspect it may have been a 2007.

Cheers

daz