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Where was the Sunday thread? Christmas week drinks 2009
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:06 am
by griff
So it is Christmas week. I hope you have managed to buy all your pressies and can now bunker down this week with a decent bottle of christmas cheer or three

Had a half bottle of
1987 Warres Quinta da Cavadinha last night at Glass. Bar a poor bottle earlier this year this really is a cracking single quinta. Started off quite shy with crystallised violets when you went looking but opened over a couple of hours with cocoa, liquorice, bay leaves. savoury plum and sandalwood all taking their turn to emerge and join the chorus. Love wine that changes in the glass and wish I had a chance to decant this longer. Excellent wine.
Also a
2007 Selbach-Oster Bernkasteler Badstube Riesling Kabinett beforehand that really is in a lovely place at the moment with taut balance of acid and fruit with sugar playing a support role. I think this the riesling to drink when waiting for your others to develop. Very Good wine.
cheers
Carl
Re: Where was the Sunday thread? Christmas week drinks 2009
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:46 pm
by Bick
This weekend, I had an Aurum Riesling 2007, from Central Otago - not at all bad, in a dry style; nice sour limes and pink grapefruit; decent richness.
Re: Where was the Sunday thread? Christmas week drinks 2009
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:10 pm
by monghead
Thanks for kicking off Carl,
2005 Tyrell's Steven Semillon- Tight, acidic, extreme minerality. Hard work at present without food, but should get better. Good.
Monghead.
Re: Where was the Sunday thread? Christmas week drinks 2009
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:49 pm
by Wayno
Tim Knappstein Riposte 'Traminer 2008 - started quite heavy-duty, musky and floral but with time became more akin to a big brassy SB. Quite good.
Re: Where was the Sunday thread? Christmas week drinks 2009
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:54 pm
by orpheus
Saltram Mamre Brook Shiraz 2006 - Did not think much of this at all. 15.5% and showing it, rough, alcoholic, and really not that appealing. Drank it anyway.
Re: Where was the Sunday thread? Christmas week drinks 2009
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:58 pm
by griff
orpheus wrote:Saltram Mamre Brook Shiraz 2006 - Did not think much of this at all. 15.5% and showing it, rough, alcoholic, and really not that appealing. Drank it anyway.
Interesting. When did Nigel Dolan leave? It was around this time wasn't it?
cheers
Carl
Re: Where was the Sunday thread? Christmas week drinks 2009
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:49 am
by Mike Hawkins
1994 Penfolds Bin 28 - a vintage where Penfolds wines were far better than most of their competitors IMO. This wine is in a good place right now. Lots of secondary characteristics, good length, not too sweet or alcoholic. No rush to drink though.
2001 Howard Park Cabernet - a decent enough wine, but not as good as I had hoped given the way a certain critic waxed poetic over it at release.
2002 Veuve Clicquot - this bottle seemed as though the dosage was a bit heavy handed
2004 (disg) Rockford Black Shiraz - a crowd pleaser with its upfront sweetness and earthy, long finish.
Re: Where was the Sunday thread? Christmas week drinks 2009
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:30 am
by Bick
griff wrote:orpheus wrote:Saltram Mamre Brook Shiraz 2006 - Did not think much of this at all. 15.5% and showing it, rough, alcoholic, and really not that appealing. Drank it anyway.
Interesting. When did Nigel Dolan leave? It was around this time wasn't it?
cheers
Carl
Dolan made the 06, he left after that. I really like Mamre Brook, for a wine of its style. The 06 (like 04, 05) is a touch warming, but sometimes that hits the spot. I think it carries the alc rather well, but its a personal taste thing of course.
Re: Where was the Sunday thread? Christmas week drinks 2009
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:05 pm
by griff
Bick wrote:Dolan made the 06, he left after that. I really like Mamre Brook, for a wine of its style. The 06 (like 04, 05) is a touch warming, but sometimes that hits the spot. I think it carries the alc rather well, but its a personal taste thing of course.
Thanks Bick. I liked the shiraz in 04. Haven't tried the 06.
cheers
Carl
Re: Where was the Sunday thread? Christmas week drinks 2009
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:13 am
by monghead
2009 Dandelions Eden Valley Riesling- Great citrus flavours with scents of lime and talc. Very Good.
Re: Where was the Sunday thread? Christmas week drinks 2009
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:36 pm
by orpheus
griff wrote:Bick wrote:Dolan made the 06, he left after that. I really like Mamre Brook, for a wine of its style. The 06 (like 04, 05) is a touch warming, but sometimes that hits the spot. I think it carries the alc rather well, but its a personal taste thing of course.
Thanks Bick. I liked the shiraz in 04. Haven't tried the 06.
cheers
Carl
I seem to be outnumbered on this one.
Perhaps it is a cool weather wine, and is better when room temperature is low. Certainly didn't appeal to me.
Re: Where was the Sunday thread? Christmas week drinks 2009
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:38 pm
by orpheus
Bick wrote:griff wrote:orpheus wrote:Saltram Mamre Brook Shiraz 2006 - Did not think much of this at all. 15.5% and showing it, rough, alcoholic, and really not that appealing. Drank it anyway.
Interesting. When did Nigel Dolan leave? It was around this time wasn't it?
cheers
Carl
Dolan made the 06, he left after that. I really like Mamre Brook, for a wine of its style. The 06 (like 04, 05) is a touch warming, but sometimes that hits the spot. I think it carries the alc rather well, but its a personal taste thing of course.
Would you describe the 06 as very similar to the 04 and 05? I have tasted neither.
Re: Where was the Sunday thread? Christmas week drinks 2009
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:54 pm
by griff
orpheus wrote:griff wrote:Bick wrote:Dolan made the 06, he left after that. I really like Mamre Brook, for a wine of its style. The 06 (like 04, 05) is a touch warming, but sometimes that hits the spot. I think it carries the alc rather well, but its a personal taste thing of course.
Thanks Bick. I liked the shiraz in 04. Haven't tried the 06.
cheers
Carl
I seem to be outnumbered on this one.
Perhaps it is a cool weather wine, and is better when room temperature is low. Certainly didn't appeal to me.
I haven't tried so who knows? I still can't work out what wines I will like before I taste them. Not even liking a prior vintage helps. I am too quixotic

cheers
Carl
Re: Where was the Sunday thread? Christmas week drinks 2009
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 1:40 pm
by Scanlon
Seppelt 'Aerin's Vineyard' Mornington Pinot Grigio 2008
A truly unforgettable wine for all the wrong reasons. The wine list omitted the 'seppelt' from the front of the name, so that was interesting when I googled it online.
It was bitter, a bizarre texture and mouthfeel, and generally awful. Didn't seem to be faulty, it was just shite. Undrinkable. I took it back to the bar and told them ' look i'm not saying there's technically anything wrong with it, it's just awful".
*blerch*
Avoid at all costs.
Re: Where was the Sunday thread? Christmas week drinks 2009
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 1:55 pm
by n4sir
Bick wrote:griff wrote:orpheus wrote:Saltram Mamre Brook Shiraz 2006 - Did not think much of this at all. 15.5% and showing it, rough, alcoholic, and really not that appealing. Drank it anyway.
Interesting. When did Nigel Dolan leave? It was around this time wasn't it?
cheers
Carl
Dolan made the 06, he left after that. I really like Mamre Brook, for a wine of its style. The 06 (like 04, 05) is a touch warming, but sometimes that hits the spot. I think it carries the alc rather well, but its a personal taste thing of course.
Nigel Dolan left at the very end of 2007. For the 08 vintage they were scrambling to get a winemaker, and I'm sure I heard that Caroline Dunn was roped in from Wolf Blass at the last second - I haven't heard anything since about who the chief winemaker is...
FWIW I thought the 2006 Mamre Brook was short and hot compared to the previous two vintages, so the above impressions don't really surprise me (especially it the room temperature is on the warm/hot side).
Cheers,
Ian
Re: Where was the Sunday thread? Christmas week drinks 2009
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:33 pm
by orpheus
[/quote]
Nigel Dolan left at the very end of 2007. For the 08 vintage they were scrambling to get a winemaker, and I'm sure I heard that Caroline Dunn was roped in from Wolf Blass at the last second - I haven't heard anything since about who the chief winemaker is...
FWIW I thought the 2006 Mamre Brook was short and hot compared to the previous two vintages, so the above impressions don't really surprise me (especially it the room temperature is on the warm/hot side).
Cheers,
Ian[/quote]
That's good to know.