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2004 Hardy's "Oomoo" Clare Valley Sparkling Shiraz. Cork. 14%. $17.

Wow. For a sub-twenty dollar sparkling shiraz this is hard to beat. My tasting note reads:

Hints of purple at the edge of a dark red core. Very fine bead - continuous. Soft black plum fruit with some nice aniseed and five spice - palate is very gentle. Excellent length. Very, Very Good.

To which I added about an hour later:

Very, very yummy fruit. Complex soft plum, berry, mulberry fruit. Aniseed still there, but takes a back seat to surprisingly powerful, but still soft, fruit. Bead still there and still fine. Excellent wine (more so when you look at the price).

I went back today and bought some more. I don't know that I will try to cellar them, but am happy having six to have over the next 12-24 months.

Stock up!

Michael

PS Just realised as I finished this post that Hardy's is a Constellation brand (I think) so we are supposed to be boycotting? I would be genuinely torn, but I think the price is a disservice to Hardy's!!

I'm not into FRS but would suggest that if you like the wine just continue to enjoy it. The majority of punters who also enjoy it wouldn't have a clue what or who is Constellation Brands, let alone that a relatively very few wine consumers (buffs?) have decided to boycott the companys products or could care a jot.

daz

Yes it is. Refrained from buying this and am torn myself To help I remember this is 100% Clare fruit. Wonder which of the vineyards they sold it comes from and even whether it was made at Leasingham which they closed. It is a good wine.

cheers

Carl

Daryl Douglas wrote:I'm not into FRS but would suggest that if you like the wine just continue to enjoy it. The majority of punters who also enjoy it wouldn't have a clue what or who is Constellation Brands, let alone that a relatively very few wine consumers (buffs?) have decided to boycott the companys products or could care a jot.

daz

Beaytifully written Darryl.

Thanks

Michael

I'm not sure us buying and the general public buying Constellation wine is the same thing.

Actus non facit reum nisi mens sit rea.


cheers

Carl

griff wrote:I'm not sure us buying and the general public buying Constellation wine is the same thing.

Actus non facit reum nisi mens sit rea.


cheers

Carl

We are the general public Can't see the point in denying oneself vinous pleasure simply because some beancounters cocked up! Sorry, I
never learned latin, didn't go to a Catholic school, but remember when the priests used it in church.

Cheers Carl,

daz

Daryl Douglas wrote:

griff wrote:I'm not sure us buying and the general public buying Constellation wine is the same thing.

Actus non facit reum nisi mens sit rea.


cheers

Carl

We are the general public Can't see the point in denying oneself vinous pleasure simply because some beancounters cocked up! Sorry, I
never learned latin, didn't go to a Catholic school, but remember when the priests used it in church.

Cheers Carl,

daz

An act does not make a person guilty unless the person's mind is guilty.

We who read the forum know what the general public do not. It is up to individuals to decide their own actions. I'm not sitting in judgement on forum members but I certainly don't think that the general public that don't know the situation can make an informed choice on the matter and as such are NOT in the same position as us.

Disclosure: I have bought 2005 Chateau Reynella Shiraz cleanskins. I am not kidding myself and even at $15 money is being generated. Friend brought them around in a Tim Adams box and considering who bought some of the Leasingham vineyards I wonder if it is a sign

And a public school boy here

griff wrote:

Daryl Douglas wrote:

griff wrote:I'm not sure us buying and the general public buying Constellation wine is the same thing.

Actus non facit reum nisi mens sit rea.


cheers

Carl

We are the general public Can't see the point in denying oneself vinous pleasure simply because some beancounters cocked up! Sorry, I
never learned latin, didn't go to a Catholic school, but remember when the priests used it in church.

Cheers Carl,

daz

An act does not make a person guilty unless the person's mind is guilty.

We who read the forum know what the general public do not. It is up to individuals to decide their own actions. I'm not sitting in judgement on forum members but I certainly don't think that the general public that don't know the situation can make an informed choice on the matter and as such are NOT in the same position as us.

Disclosure: I have bought 2005 Chateau Reynella Shiraz cleanskins. I am not kidding myself and even at $15 money is being generated. Friend brought them around in a Tim Adams box and considering who bought some of the Leasingham vineyards I wonder if it is a sign

And a public school boy here

I have absolutely no guilt on buying up the cleanskins - they were being sold as cheap as under $10/bottle at some places, which makes me think they've been dumped at pretty close to cost. I don't think there's much margin (if any) being passed on to Constellation...

Similarly any remaining (ie older) stocks of the brands that have been abandoned by Constellation I have no problem buying to a point - at the moment I'm trying to put together a Reynell/Chateau Reynella Cabernet vertical for later on in the year to coincide with the death of the Stony Hill vineyard.

The major boycott will be the remaining brands they're trying to pump, from the bastardised/gutted Leasingham, Houghtons, Hardys including Oomoo, Banrock, etc. In reality (like Brian said in the other thread) it's not going to affect my purchase behaviour too much at the top end - I've never been a big fan of the Eileen/Thomas Hardy labels, and Leasingham/Tintara have been ridiculously overpriced in recent years. On the other hand it may very well affect what I choose from what's available at a restaurant/pub though (which would probably be at the lower end).

Cheers,
Ian

n4sir wrote:I have absolutely no guilt on buying up the cleanskins - they were being sold as cheap as under $10/bottle at some places, which makes me think they've been dumped at pretty close to cost. I don't think there's much margin (if any) being passed on to Constellation...

Similarly any remaining (ie older) stocks of the brands that have been abandoned by Constellation I have no problem buying to a point - at the moment I'm trying to put together a Reynell/Chateau Reynella Cabernet vertical for later on in the year to coincide with the death of the Stony Hill vineyard.

The major boycott will be the remaining brands they're trying to pump, from the bastardised/gutted Leasingham, Houghtons, Hardys including Oomoo, Banrock, etc. In reality (like Brian said in the other thread) it's not going to affect my purchase behaviour too much at the top end - I've never been a big fan of the Eileen/Thomas Hardy labels, and Leasingham/Tintara have been ridiculously overpriced in recent years. On the other hand it may very well affect what I choose from what's available at a restaurant/pub though (which would probably be at the lower end).

Cheers,
Ian

I still feel a little guilty as although a profit isn't being made perhaps a loss isn't being incurred either. Wasn't enough to stop me in the end however.

cheers

Carl

Michael McNally wrote:2004 Hardy's "Oomoo" Clare Valley Sparkling Shiraz. Cork. 14%. $17.

Wow. For a sub-twenty dollar sparkling shiraz this is hard to beat. My tasting note reads:

Hints of purple at the edge of a dark red core. Very fine bead - continuous. Soft black plum fruit with some nice aniseed and five spice - palate is very gentle. Excellent length. Very, Very Good.

To which I added about an hour later:

Very, very yummy fruit. Complex soft plum, berry, mulberry fruit. Aniseed still there, but takes a back seat to surprisingly powerful, but still soft, fruit. Bead still there and still fine. Excellent wine (more so when you look at the price).

I went back today and bought some more. I don't know that I will try to cellar them, but am happy having six to have over the next 12-24 months.

Stock up!

Michael

PS Just realised as I finished this post that Hardy's is a Constellation brand (I think) so we are supposed to be boycotting? I would be genuinely torn, but I think the price is a disservice to Hardy's!!

Michael

Where do I obtain this equisite drop?

Keen Ronaldo

Maroon&Blue wrote:

Michael McNally wrote:2004 Hardy's "Oomoo" Clare Valley Sparkling Shiraz. Cork. 14%. $17.

Wow. For a sub-twenty dollar sparkling shiraz this is hard to beat. My tasting note reads:

Hints of purple at the edge of a dark red core. Very fine bead - continuous. Soft black plum fruit with some nice aniseed and five spice - palate is very gentle. Excellent length. Very, Very Good.

To which I added about an hour later:

Very, very yummy fruit. Complex soft plum, berry, mulberry fruit. Aniseed still there, but takes a back seat to surprisingly powerful, but still soft, fruit. Bead still there and still fine. Excellent wine (more so when you look at the price).

I went back today and bought some more. I don't know that I will try to cellar them, but am happy having six to have over the next 12-24 months.

Stock up!

Michael

PS Just realised as I finished this post that Hardy's is a Constellation brand (I think) so we are supposed to be boycotting? I would be genuinely torn, but I think the price is a disservice to Hardy's!!

Michael

Where do I obtain this equisite drop?

Keen Ronaldo

Visit your local Irish retailer for one.

I would have thought this was widely stocked, but had a look yesterday at two chain outlets and not to be seen.

Probably an optional rather than a core product. Ask your retailer to get it in for you.