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Re: Langton's Whinge
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:31 am
by cleanskinlover
asajoseph wrote:Just been looking back through my Langtons purchases - it's a real mixed-bag. There's a few things where I've got a bit carried away & overbid on the odd bottle that I really want, but there's a few good bargains in there as well - a few halves of 2014 Doisy Daene, a magnum of Coppermine Road, a bottle of 2014 Clerc Milon at half the price I see it listed for elsewhere...
Not intending to brag about any of these - just mention that the bargains are out there if you have the patience & dedication to trawl through the site.
However... The volume that passes through the site is really astonishing, compared to similar sites that I used to use in the UK (though the secondary market there works very differently).
and if you don't want to trawl through the list you can give them a couple of wines in the years you are looking for and they will alert you when they are coming up in auction.
Re: Langton's Whinge
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:50 am
by Hacker
cleanskinlover wrote:
and if you don't want to trawl through the list you can give them a couple of wines in the years you are looking for and they will alert you when they are coming up in auction.
Is this an automated process you can set up on their website or do you do it thru a Langtons broker?
Re: Langton's Whinge
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:06 pm
by cleanskinlover
Hacker wrote:cleanskinlover wrote:
and if you don't want to trawl through the list you can give them a couple of wines in the years you are looking for and they will alert you when they are coming up in auction.
Is this an automated process you can set up on their website or do you do it thru a Langtons broker?
That is through the broker!
Re: Langton's Whinge
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:31 pm
by Bobthebuilder
Browse the site for more than 2 mins and the broker will find you, no need too look
That bloody pop up Shiits me
Re: Langton's Whinge
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:43 pm
by shirazphile
Wow clearly times have changed at Langton's for vendors. My only interaction with Langton's as a vendor was very poor. Supposedly my wine sold, and after some period of non-payment I was told the winning bidder returned the unopened bottles because they claimed the 1-2 bottles consumed were not up to scratch (which I seriously doubted at the time). Mind you they did not bother to tell me this until I queried why I had not been paid.
Let's just say with Langton's once bitten twice shy.
Re: Langton's Whinge
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:31 pm
by Hacker
I just want to test the water with you guys. Amongst other wines, I sent some Tyrrells Vat 47 to be auctioned off. Three of these bottles were broken in transit whilst in Langton's care. They offered to pay me the low estimation of $35 pb. That was fine, not sheep stations, but now I also see they have also charged me my vendors commission. Now that has riled me up. Once again, not much outright money, but I believe they really just should have paid me the low estimate and been done with it. Thoughts?
Re: Langton's Whinge
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:23 pm
by Polymer
I think charging you the vendors commission is right...based on the fact that you would have paid that if it had gone to auction...so essentially these bottles sold for the low estimate as if it went to auction.
The amount it would have sold for at auction is the dispute...you owe the commission having used their service...
Re: Langton's Whinge
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:31 pm
by cuttlefish
Technically you haven’t used their service for the ones they broke.
Re: Langton's Whinge
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:22 pm
by Hunter
Something positive i have noticed from the selling side. Funds have been deposited into my acount within 4 days. It use to take up to a month.
Re: Langton's Whinge
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:44 pm
by Polymer
cuttlefish wrote:Technically you haven’t used their service for the ones they broke.
Or you have..in an accelerated manner.
If you are happy to get the low estimate at auction (which you most likely are) then you should be happy w/ paying the commission.
Your argument should be that the low estimate price isn't enough and you can provide data to the contrary..eg. What it last sold for or something that is in the middle estimate.
Re: Langton's Whinge
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:21 pm
by cuttlefish
Hunter wrote:Something positive i have noticed from the selling side. Funds have been deposited into my acount within 4 days. It use to take up to a month.
I’ve been getting mine really quickly, too. Much faster than, say, 18 months ago.
Re: Langton's Whinge
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:00 pm
by Mike Hawkins
Polymer wrote:cuttlefish wrote:Technically you haven’t used their service for the ones they broke.
Or you have..in an accelerated manner.
If you are happy to get the low estimate at auction (which you most likely are) then you should be happy w/ paying the commission.
Your argument should be that the low estimate price isn't enough and you can provide data to the contrary..eg. What it last sold for or something that is in the middle estimate.
What it last sold for....
Re: Langton's Whinge
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:58 pm
by Polymer
Yeap...that's what I would probably argue is the most current reflection of what it would have went for had it made it to auction. But even with that I'd expect to pay commission as well....
Re: Langton's Whinge
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:23 pm
by Hacker
Ok I’ll get back in my box and chill out. It’s only peanuts anyway. Overall Langtons have done a good job with my wine.
Re: Langton's Whinge
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:14 pm
by Bobthebuilder
What was the vintage?
Re: Langton's Whinge
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:24 pm
by Hacker
2014
Re: Langton's Whinge
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:34 pm
by Bobthebuilder
Hmmm
I would be surprised to see that go for less than 40 at auction
You would pay around 60 at retail, 75 for the 15 at the winery
Re: Langton's Whinge
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:33 pm
by Polymer
Well according to the site..
2014 Tyrrells Vat 47. Estimated Range is: 35-45 and last went for 32.
Low estimate is probably pretty fair.
Re: Langton's Whinge
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:21 am
by Hacker
Yeah that was my Wine, some at $32 and also $35. Glad I didn’t ask Donald Trump, he would have slammed a 20% tariff on Langtons!
Let’s move on.
Re: Langton's Whinge
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:01 am
by Rossco
Is anyone having delivery issues with them lately?
Been waiting nearly 2 weeks for one order to arrive. According to the site it's still 'in processing'.
Re: Langton's Whinge
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:37 am
by Rocky
Rossco wrote:Is anyone having delivery issues with them lately?
Been waiting nearly 2 weeks for one order to arrive. According to the site it's still 'in processing'.
Yes, always having to wait 2+ weeks. Of all companies I buy wine off, Langston’s are the slowest wrt delivery
Re: Langton's Whinge
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:57 am
by Rossco
Rocky wrote:Rossco wrote:Is anyone having delivery issues with them lately?
Been waiting nearly 2 weeks for one order to arrive. According to the site it's still 'in processing'.
Yes, always having to wait 2+ weeks. Of all companies I buy wine off, Langston’s are the slowest wrt delivery
Usually I have been getting min in about 5 working days...we are now at 10 working/business days and nothing.
PLUS I have another delivery that is now at 5 working days and still no notifications.
I have actually held off buying anything from them for now till they pick their game up.
Re: Langton's Whinge
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 2:53 pm
by asajoseph
That's nothing - I used to deal with brokers in the UK who would quote 3 months, and almost certainly fail to deliver unless chased, at least weekly, for 4-5.
They had the biggest lists, and the best prices, but the hassle just wasn't worth it.
Re: Langton's Whinge
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:49 pm
by grhm1961
I've been buying quite a bit off them lately and have had no problems with delivery: yes, it does vary between 1 - 2 weeks, but always arrives in good condition; extremely well-packed, etc. I am based in Sydney, though; perhaps that makes a difference, although I don't see why it should.
Re: Langton's Whinge
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:02 pm
by Polymer
I will say, it was a good idea for them to allow for pickup at Dans...even though it costs the same (and probably saves them money), I think the cost is fair and the convenience, for those that need it, is good....